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Vaikunta, Kailasa and other worlds
« on: June 12, 2009, 05:55:02 PM »
Sometime before 31st Jan 1946, someone enquired Bhagavan Ramana: "People talk of Vaikunta , Kailasa, Indraloka, Chandraloka etc., Do they really exist?"

Bhagavan replied: "Certainly.  You are rest assured that they
all exist. There also a Swami like me be found seated on a
couch and disciples will also be seated around him.  They
will ask something and he will say something in reply.
Everything will be more or less like this. What of that?
If one sees Chandraloka, he will ask for Indraloka, and
after Indraloka, Vaikunta and after Vaikunta, Kailasa and
so on and the mind goes on wandering.  Where is Shanti?
If Shanti is required, the only correct method of securing it
is by Self Enquiry.  Through Self Enquiry, Self Realization
is possible. If one realizes the Self, one can see all these
worlds within one's own self.  The Source of everything is
one's own self, and if one realizes the Self, one will not
find anything different from the Self.  Then these questions
will not arise.  There may or may not be a Vaikunta or a
Where are you?  After you know about this, you can think
of all those worlds!"

(Source: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam, Suri Nagamma.)

Arunachala Siva.   


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Re: Vaikunta, Kailasa and other worlds
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2009, 06:50:21 PM »
Dear srkudai,

Yes.  Everything is the fabrication of the mind.  If a person
could control or kill the mind, he is the Witness and all the
worlds are inside the Witness.  Bhagavan Ramana said when
He was once strolling on the Hill, with Kavyakanta Ganapati
Muni, who told him about various stars like Ardra [Siva's]
etc., Bhagavan Ramana looked at him intently and said:
"Nayana, I see all these stars revolving around my hip!"
Kavyakanta became speechless and prostrated there and
then to Ramana and said:  "You are Kartikeya, the famous
Krittika star, star of Skanda, the primordial light from the
third eye of Siva and it is no wonder that everything is within

Arunachala Siva. 


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Re: Vaikunta, Kailasa and other worlds
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2010, 08:51:10 PM »
yes the whole story Where Ramana Maharshi Asks Ganapati Muni "Who Am I" goes like this


Sri Bhagavan was in the Virupaksha Cave on the Hill. One evening after 7 p.m. they were all coming down the Hill to go round Arunachala. The other devotees had all gone in advance; only Sri Kavyakanta Ganapati Muni was in the company of Sri Maharshi, and they were slowly climbing down the steps from the cave.

Whey they had walked a few steps, all of a sudden Sri Maharshi stopped, and with Him Sri Kavyakanta as well. The full moon was shining bright in the East in the starry sky.Pointing to the moon and the beautiful sky, Sri Bhagavan said: "Nayana! If the sun, the moon, and all the stars have their being in ME, and the Sun himself goes round my hip with his satellites, who am I? who am I?''

This remark of Sri Maharshi made His blessed disciple envisage the Master as the Great Person of the Vedas, as described in 'Sri Rudra,' the 'Purusha Sukta,' and the 'Skamba Sukta,' of the Atharva Veda. He is verily all these, and That beyond; there is nothing that is not He. Sri Kavyakanta later made this revelation known to all the devotees.


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