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Subramanya Bharati's death anniversary - 11.09.2013
« on: September 11, 2013, 09:57:23 AM »
Today is Mahakavi Subramanya Bharati's death anniversary.  He went to give some plantains to Tiruvallikeni temple elephant,
without knowing that it was mad, and the elephant stamped him with his legs and he suffered pain and sickness for some period.
Though he survived and worked in Swadasamitaran daily for some time, the internal injuries, perhaps had taken toll of his
life. 

Bharati is known for his special headgear, Sri Surnam and his ardent desire to join the freedom movement, which he could
not, since British could anytime arrest him and so he lived in self exile in Pondicherry.  He had friendship with Sri Aurobindo
and got inspired to write  national songs and songs on Sakti.  He died at the very premature age of 39. 

Bharati is known more for his songs on national freedom movement.  He belonged to the radical group of  Lokamanya Balagangadhara
Tilak and others.  But very few know that he has written songs on Sakti, Kannan, Vinayaka and other gods.  His Kannan/Kannamama
songs are quite famous.  My father was an ardent lover of Bharati and he named my first sister as Kannamma.   

Here is one verse from his famous Vandhemataram:   


ஆயிரம் உண்டிங்கு ஜாதி - எனில்
அன்னியர் வந்து புகல்என்ன நீதி? - ஓர்
தாயின் வயிற்றில் பிறந்தோர் - தம்முள்
சண்டைசெய் தாலும் சகோதரர் அன்றோ? (வந்தே)


Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Subramanya Bharati's death anniversary - 11.09.2013
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2013, 08:52:49 PM »
A complete source to Subramania Bharathiar's Poetic Works

http://www.tamilvu.org/library/l9100/html/l9100ind.htm

We can use this thread to share about Subramania Bharatiar's works and sayings

Here is Bharathiar talking about greatness of Tamil Language
தமிழ்

யாமறிந்த மொழிகளிலே தமிழ்மொழிபோல்
  இனிதாவது எங்கும் காணோம்.

பாமரராய், விலங்குகளாய், உலகனைத்தும்
  இகழ்ச்சி சொலப் பான்மை கெட்டு
நாமமது தமிழரெனக் கொண்டிங்கு
  வாழ்ந்திடுதல் நன்றோ? சொல்லீர்!
தேமதுரத் தமிழோசை உலகமெலாம்
  பரவும்வகை செய்தல் வேண்டும்.    1

யாமறிந்த புலவரிலே கம்பனைப்போல்,
  வள்ளுவர்போல், இளங்கோ வைப்போல்
பூமிதனில் யாங்கணுமே பிறந்ததில்லை,
  உண்மை, வெறும் புகழ்ச்சியில்லை;
ஊமையராய்ச் செவிடர்களாய்க் குருடர்களாய்
  வாழ்கின்றோம்; ஒருசொற் கேளீர்!
சேமமுற வேண்டுமெனில் தெருவெல்லாம்
  தமிழ் முழக்கம் செழிக்கச் செய்வீர்!    2

பிறநாட்டு நல்லறிஞர் சாத்திரங்கள்
  தமிழ்மொழியிற் பெயர்த்தல் வேண்டும்;
இறவாத புகழுடைய புதுநூல்கள்
  தமிழ்மொழியில் இயற்றல் வேண்டும்;
மறைவாக நமக்குள்ளே பழங்கதைகள்
  சொல்வதிலோர் மகிமை இல்லை;
திறமான புலமையெனில் வெளிநாட்டோர்
  அதைவணக்கஞ் செய்தல் வேண்டும்.    3

உள்ளத்தில் உண்மையொளி யுண்டாயின்
  வாக்கினிலே ஒளி யுண்டாகும்;
வெள்ளத்தின் பெருக்கைப்போல் கலைப்பெருக்கும்
  கவிப்பெருக்கும் மேவு மாயின்
பள்ளத்தில் வீழ்ந்திருக்கும் குருடரெல்லாம்
  விழிபெற்றுப் பதவி கொள்வார்;
தெள்ளுற்ற தமிழமுதின் சுவைகண்டார்
  இங்கமரர் சிறப்புக் கண்டார்.    4



Note : This line யாமறிந்த மொழிகளிலே தமிழ்மொழிபோல்
  இனிதாவது எங்கும் காணோம்.


