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Re: Subject of Marriage
« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2013, 12:41:57 PM »
Here is a real life story from Swami Sivananda's life as explained by one of his direct disciples Swami Chaitanyananda is his book "A Saga of Spiritual Unfoldment  " .

When Swami Sivananda came to Rishikesh first as a wandering monk and was staying at Swarg Ashram  , he just got only some dry rotis and simple dal as food and initially it was ok for him but day in and out having the same food again and again for many months  was really a challenge for him  and he got fed up. One day a Rich devotee who knew Swami Sivananda from his Poorva Ashrama days gave him Rs.5/- ( In today's equivalent it is equal to Rs.500/-) and he immediately went to the Bazzar area in Rishikesh and found a Sweet Shop and bought 3 kgs of sweets ( Jilabeis ) for that Rs.5 and ate all in one stroke .
Swami Sivananda used to highlight this incident from his own life to struggling sadhaks that mind will always find a way to trick a person and one needs to be careful about it and not go to extremes on the spiritual path .
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them? - Buddha

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« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2013, 12:42:15 PM »
Nagaraj/Silentgreen/Krishna/friends,
All your statements are valid in a general sense.Yet we are considering the norms for a serious seeker and I certainly agree with Nagaraj.This is what TGN recommends and if my view is of any consequence,I will certainly emphasize this.
Papa Ramdas was once asked by Dilip Dadaji(Dilip Kumar Roy):Papa ,what is the way to attain Sri Krishna?
Papa replied :'If you wish to attain Krishna,you must love him not among other things but above all things"

Udai had asked:How is it watching a TV different than being connected on the Net(PC)?It is simple.No TV Program is free of commercials and there is simply no way one can filter these.We certainly can control what we browse and can be selective about it.

The other day I heard a simple thing from one colleague of mine(The Lord arranges for such lessons for us from anyone even from the least expected quarters!)
He was talking on some trivial thing and came up with this quip:
A man approached his Guru and asked:Can I meditate(smarana) when I am smoking?
Guru:Assuredly you can
Man:Can I smoke when I am meditating?
Guru:Surely not!

Where is the difference in as much as samuel johnson described a smoker as Fire at one end and fool at the other?
It depends on where one's priorities are.
If the priority is smoking(smoker described above!),surely it can  accommodate something that can help the person eventually to free himself from its entrapment.
On the other hand if the priority is meditation,surely no such thing as smoking can be admitted.Even if one is sitting on the fence as far as priority is concerned,it is better to initially persuade the mind to give up contact with such a thing.Certainly the will power gained coupled to the benefits of meditation will tilt the balance in favour of meditation,and the very desire to smoke will wither away.
In fact,it will become difficult for the devotee to watch any TV program or cinema,as his mind is turned within and not available for recreation.He hardly even hears what sound emanates from TV and what sights it displays.

Does this mean absent mindedness or lack of control?NO.He is just not interested.This is all to it.

So,to get back,yes this thread which considers what a sincere seeker should set as top priority;the verdict is clear.The Chaff is chaff and Grain is Grain.Never can the two be considered on par.No quarters to any such compromises.

I fully agree with Nagaraj.I do not for a moment suggest that others should not watch TV or entertain themselves in any other way.Please do so by all means if you wish it that way.

Wishing you the Very Best.

Namaskar.

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Re: Subject of Marriage
« Reply #92 on: February 12, 2013, 02:07:31 PM »
d: Should we watch TV?

cguru: Yes

d: Yes?

cguru: No

d: No?
Which one?

cguru: This thread is about marriage. If you are married to TV, watch TV. If you are married to Sadhana, do Sadhana. Decide whom you want to marry.
Homage to the Universal Being...Om Shanti ... Om Shanti ... Om Shanti ...

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Re: Subject of Marriage
« Reply #93 on: February 12, 2013, 02:25:30 PM »
silentgreen,
 :)
Namaskar.

