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Ramana Maharshi about young prodigies and genius people
« on: April 01, 2010, 01:49:02 PM »
Talk 384.

A young prodigy was mentioned. Sri Bhagavan remarked that latent impressions of previous births (purva janma samskara) were strong in him.

D.: How does it manifest as the ability to cite well-known saints? Is it vasana in the form of a seed only?

M.: Yes. Predisposition (samskara) is acquired knowledge and kept in stock. It manifests under favourable circumstances. One with strong samskara understands the thing when presented to him much quicker than another with no samskara or weak samskara.

D.: Does it hold good with inventors also?

M.: “There is nothing new under the sun.” What we call inventions or discoveries are merely rediscoveries by competent men with strong samskara in the directions under consideration.

D.: Is it so with Newton, Einstein, etc.?

M.: Yes. Certainly. But the samskaras, however strong, will not manifest unless in a calm and still mind. It is within the experience of everyone that his attempts to rake up his memory fail, whereas something flashes in the mind when he is calm and quiet. Mental quiet is necessary even for remembrance of forgotten things.

The so-called genius is one who worked hard in his past births and acquired knowledge and kept it in store as samskaras. He now concentrates his mind until it merges in the subject. In that stillness the submerged ideas flash out. That requires favourable conditions also.

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Re: Ramana Maharshi about young prodigies and genius people
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2010, 02:51:24 PM »
One young boy came to the Hall and for about an hour speaking
about Upanishads and Brahmasutra and other scriptures.  After
about one hour, he remained and silent, shedding tears.  He then told Bhagavan:

"Swami, I have not yet realized."

The outpour of torrential speech in front of Bhagavan was due
to purva samskara.  It has now been emptied.  So he became silent.
And perhaps, after that, he would have known that it was better
to be silent and inward looking to attain self realization.

"The Vasanas have to be emptied totally.  Even a single vasana,
may cause a rebirth." said Bhagavan Ramana.

Arunachala Siva.


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Re: Ramana Maharshi about young prodigies and genius people
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 10:09:04 PM »
They say our hidden desires also spring up in our sub consiousness that is the reason sometimes we unexpected experiences. Like a man who never gone to swimming pool he may see he is swimming. So it is better to aspire for self knowledge which may be our samskara. NALLADAIYE NINAI, NALLADAIYE CHEI, NALLADHE NADAKKUM... elder people say like this.

Is it the old samaskara for Namalzhwar, Hasthakamala, and Kumarakurupara Swamigal.
I had the story of Namalzhwar. When he was a kid some one asked Him. What are you doing? Namazhwar told
In the same way Hasthakamala & Kumarakurpara swamigal. They are the brahma jnani prodigies.



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Re: Ramana Maharshi about young prodigies and genius people
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 09:43:56 AM »

Dear Ramanaduli,

Yes.  The samskaras spring up unexpectedly.  Tiru Neelakanta
Kuyavanar was a potter and he was a great Siva devotee.  He
was married and lived a life total dedication and honesty to Siva
and faithful to his wife.  It so happened, once when he went out
to some other town, he saw a dancing girl and had union with her.
The potter's wife came to know about it and she swore in the name of Tiru Neelakantan (Siva) that he should not touch her thereafter.
This is an old vasana for the potter and this was over.  But his present life became miserable.  He had no issues and both remained without touching each other.  They became old.  Then
Siva came in the form of a sannyasi and set right things and also
gave them liberation. When VaLLalar Ramalingam sang about the
saints of Periya Puranam, he mentions, the three greatest saints, first about Siruthondar, (who gave his son's meat to Siva nicely cooked), this potter Tiru Neelakanta Kuyavanar and finally the hunter Kannapar. Their devotion to Siva is the highest.

But there are certain Brahma Jnanis who are born without any
samsakara at all.  Apart from Hastamalaka, there is Tiru Jnana
Sambandhar. He started singing at the age of 3 when he had the
divine vision of Siva and Parvati and had the breast milk from Parvati.  He is said to be an avatara of Skanda. 

Talks with Ramana Maharshi No. 643 says:

Question:  What is the true meaning of renunciation?  Subjugation of lust, passion, greed etc., is common to all and forms the essential, preliminary step for any course.  Does not freedom from passions indicate renunciation?......

Bhagavan: You have said it all.  Your question contains the answer also. Freedom from passions is the essential pre-requisite.  When that is accomplished, all else is accomplished.

Arunachala Siva.