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Ramana Maharshi describes the way to know God as formless
« on: June 29, 2010, 01:12:43 PM »
Sri Arunachala Ashtakam (Eight verses in praise of Arunachala)Verse 3:

When I approach thinking of You (the Supreme Reality) as a form, You stand as a Hill on earth. If one thinks of (or meditates upon) Your form (Your real nature) as formless, one is like someone who wanders about the world in order to see the sky. Therefore, instead of trying to meditate upon You thus), when without thinking one,thinks of Your (Real) form (the existence-consciousness ‘I am’) (one’s) form (or separate individuaity) will cease to exist like a sugar-form placed in the ocean. When I know myself, what else is my form (but you)? You, who were existing as the great Aruna Hill, (alone) are (and I, the separate individual, am not).

Note : “If oneself is a form (the body), the world and God will also be likewise …….”, says Sri Bhagavan in verse 4 of Ulladu Narpadu. That is, so long as we feel the name and form of a body to be 'I', we cannot know God as anything but a name and form. Since meditation can be done only by the mind, and since the mind is that which feels I am the form of this body’, meditation can be done only upon a form. Since all thoughts are nothing but forms, even the thought that God is formless is itself a form. Therefore it is impossible for the mind to do formless meditation or Nirguna-dhyana. That is why Sri Bhagavan says in the second line of this verse, if one thinks of (or meditates upon) your form as formless, one is like someone who wanders about the world in order to see the sky”.

How then is one to know God as formless, as He really is? Only if we remain without thought - without even the first thought ‘I am this body, I am so-and-so’, can we realize God as formless. How to remain thus without even the first thought ‘I’? The only way is to attend to Self, because when the attention is withdrawn from all second and third person objects and fixed on the mere feeling 'I',no thought can rise. Such self-attention is what is denoted here by the words, "when without thinking one thinks of Your (Real) Form (the existence-consciousness 'I am')". When, by thus attending to 'I', one remains without thought, the form of the mind (the feeling 'I am this body') will cease to exist, and the formless reality of God or Arunachala will then be experienced as it is.

Source: Sri Arunachala Stuti Panchakam Meaning By Sri Sadhu Om Translation By Michael James

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Re: Ramana Maharshi describes the way to know God as formless
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 02:37:02 PM »

Muruganar says in Guru Vachaka Kovai Verse 1058:

Because of the excellence of Swarupam, he oneness in which the seer
himself becomes the seeing, one's real nature is the most exalted.
The 'I'-nature, the mauna-light in which the ego, the seer 'I', has completely died, is the Self, consciousness, the supreme.

Bhagavan Ramana says in Who am I?:

You are the Self.  You exist always.  Nothing more can be predicated to the Self than that it exists.  Seeing God or the Self is only being the Self or yourSelf. Seeing is being.

Day by Day entry dated 17th October 1946 is as under:-

Question:  When a man realizes the Self, what will he see?

Bhagavan:  There is no seeing.  Seeing is only being. The state
of Self-realization, as we call it, is not attaining something new or reaching some goal which is far away, but simply being that which you always are and which you always have been.  All that is needed is that you give up your realization of the not-true as true.  All of us are realizing, i.e. regarding as real, that which is not real.  We have only to give up this practice on our part.  Then we shall realize the Self as the Self, or in other words, 'Be the Self.'  At one stage one would laugh at oneself that one tried to discover the Self which is so self-evident.  So, what can we say to this question?

That stage transcends the seer and the seen.  There is no seer to see anything and the Self alone remains.

Arunachala Siva.