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« Reply #94 on: February 12, 2013, 02:59:09 PM »
 Friends,
Thanks to all for all your thoughts. Each one us truly benefit accorfing to our individual journeys. I think one point is taken for naturally known to each one of us that anything that has to com or change, has to come from within. There is no doubt one should not force onto oneself anything. It is known that such self coersion wont help one in any way. The purpose of all discussions specially in this topic and in general, in this forum ought to help one acquiant one with oneself the highest ideal. It is absolutely upto the sadgaha's wisdom to work his salvation, as said by buddha. Assuming on one hand that the highest ideal has to come naturally and mot forced opon oneself, and wait for it to happen of its own accord, nothing will happen, bhagavan has said grace is always there its entirely upto sadhaka to take it, if we go with a small cup, we get that much and if we go with bigger, we get that much. If we remain with vague ideals that nothing needs to be done, it would be a grave error.

Mind requires something to feed upon, bhagavan said it feeds on what you give, if you give world, objects it feeds on that if we give god, it will feed on god. Our highest aspiration has to be to feed on God. Here i remember akshara manamalai, which speaks of beong eaten by him having come to feed on him.

It is to bring to light to ourselves how much we are slaves of ourind, television is one big example, and is truly a great hindrance to ones progress.

Carl jung, said, nobody comes to consciousness without pain. Spiritual life and goal is not as easy as it is popularly costrued, specially those that encourage to just be, nothing neef be done, on the other hand, our minds being slaves of so mamy things, we are not even aware about.

If not completely, as sadhakas, we ought to strive for the ideal.

we need to prepare ourselves mentally wiser and clearer and avoid such obvious impediments such as television and the likes, many other.

Thank you, from mobile.


From mobile, spellings, sentences excuses pls.
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« Reply #95 on: February 12, 2013, 05:28:19 PM »
ask a person who lives and abides as Self and let him tell.

Ok swamiji

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« Reply #96 on: February 12, 2013, 07:43:34 PM »
Mind requires something to feed upon, bhagavan said it feeds on what you give, if you give world, objects it feeds on that if we give god, it will feed on god.

Very true, Nagaraji-ji. Mind needs to grab onto something like the stick given in elephant's trunk.

On this topic, Swami Chinmayananda (I think in book "Self unfoldment") talks about suppression and sublimation. Suppression of desires will not help - since it depends on the mind's willpower. Willpower, is after all, just a function of ego and not reliable. When ego gets disturbed/upset,  willpower weakens and the desire will come back exponentially higher in power. (this is why all the starvation diets don't work - people who lose weight by starving put it all back!!)

Sublimation is when we think of our desire, analyze it and weaken the desire itself by contemplation. It can also help if a lower desire is substituted with a higher/more sublime one - for e.g., desire for watching TV with desire for reading a good book or listening to a lecture. Many of our desires are out of habit - we can slowly switch them into something better for us by building new habits to replace the old.

I feel automatically, our desires and interests change with sadhana.. they automatically drop away and don't give us as much joy as they used to.

For some of us, committing to a particular discipline (like not watching TV, not eating spicy food, etc) helps. Swami Tapovanam apparently used to take all the devotees' offerings of sweets and drop it into the Ganga as he felt it would be a unnecessary distraction for him and his disciples. Swami Sivananda's example quoted earlier shows this helps too. It is ok if others don't pursue same ideas, but there is nothing to ridicule about it.

Language has limitations and our ability to use language also has limitations. I love the forum, however, reading some of the posts is like biting into a sour taste in a otherwise perfect meal - but that is also my mind making these impressions. So, that is also part of our sadhana - to take what helps and ignore what doesn't.

Pranam,
Deepa
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« Reply #97 on: February 13, 2013, 04:24:42 AM »
Dear Sri Deepa,

Yes, i strongly believe in what you have said. For some, they may be already in a setup that automatically facilitates or create an environment to shun what is to be shunned. There may be few who may perhaps require nothing else absolutely, but, i truly believe so in totally striving to facilitaye our main sadhana by taming ourind, which is slave of many things.

I do not see it wise to leave it tp happen all by itself. If am free, no people aroind me, alone, family, then pwrhaps these thinhs may be different. But we are in different embironment. Discipline is essential

Bhagavan has saif

 What are the rules of conduct which an aspirant (sadhaka) should follow?Moderation in food, moderation in sleep and moderation in speech.
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« Reply #98 on: February 13, 2013, 06:29:51 AM »
Some time back Sri ravi sharef a wonderful book, Spiritual Practice. Below, i provide a much shorter, abridged version of the book. Hope it is of some help to some who are intetested.

