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Messages - Om Hridayam

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There has always been a certain percentage of people who believe and a certain percentage of people who don't believe.
This has always been the human condition. Always. I seriously doubt that balance will change on any permanent level. By that I mean
There won't be a time when everyone believes or no one believes for the rest of history. Nothing to worry about.

Playing games? You don't know me and are making assumptions about my motives.
All I did was point out that your reference was incorrect.

Now you are not telling me "The fact Is that I am not interested in your message".

That is not a fact. You don't know me to make this statement. You are projecting on me.
I am suggesting that rather than falsely attributing a saying to Jesus,
to either get your facts straight or just say it in your own words... if it is "your message" then how is asking you to say it in your own words
a problem? That's not playing games, that's asking for a certain level of integrity.

General topics / Re: What makes Ramana so great
« on: March 09, 2011, 02:11:58 PM »
There is no doubt in my mind that Ramana is one of the rarest, greatest and most supreme gifts to the world in the field of spirituality.
What surprises me are the sheer number of people who acknowledge him, but think what they need is elsewhere.

Maybe they like his gospel on an intellectual level, but they can't quite bring themselves to sacrificing their precious ego, or they want a "living" teacher
or maybe they want flowery words as opposed to direct truths. As someone who has studied comparative religions for 30 years I have seen so many, many groups
many of whom I genuinely respect, but frankly none of their teachings come close to what Ramana brought, but there's not one group or center for Ramana around here or even close...
I only see two centers for Ramana in the United States. And many many much smaller groups draw bigger crowds. It's baffling.
But it is what it is. Ramana is watching the unfolding happen at its own rate. I am sure this is how it's meant to be, but it does baffle my little mind from time to time.

Not that big a deal.
I've been the messenger before, too... where the message is a mess.  ;D

The thing is, to me if it's your point, let it be -your- point.
Putting false words in someone else's mouth doesn't help your argument at all.

...and if someone points out your info is incorrect perhaps rather than playing the victim
you can simply acknowledge it and clarify what you meant.

Not really.
But it does remind me of something Krishna said which was "Got any Scooby snacks"?
Or Hafiz: " Hey, that's MY sandwich"
or Buddha: "I was like whatever, then she was like uh-huh, then I was all like yeah exactly, then she was like Mmmm-hmmm". least I think they said that.... but either way, my point and meaning is clear to everyone else.

Wouldn't it be better to make your point clearly without misquotes?

Jesus said: "What to you may be the great evil, to my Father may be the great good".

Actually, no that's not a quote from Jesus. I think that's a slightly altered quote from Socrates.

He most certainly knows about Ramana. He has a product to sell and the mentioning of the source of his thought might make him seem less "original".
I remember one comentator on Rajneesh "Osho" once mentioning that Rajneesh:
"...appealed to many westerners because his teachings so closely resembled Alan Watts... It didn't seem to occur to any of them that he had actually -READ- Alan Watts."

Humour / Re: A bumpersticker for Advaitins
« on: January 14, 2011, 01:14:19 PM »
For the Sufi's how about:
"Are You? Am I? (Rumi)

Humour / A bumpersticker for Advaitins
« on: January 13, 2011, 02:02:14 PM »
"Absolute Non Dualism makes Monotheism look like Polytheism."

I also had a question on my practice.

I sometimes simply find myself thinking "I love you Ramana", not as a replacement for self-inquiry, but just as a spontaneous expression of bhakti...
I find this also quiets down my thoughts very effectively. I figure if guru and Self are the same then it is an expression of love for Bhagavan.
I do feel a natural love for Ramana so it's not a forced thing, either.

But I did want to ask if this was considered appropriate (To create my own sort of prayer to Ramana) or if it was better to just do traditional self-inquiry exclusively.

General topics / Re: Sai Baba of Shirdi
« on: January 11, 2011, 12:19:55 PM »
I don't think there's any evidence that Sai was born a Muslim. In fact his origins are a mystery.

General Discussion / Re: God's mind behind Big Bang: Pope
« on: January 09, 2011, 11:24:28 PM »
I feel that most ancient "myths" (if you want to call them that) no matter what tradition they come from, Western, Eastern, tribal, societal etc....
take on these sort of fantastic qualities because in some cases they are trying to describe very subtle nuances of life, and allegory may be the only way to get these ideas across
... as all poets know sometimes saying something indirectly can get an idea across better than directly saying it... the downside, of course, is when people insist on taking them
literally... or at least in a way not intended to be taken, but that is a problem of the human condition. There will always be misunderstandings on this plane.

General Discussion / Re: God's mind behind Big Bang: Pope
« on: January 08, 2011, 11:56:17 PM »
I think the modern mind superimposes false ideas on ancient stories... The idea that everything -has- to be literally true for -other parts- of sacred scripture to be true
is more of an example of modern man's lack of understanding poetry than anything else. The idea that something is a "myth" seems to suggest that it's untrue in this age. Without
having poetic interpretations much of these kinds of ancient stories have little meaning. They don't have to be literally true as a story for them to have truth within it.
Again, I think it has more to do with modern man's lack of subtlety and understanding of myth, symbolism and poetry than it does any lack of the ancients in what they told us.

My mistake, I wrote "most" when I meant "some".
Some bread does have egg in it, but not all of them.

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