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Ramana Lives:
« on: December 16, 2012, 01:48:18 PM »
(From Jayanti, 2007, Mountain Path.)

The following article by Major Chadwick, (Sadhu Arunachala) appeared in the first issue of Call Divine, in September 1972.
This magazine was started by Swami Rajeswarananada and assisted by Swami Chinmayananda and this stopped publication
in the year 1975:

Undoubtedly, the same peace is to be found at Tiruvannamalai as in the olden days when Sri Bhagavan's physical body was
still with us. Some people declare that they find it stronger now than before; formerly, they had been distracted by His form,
and now that that distraction is no longer there, they enjoy undisturbed bliss of His amazing aura. Did He not Himself say during
the last sad days: You say I am going to die? Die! I shall be more alive than ever.' And so it is.

But there are still a number who declare that He is dead, that there is no use coming to the Asramam and sitting besides an empty
tomb. 'No doubt there are psychic vibrations,' they admit reluctantly, 'but those you can find in any holy place. No, it is no use
remaining there, the initial impetus having been given you, you must go off in search of a 'living guru'. Living Guru, indeed! Is he not
now and ever most living?

But let us examine their argument. It is something like this. Sri Bhagavan having left His body has become absorbed in the Infinite,
(you don't mean to pretend that He is still bound to a corpse, do you?) so, except for certain sentimental attachments, there is no use
remaining in the Asramam or even visiting it. If you do go you may feel certain vibrations, the back-wash, so to speak, of the past, but
these are useless for Sadhana, or useful only as a preliminary step, which will lead you on to a 'living guru'. But for anybody with any
pretense to advancement, it is useless. There is an end of it.

But like so many plausible arguments, it is entirely false, for even by these people, Sri Bhagavan was admitted to be a Jivan Mukta,
one who is already and finally released, from ego. And how often did He not say: 'You think I am the body, this corpse I have to bear
about. That is where you are wrong. I am universal.'  You see:  'universal', even before He apparently left the body.


Arunachala Siva.


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Re: Ramana Lives:
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2012, 01:43:32 PM »
The whole mistake is initial, in the interpretation they put on the word Jivan Mukta. Or in what they think a Jnani is really
is and how he functions. When it is found that a Jivan Mukta is already absorbed in the Infinite and that for him the apparent
change he undergoes is no change at all. There should be no more misapprehension. there is no further step for a Jnani to take.
He lost all sense of doership or association with a particular body when he finally knew himself to be a Jnani. The physical death
is only just happening in the myriad strange happenings in Maya. He was in no way limited to the body while it was functioning.

It was there, one might say, for us.  We needed something that we could see, somebody who could speak to us. Now we must
get along without the comfort of physical presence, but it does not mean that Sri Bhagavan has not gone anywhere, indeed as He 
said Himself: Where could I go? I am always here!'

While He was in the body, His body acted as a visible center for concentration, as a point to focus at, which drew the disciples
to it, something tangible. Yet He never was the body even then, He was and knew He was eternal Atman alone. So now what is
more appropriate than that the place in which He lived so long and which so permeated with His presence should now serve as this
center for concentration? But to pretend for one moment that Sri Bhagavan Ramana has been dispersed, just blown away in thin
air, is madness. How could anybody who knew Him talk like this?

But, 'No. We don't exactly mean that. He has become absorbed in the Infinite, become in fact, the Infinite', they would reply.
'Now He is everywhere, not just at a point in Madras.' But as I said above this is no argument. He was always the Infinite and
denied His being in the body. The situation is exactly the same, except that now we no longer have His embodied form before
us. But there is still His Asramam and the Samadhi where that Sacred Body is enshrined.


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Re: Ramana Lives:
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2012, 01:32:50 PM »
Ramana Lives:

Major Chadwick - continues......

Theoretically, I suppose, there never was any need to seek Him in Tiruvannamalai, even when He was functioning through the
body, except for the well known rule that a Guru is necessary. Yet we felt the need, and living there knew the benefit. Today we
can still do the same.

But in old days, He spoke, gave verbal instructions. Now that can happen no more. But to how few DID He actually ever speak?
How many thousands just came and sat before Him silently and went away without a word. How many came with their minds bursting
with questions and in His presence and found all the questions self answered?  All this is still possible. Still, too, can we sit in front of
Samadhi and receive the most potent vibrations, get answers to our unasked questions, comfort and encouragement when needed.

To what after all did all His spoken instructions amount? 'There is only one SELF. You are That.'

Amplifying slightly it becomes: there is nothing to do, nothing to seek. There is only a false identification with limitation to discard and
that is done by concentration on the Eternal Witness, the One behind all phenomena. Know who you are and there is no more to
know. You cannot be the eternally changing body, you witness that; you cannot be the senses that observe and contact, you use them. You cannot be the mind with reasons, that is only a tool; you cannot even be the named individual, because that has it changes of childhood, youth and old age, it is born and it dies, it ceases in deep sleep; it takes entirely new forms and names in various births.
You are a witness of that too. But we know, each one of us, that there is a permanent 'I' behind all these functions and changes.
If we would only concentrate on that instead of on the apparent world, we should have no more worries or problems.

Any further additions to these teachings were purely given as a sop to the ever inquisitive mind which wants to know, to probe
into the future, but is never satisfied, as soon as one doubt is cleared there is another waiting to pop up and take its place.

Moreover how is it ever possible to clear doubts intellectually? For the moment we may be satisfied, then we forget the arguments,
or remember another on our side of the question which we forgot to pose. Bhagavan knowing this spoke little. 'Silence is the best!'
He would say. And here once more are we led back to the Asramam where the same silence can be found, the same presence, the
same inspiration, and the same all-absorbing peace.


Arunachala Siva.