INTRODUCTION

The first impact of spirituality is one of awe at its beauty, something very emotional. But when the moment passes, there are so many doubts that arise regarding the why and what. The author of this book felt the same need. This book is an attempt to discuss the preliminary stages of practical religion. The writer does not claim to be perfect, and this book is a record of his own personal understanding of things.

IN THE OUTER COURT

Some people get the 'call of religion' and give up their worldly activities, some even go to monasteries. But very often these people are not fit for the live of religion and renunciation. They lack the preparation and qualifications without which religion can be dry, or at worst, even harmful to the individual. Religion is not so easy to come by. It requires not just an interest, but proper preparation. MANY PRELIMINARY STAGES HAVE TO BE COVERED BEFORE RELIGION CAN BE OF ANY GOOD TO MAN. Ignoring these preliminary stages as unnecsssary is a serious mistake that sadhakas can make. The vast majority of humankind is not ready for serious religion. They have attachments to sensory pleasures or strong body consciousness.

When the animal instinct is strong in man, religion only means submission to rules and following them blindly. Art, pursuit of beauty, charity and love are steps by which man's nature is elevated beyond the basic. It is not possible to circumvent these stages. Rajas must overcome Tamas and only then can Satva come up. So the first step for an aspirant is to see if he has gone beyond the grosser aspects of life and has learnt to appreciate the finer aspects of life - art, beauty, quest for knowledge, service, love etc. If these steps are discarded, bitterness and confusion results.


SANDHYA VANDANA AND KIRTANA

Apart from all that has been mentioned in the previous chapter, there are three things which are pathways - Sandhyavandana, singing the names of the lord, and Pranayama. But there are some points to be noted here also. Sandhyavandana is not equally effective in everyone. It depends on the mental frame of the doer also. There is a common misconception that doing this ritual will take one to the gates of heaven. But it is not that easily attainable. Our character is of far greater consequence than these rituals in the spiritual journey.
The same way, nama sankirtanam is not easy. It is not enough to just sing the names of the lord, but one must be totally humble and must surrender his will to that of the lord. Without this step, singing the names of the lord is not enough, and contrary to popular belief, nama sankirtanam calls for a very great amount of mental control and tuning.
IN INDIA, ESPECIALLY BENGAL PEOPLE FOLLOW THIS BHAKTHI CULT AND SING AND BECOME VERY EMOTIONAL. THIS IS DANGEROUS.
SWAMI VIVEKANANDA HAS WARNED VERY STRINGENTLY ABOUT THIS TO HIS DISCIPLE  - He has specifically advised that during meditation (or any form of thinking of the lord) avoid emotion altogether. EMOTIONALISM IS A GREAT SOURCE OF DANGER. The emotional high during kirtan might rouse the kundalini upwards, but on the cessation of that state, it runs down with an even greater force, ruining the sadhaka. All these STATES of Bhakthi are very dangerous and they invariably lead to a rise in lust when they are over. BHAKTHI OR DEVOTION, SINGING OF THE NAMES OF THE LORD, GETTING EMOTIONAL ABOUT GOD, WITHOUT ADEQUATE MENTAL PREPARATION IS FAR MORE DANGEROUS. IT HAS MORE MINUSES THAN PLUSES. This is unfortunately not spoken about much. A lot of people believe this to be the best and easiest sadhana. Far from it. Without character being attended to, without man weaning away from the lower impulses, all of these are totally useless. Art, beauty, love have greater value on the spiritual life than these rituals.

PRANAYAMA

There are certain essential conditions to Pranayama that are ignored. People think this is an easy route. Many people have gone down the path of Yoga and pranayama and it has turned fatal for them. Mind body are interlinked. One influences the other. Which is why the concept of altering / controlling breath to control the mind.
The nerves are very important for a healthy body and mind. Yet people overlook the significance of the nerves. PRANAYAMA IF PRACTISED UNWISELY CAN RUIN THE NERVES AND BRAIN COMPLETELY. Either the baser nature is repressed and the nerves are forced to carry religious and spiritual thoughts and ideas, or the sexual energy is brought into consciousness. In both these cases, physical degradation is inevitable.