A Tamil fanatic will say Tamil is the best language and that is understandable but Bharathiar was an expert not just in Tamil but also in Sanskrit , English and also few other languages and with this background if he has praised Tamil then we must understand how much depth in what he says .
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them? - Buddha

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Re: Subramanya Bharati's death anniversary - 11.09.2013
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2013, 09:40:17 PM »
http://blog.nilavan.net/2008/07/blog-post_4616.html

Poet Bharatidasan who kept Bharathiar as his Guru also wrote about the greatness of Tamil in his song given below .This song came in a Tamil movie .

இனபத் தமிழ்

தமிழுக்கும் அமுதென்று பேர் - அந்தத்
தமிழ் இன்பத் தமிழ் எங்கள் உயிருக்கு நேர்!
தமிழுக்கு நிலவென்று பேர் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் சமுகத்தின் விளைவுக்கு நீர்!
தமிழுக்கு மணமென்று பேர் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் வாழ்வுக்கு நிருமித்த ஊர்!
தமிழுக்கு மதுவென்று பேர் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் உரிமைச்செம் பயிருக்கு வேர்!

தமிழ் எங்கள் இளமைக்கு பால் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் நல்ல புகழ்மிக்க புலவர்க்கு வேல்!
தமிழ் எங்கள் உயர்வுக்கு வான் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் அசதிக்குச் சுடர்தந்த தேன்!
தமிழ் எங்கள் அறிவுக்குத் தோள் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் கவிதைக்கு வயிரத்தின் வாள்!
தமிழ் எங்கள் பிறவிக்குத் தாய் -இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் வளமிக்க உளமுற்ற தீ!

Here is the source to all poetic works of Bharathidasan
http://blog.nilavan.net/2008/07/blog-post_3027.html
« Last Edit: September 11, 2013, 09:47:04 PM by atmavichar100 »
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Re: Subramanya Bharati's death anniversary - 11.09.2013
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 07:26:23 PM »
http://blog.nilavan.net/2008/07/blog-post_4616.html

Poet Bharatidasan who kept Bharathiar as his Guru also wrote about the greatness of Tamil in his song given below .This song came in a Tamil movie .

இனபத் தமிழ்

தமிழுக்கும் அமுதென்று பேர் - அந்தத்
தமிழ் இன்பத் தமிழ் எங்கள் உயிருக்கு நேர்!
தமிழுக்கு நிலவென்று பேர் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் சமுகத்தின் விளைவுக்கு நீர்!
தமிழுக்கு மணமென்று பேர் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் வாழ்வுக்கு நிருமித்த ஊர்!
தமிழுக்கு மதுவென்று பேர் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் உரிமைச்செம் பயிருக்கு வேர்!

தமிழ் எங்கள் இளமைக்கு பால் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் நல்ல புகழ்மிக்க புலவர்க்கு வேல்!
தமிழ் எங்கள் உயர்வுக்கு வான் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் அசதிக்குச் சுடர்தந்த தேன்!
தமிழ் எங்கள் அறிவுக்குத் தோள் - இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் கவிதைக்கு வயிரத்தின் வாள்!
தமிழ் எங்கள் பிறவிக்குத் தாய் -இன்பத்
தமிழ் எங்கள் வளமிக்க உளமுற்ற தீ!

Here is the source to all poetic works of Bharathidasan
http://blog.nilavan.net/2008/07/blog-post_3027.html

Poet Bharadidasan is not a very liberal personality or noble in anyway.  He made strong cast remarks against brahmins,  started praising Ravana and degrading Hindu gods like Rama in his later life.

The proof is beyond doubt proved in many of the blogs actually meant for promoting his so called social remarks.

As regards Bharathiyar himself,  he was a confused personality,  no doubt he did not do any harm directly but he looked down on many of the sastric injunctions and himself never strictly followed anything.

