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Potri Thriu Agaval from Thiruvachagam
« on: July 22, 2015, 03:26:12 PM »
  Potri Thriu  Agaval  of Saint Manickavachagar from Thiruvachagam  is  a poem of salutations to the God using the Agval ("Agaval? is a form of blank verse, close to speech.) style.  After giving an introduction the,  author   goes on  to salute the Lord using several of his attributes and residences. In the first part  Manikkavasagar express how a human being form from woom and pass through several obstacles through his life like maya, karma, and relatives against gaining sprituality and how Lord Shiva, bless him towards sprituality. In part two and three he praised Lord Shiva by stating his nature. I felt that it is a remarkable prayer.
Here is the link to audio rendering of this beautiful song :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTYmGkbB3Ww

Here is a link to the English Translation and Transliteration of the same

http://stotraratna.sathyasaibababrotherhood.org/s63.htm

However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them? - Buddha

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Re: Potri Thriu Agaval from Thiruvachagam
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2015, 03:57:45 PM »
Dear atmavichar100,

Thank you. It takes about 30 minutes to listen fully.  I shall do it soon.

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Potri Thriu Agaval from Thiruvachagam
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2015, 03:03:13 PM »
Any reason why Manickavasagar is not considered one of the Naayanmaars ? Was it because he came after the list of 63 Nayanmars were compiled by Sekizhyar in Peria Puranam ?
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them? - Buddha

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Re: Potri Thriu Agaval from Thiruvachagam
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2015, 04:11:22 PM »
Dear atmavichar100,

It is a historical mystery. There are two views. MaRaimalai AdigaL (Swami Vedachalam) says* that Saint
Manikkavachagar belonged to 3rd Century AD.  So his name was lost in the four centuries between
him and Jnana Sambandhar who belonged to 7th Century AD. Another view is, that he came much after
SEkkizhar, the author of Tiruth ThoNdar Puranam, (Periya Puranam) which was composed in 10th Century
AD. David Godman says that the latter view is correct.  I am not sure.

Another view is that Manikkavachagar writes only about Jnana Marga, whereas the 63 Saints speak only
of Bhakti and Yoga.   This again is not totally a correct view, for Manikkavachagar writes about Bhakti and
Yoga too, see His Yaathirai Pathu and Tiruch Chadagam.

*in his book, Manikkavachagar Kaala Aaraychi, A research into the date of Manikkavachagar.

Only Siva knows what is correct.

Arunachala Siva.
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Re: Potri Thriu Agaval from Thiruvachagam
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2015, 04:15:07 PM »
Subramaniam Sir

Thanks for your info but do you have any instance of Bhagavan Ramana's views on this topic ?
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Re: Potri Thriu Agaval from Thiruvachagam
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2015, 04:24:47 PM »
Dear atmavichar100,

To my knowledge, Sri Bhagavan has not said anything about Manikkavachagar's period.


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Re: Potri Thriu Agaval from Thiruvachagam
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2015, 05:15:46 PM »
Dear sir,

Mannikka vachakar was during  King Varakuna pandian So when we see this king"s period we may know saint"s period too. He is not listed in nayan margal but He is one of Nalvars. Whatever it may be no body cannot cry for God like Him. Azhudhu Perravar.


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Re: Potri Thriu Agaval from Thiruvachagam
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2015, 05:53:23 PM »
Dear ramanaduli,


There are many Varaguna Pandiyan in Tamizh Pandya dynsties.

So it becomes difficult for researchers.

Arunachala Siva.