So Pranayama should only be practised after careful and diligent preparation of the mind. The grosser impulses have to be done away with, the mind has to be used to thinking of the finer things of life. And then, it has to be llearnt under the guidance of a proper teacher.

INTELLECTUALISM vs SPIRITUALITY

It isi easier to know things intellectually than to be fixed in that knowledge. Intellectual knowledge is very common in spirtuality. Very often it is mistaken for true realisation. If this is the case, then why did we talk about knowledge as an important pre requisite to spirituality? Not to know the truth, but to understand the nature of all that is untrue. To rid ourselves of the grosser side. To this end, knowledge is very important. In the ultimate state, knowledge or karma are of no consequence, in the undivided, non dual state of the Absolute, but until one gets there, they are very important. To live in the world, it is important to understand the ideals of one's religion so that one may not be swayed by opposing views and ideas.

Contd...
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« Reply #99 on: February 13, 2013, 06:32:22 AM »
ON THE THRESHOLD

So ,for a very long time, we have to play the double game - that is, slowly re train the mind to think of spiritual things, weaning it away from the material, all the while being physically immersed in it ourselves. When we are here, wr need to ask ourselves two questions - 1) is this spiritual hunger real or false, 2) will we able to sustain it till the very end. Only deep and true Vairagya should be the basis of wanting to renounce the world. Vairagya born out of someone's death, or some other tragedy in life is bound to be short lived. It is risky to take a drastic step at this phase of life. It is better to wait. UNTIL ONE IS IN THE WORLD, ONE HAS TO HAVE DISCIPLINE AND EFFICIENCY IN DISCHARGING THE WORLDLY DUTIES. THESE QUALITIES WILL COME A LONG WAY EVEN IN THE SPIRITUAL LIFE. Another important aspect to be noted is that spirtual life is a life of labour. One has to constantly do work and keep the baser things away. It is not a one time effort. It is a life long, slow, often painful thing. This has to be borne in mind before one ventures into it.

WHEN SHALL WE RENOUNCE

Only when you have the power to succeed in the worldly pursuits, then you can think of renouncing. Not being good at worldliness is a very poor reason for jumping into spirituality and guarantees failure in that dimension. One must hve everything it takes to succeed in the world, and then give it up for good. The other acid test is this. If your mind does not go in search of sensory pleasure when it is not in front of the eyes, then you are ready for renunciation. But when the object is not there, and yet you think of it, then it means that you are not yet ready to leave. THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION IS THAT OF LUST. Do you think of sex only when provoked? Or does the mind go to sex by its own? If that is the case, you are not yet ready to renounce and you need physical discipline.

It is foolish to marry for the sake of satisfying lust. If one marries, then one will never leave. Procreation is not the foremost duty of every man. It is a very foolish argument to say that one has to mmarry, get a daughter in law to serve one's parents. ONE SHOULD SERVE THE PARENTS FOR AS LONG AS THEY LIVE, AND AFTER THEY MOVE ON, ONE CAN RENOUNCE. Marrying for the sake of lust, will help one appease the lust, not conquer it. After clear understanding of all this, it is alright to renounce.

IS RENUNCIATION NECESSARY

Celibacy is the basis of all spiritual power. Wiuthout renunciation, true celibacy is not possible. Mental renunciation, renouncing everything that is not linked to God, is very essential. Even service, if not practised with this idea, can become bondage.

EXTERNAL RENUNCIATION

This is also very very important. ALL OF US ARE NOT BORN GNANIS LIKE JANAKA. BUT THAT SAID, UNTIL ONE HAS ANY DUTY LEFT IN THE WORLD (any obligation to someone else, one's parents are alive and they have to be served etc) JANAKA IS THE IDEAL FOR A SPIRITUAL ASPIRANT TO LIVE BY. At the moment when one's duties are over, one has to physically renounce and leave. The world is a place where everyone is in search of some form of self gratification. being in the world will not help a sadhaka, and will keep dragging him down. So, when time is on his side, it is better for him to externally / physically renounce the world. Renouncing things hysically will bring the latent attachment to the forefront and one will be able to deal with it. If one is in the world, one may not enjoyr pleasures every moment, but the awareness that the pleasures are in the vicinity, ready ot be be enjoyed, keeps them happy. This can be addressed if one renounces. ALSO, LIVING IN THE WORLD, ONE CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT TREAT EVERYONE EQUALLY. ONE HAS TO DO MORE FOR ONE'S OWN. This will be remedied only when one renounces the world.