After his visit to Kasi and seeing the pundits,  he composed many songs in a vein opposed to the vedantic and sastric sentiments. Current followers may try hard to conceal and construct a different meaning but neverthless his revolutionary attitude and criticism oriented behaviour infact attracted many of the vulgar and abusive atheistic community towards his ideology.

for instance the famous song like

nirpadhuve nadapadhuve parapadhuve neengal elaam karpanai dhaanaa   directly criticizes vedantic maya theory.

If one dig deep enough,  I regret to say this, infact few places he has spoken high of attraction to women also.

These two personalities -- Bharathiyar and more so with Bharathidasan they are not beyond all differences accepted by all.

I write all this not to derail anybody's sentiments or faith put in this 'Guru' but at the same time the non tamil speaking community and westeners has a right to know all the sides of these two poets which they can obtain from the net in abundant if someone doubts what I say.

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Re: Subramanya Bharati's death anniversary - 11.09.2013
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 07:40:10 PM »

Bharati Dasan later joined Dravida Kazhagam and started speaking and writing ill of Hinduism and Brahmins.  Regardless
of these, he had great respect for Bharati and his wife Chellamma Bharati.  Once when Chellamma Bharati was walking
on the streets of Pondicherry, he told his friends: Iyer's wife is coming.  So saying, he did sAshtanga namaskram to
Chellamma  Bharati, right on the road! 

Regarding Bharati, he was only against caste differences but not about Hindu or Vedantic philosophy. He used to
have Sri Suranam (one single red vertical line) on his forehead.  His Kuyil Pattu and some other songs are having
hidden philosophical thoughts.  If he had been Dravida Kazhagam man, then Swadeasmitran would not have offered
him a job.  He composed poems about Kannan, the nation that was enslaved by British and also about the philosophical
content of Hinduism.  His relationship with Sri Aurobindo made him a Sakti Upasakaka.

As a poet Bharati Dasan was quite inferior to Bharati's calibre. 

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Subramanya Bharati's death anniversary - 11.09.2013
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 08:01:16 PM »

Bharati Dasan later joined Dravida Kazhagam and started speaking and writing ill of Hinduism and Brahmins.  Regardless
of these, he had great respect for Bharati and his wife Chellamma Bharati.  Once when Chellamma Bharati was walking
on the streets of Pondicherry, he told his friends: Iyer's wife is coming.  So saying, he did sAshtanga namaskram to
Chellamma  Bharati, right on the road! 

Regarding Bharati, he was only against caste differences but not about Hindu or Vedantic philosophy. He used to
have Sri Suranam (one single red vertical line) on his forehead.  His Kuyil Pattu and some other songs are having
hidden philosophical thoughts.  If he had been Dravida Kazhagam man, then Swadeasmitran would not have offered
him a job.  He composed poems about Kannan, the nation that was enslaved by British and also about the philosophical
content of Hinduism.  His relationship with Sri Aurobindo made him a Sakti Upasakaka.

As a poet Bharati Dasan was quite inferior to Bharati's calibre. 

Arunachala Siva.

Dear Sir

I really appreciate your reply and its highly mature and impartial contents.

Infact Bharathi dasan is I would call a utter fake and oppurtunist who did not have had his senses under control.

And with Bharathiar also,  if one keenly observes,  he was very confused on his own idelogies.

Swadesimitran and other Indian Nationalist type of journals will definitely keep Bharathiar in high esteem.  Lot of art, lot of poetical beautiy and lot of manifold themes like Papaa paattu will make Bharathiar a literary figure no doubt.

But the problem comes as he seemingly wanted to be both a devotee and a revolutionalist.

I would say Bharatiar fell in line with Brahmo Samaj of 19th Century which Ramakrishna Paramahamsa had seen in his own time.

Personalities like Bharathiar never pursued realization or sadhana seriously,  they just used their poetic gift to sing 'so called' devotional songs but heart in heart, their mind was only pre-occupied with how to change the society, ' (without first thinking to change oneself which our Bhagavan Ramana clearly emphasized to every social worker who met him)

I really still appreciate your father to have had his first daughter named after Bharathiar's Kannama.