IS HUMAN LOVE A HELP

No. At the stage of renunciation, even human love is a hindrance, a burden. But until one reaches that level of complete renunciation, one must actively love one's people, for it elevates one from the beastly stages of a brute. This minor refinement is the only use of this.

THE CASE OF THE UNMARRIED

If we can formally renounce the world, these questions would not even apply, but for many of us, that is not possible. There is some duty that stops us, parents who need to be attended to, someone who is dependent on us in many ways etc. Earlier, Hinduism did not allow unmarried men to live in the world. Either one got married and lived in the owrld, or one renounced and became an ascetic. BUT TODAY, UNMARRIED MEN DO LIVE IN THE WORLD. The world is more complex, more problem ridden. So if it not possible to renounce, they can live a life of service. But certain things arr to be observed. UNMARRIED MEN HAVE TO OBSERVE THE STRICTEST BRAHMACHARYA. This is the foundation of spirituality. Without this, anything else is totally meanigless and a mockery. Then comes regular spiritual practise, and then comes sevrvice. One must do some form of spritual practice - whatever is chosen, it must be done regularly and systematically. Then duties have to be discharged diligently and efficiently. Then comes interaction with humans - every interaction should be done with the idea that one is serving / interacting with God. This is called spiritualisation (of even the normal, the mundane things of life)

THE CASE OF THE MARRIED

It is more difficult for a married person to take up the spiritual path. Householder's life is a concession to the spiritual life. It is not the best. Even if married, one must follow continence. After having children, spouses must live like brother and sister. They must sleep in different rooms, or atleast different beds. It is more helpful if both husband and wife have the same goals spiritually. The other important thing is to practise periods of solitude. The other inportant thing is satsanga. He must also go to a Guru, get initiation and do what is prescribed for him.

KARMA YOGA

The mind tends to go out and look for things. It is this trait that is addressed in the due and proper obsrvance of karma yoga. Karma yoga has to be done in combination with either Bhakthi - sacrificing everything to God, or Jnana yoga - being dis associated from the deed itself and not taking ownnership of anything. This is the key that the Gita prescribes. The first stage is to do work for mind purification. The second is workng with an attitude of worship. At this stage, even being a clerk or a mechanic should be done, as if it were the service of God. Every action should be executed thinking that one is offering a flower at God's altar, or the like. With respect to work, one has to be mentally rrmoved and detached. Not hysically.

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« Reply #100 on: February 13, 2013, 06:34:42 AM »
BRAHMACHARYA

This means giving up sex in thought and deed. This is essential for ensuring that the kundalini is moving in higher chakras and not the baser ones. Also, sprituality puts great ppressure on the brain and nerves, and not pracitising brahmacharya will weaken it even further. Very highly sensitive nerves are essential to perceive higher spiritual truths. These nerves die when sexual energy is let out and not conserved. THE SECRET TO BRAHMACHARYA IS TO NOT GIVE IMPORTANCE TO DETAILS OF FOOD AND LIVING. The more you harp on how food and living conditions affect your sexuality adversely, the more they will. Ignoring it, is the key. It is not possible to do it fully all at once, but slowly and steadily build this up till u can live without being aware of the body at all. SOME HELPFUL HABITS ARE - Give up thought of sexuality, give up company of people who dwell on that. Be a little hard and tough on yourself. Don't sleep too less or too long. Eat lightly at night. Don't dress too warm. Do not put your body through any extremes either. DO NOT GET OBSESSED WITH ANY OF THESE THINGS. YOUR MENTAL STATE ABOUT CONSUMING FOOD IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ACTUAL FOOD CONSUMPTION ITSELF. So if you have to eat something that is not very pure or satvic, just take it in stride. That is the most helpful attitude.

Do not be perturbed by nocturnal emission. It is natural And eventually it will also go down if the mind is brought in control. Keep the mind CALM. DO NOT AGITATE IT WITH ANYTHING. (meaning do not watch violent things, or news or stuff like that,m espoecially at night). The day after one has nocturnal emission, one could repeat the name of God more often, and maybe even observe moderate fast. MODERATION, AND NOT EXCESS IS THE KEY TO BRAHMACHARYA.

THE QUESTION OF FOOD

EAT ONLY WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE. Tthat is even more iportant that eating the right kind of food. ACIDITY IN THE BODY IS THE MAIN CAUSE OF FATIGUE. Even eating meat occassionally is alright for the normal man. Vegetarian food, avoiding spices, is the most conducive to good contemplation, but the fuss that is made on this issue, is absurd. Polluting the food affects only the spiritually advanced and not the novice, so one need not harp too much on this issue. The mental aspct is more important than that of the physical. FOOD RELATED TO SHRADDHA (DEATH CEREMONY) SHOULD BE AVOIDED BY THE SPIRITUAL ASPIRANT. (this was something Ramakrishna paramahasa used to insist on) Ramakrishna also used to say that even eating beef is better if one is good by nature, rather than be a tyrant and eat just rice and ghee. FOOD DOES NOT MAKE A MAN SPIRITUAL.

THE NECESSITY OF A GURU

The modern mind is very egotistic and individualistic. People start questioning - the truth is everywhere, it is in me also, so why do i need a Guru? This is a wrong argument. It is futile. Guru is essential is eveyr way. Through him, we go to the ishta devata or the chosen deity. Take your time to choose your Guru, but once having accepted one, you must become blind to all his flaws and mistakes, even if you find any.

SIGNS OF A TRUE GURU

There are definite lakshanas for a guru and a shishya. the disciple must have viveka and vairagya. Without that, he is not qualified to be a good student. ALTHOUGH TRUTH IS WITHOUT DIVISIONS, ONE HAS TO CHOOSE A GURU WHO IS ON THE SAME PATH AS ONE WISHES TO TRAVEL. A SHAKTHA MUST APPROACH SOMEONE WHO HAS REALISED GOD AS THE MOTHER, AND A VAISHNAVA MUST BE GUIDED BY ONE WHO HAS SEEN GOD AS VISHNU ETC. Occult powers are not indicative of advancement in spirituality. There are some other signs that Swami Vinekananda has given. They are - A true guru has more to do with the spirit of the scriptures, and lesser with the words. The second condition is that the guru must be sinles and pure because there is a lot that is taught by way of non verbal comunication also.. Third, there must be no ulterior motive in the person to teach for any reason. If all these conditions are met, then one is safe.

A disciple has to oberve the guru day and night. If he is convinced that the guru is indeed worthy, then he has to surrender himself at his feet. Then there can be no looking back. THE SEARCH FOR A GURU IS A VERY LONG ONE. UNTIL ONE FINDS THE GURU, ONE HAS TO PRAY TO GOD TO SEND HIM THE RIGHT GURU, AND BECOME BETTER IN HIMSELF. WATCH AND PRAY. WHEN THE STUDENT IS READY, THE MASTER APPEARS.

CONCLUSION

Having led one to the feet of the Guru, nothing more is yet to be done. From here, the aspirant has entered into God's mansion. The Guru wil take him where he needs to be taken, The scope of this book is to take the aspirant until this point only. Om Shanthi Shanthi Shanthih
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« Reply #101 on: February 13, 2013, 07:10:31 PM »
Dear Nagaraj,

Thank you so much for knowledge sharing. It has been very informative!

Om arunaachaleshwaraaya namaha

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« Reply #102 on: February 13, 2013, 07:25:20 PM »
Dear Sri Vinod,

Thank you, it is thoroughly an holistic approach, it has been of excellent help to me as well.

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« Reply #103 on: February 14, 2013, 03:10:34 AM »
Friends ,

I reproduce yet another important subject below, an article by Swami Sivananda.

Conscience

Conscience is the light of the Soul that burns within the chambers of your heart. It is the little spark of celestial fire that makes known to you the presence of the Indweller, the author of the divine laws of truth and holiness. It raises the voice in protest whenever anything is thought of or done contrary to the interest of its Master.

Conscience is the voice of the Self which says ‘yes’ or ‘no’ when you are involved in a moral struggle. It is a call from within to do an act or to avoid it. Conscience is the internal monitor. Conscience is a form of truth which is the knowledge of our own acts and feelings as right or wrong. It is a sensitive balance (scales) to weigh actions. It is a guiding voice from within, the faculty or principle by which we distinguish right from wrong. This sense of duty is conscience. Scrupulousness is conscience.

Conscience is a silent teacher.Conscience is a moral faculty. It is a delicate instrument or sense that tells you then and there what is right and what is wrong. It is the soundless inner voice that shows you the path of virtue and godliness. It is indeed very, very delicate. It is very easy to stifle it, but it is so very clear that it is impossible to mistake it.

Conscience is above reason and discussion. It is a sudden, dictatory command to plunge deep into the depths of virtue, or to rise high above the level of vice. The positive elements that adorn conscience are truth, courage and justice.

Conscience is a needle that points steadily to the Pole Star :"Do this action, it is right." It warns you also: "That is wrong, do not do that.

"Conscience is a great ledger. All your offences are written and registered in this ledger. It is a terrible witness.

Conscience is the best Minister of Justice. It threatens, promises, rewards and punishes, keeping all under its control. If conscience stings you once, it is an admonition; if twice, it a condemnation. To act against the conscience is to act against reason and Divine Law.

How Conscience Operates

When you do a wrong action, the conscience pricks you. It says to you in a clear small shrill voice, "Do not do this wrong action, my friend. It will bring misery to you." A wise man at once ceases to act further.

Conscience warns you like a teacher or a friend, before it punishes you as a judge. It tells you to behave in the right manner.

Cowardice asks, "Is it safe?" Avarice asks, "Is there any gain in it?" Vanity asks, "Can I become great?" Lust asks. "Is there pleasure in it?" But conscience asks, "Is it right?" Conscience prompts you to choose the right way instead of the wrong, and informs you that you ought to do the right thing.

The first impulse of conscience is apt to be right. If there are pin-pricks and twists in the conscience, if there is a sense of shame and depression in the heart, know that you have done a wrong action. If there is exhilaration and cheerfulness, feel that you have done a virtuous action.

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« Reply #104 on: February 14, 2013, 03:11:40 AM »
When Conscience Can Be Relied Upon

Conscience is obscured by human sin and weakness. The faint inner voice of the Spirit is stifled by the rumbling of emotional conflicts, base impulses and dictates of the flesh. It is awakened and sharpened to new clearness through purity of conduct and practice of ethical virtues.

Conscience becomes blunt through misuse. It is even destroyed through abuse and misuse. It becomes perverted through wickedness. Uttering falsehood and taking bribes destroy the conscience altogether.

In the world people think of one thing, say another thing, and do a third thing. This is horrible, and nothing but crookedness. You must carefully watch your thought, speech and action. The little you gain by telling lies is no gain at all. You pollute your conscience and infect your subconscious mind.

The habit of telling lies will be carried over to your next birth also, and you will undergo suffering from birth to birth.

You have become insincere on account of intoxication, through selfishness and greed. You do not know exactly what you are doing. You have a clouded understanding. Your conscience will prick you severely and your heart will bleed when you come to your senses. Your heart should bleed through repentance. Only then can you purify yourself.

The habit of taking bribes is very common. If you ask anybody working in an office, "What is your salary?" he will say, "Well, my salary is only Rupees 50 but my income is about Rupees 75." This income is nothing but bribes. People are ignorant. Even the so-called educated people have no idea of the law of action and reaction, of impressions of the subconscious mind and their force. If you take bribes, you will be punished for such wrong actions. The impression of taking bribes will force you to repeat this habit even in the next birth, and you will become a dishonest man again. Your thoughts and actions are registered in the subconscious mind. You will carry your dishonesty from birth to birth and undergo great suffering.

Reduce your wants and live honestly within your means. You will have a clean conscience. You will always be free from anxiety and all kinds of worries. You will have a peaceful death. I hope you now understand the gravity of this law of action and reaction. Become a virtuous man and be truthful from the very second you read these lines. Never, never join those offices which are amenable to corruption and temptation. If you do so you will also be corrupted.

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॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta