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Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« on: February 04, 2013, 01:35:52 PM »
The Darshan of the Hugging Saint.

Matha Amrutanandamayi or Ammachi is called the Hugging saint as she is famous for Hugging while giving darshan.

Well,  for past one year so,  I have been curious time to time to meet her once.

I could not go to ArmitaPuri and also she was in international trip in the year 2012.

In 2013, I heard she started Bharata Yatra.

She was in Bangalore on Jan 30 and 31 2013 but due to workload I could not go to her Banglaore ashram on working days. 

Also this thoguht was also there --that I am moving away from Arunachala Ramana to other saints.  I pondered over this again and again,  finally made a prayer to Arunachala to give me some solace and grant Her Darshan.  I recollected how S S Cohen,  Ganapati Muni and ohters went to see Shri Aurobindo

and Mother as a one time darshan.  I also re-collected how Kunju Swammi went to some math for a darshan and how he narrated his exp to Bhagavan (like he did not prostrate etc.)

I re-collected how Chalam and Souris,  Talyerkahn had darshan of Ananadamayi ma after Bhagavan's maha nirvana.  I re-collected how V Ganesan got darshan of Krishna Bhai and Nisarghadatta maharaj.


I convinced myself that there is nothing wrong in getting darshan of great Mahatmas living in one's
time period and this did not clash with following Ramana Maharirhsee in anyway.

I prayed strongly to Aruanachala Raman to grant me darshan of this Hugging saint.

I heard that Ammachi is in Mysore on Feb 2 and Feb 3rd the weekend.

I slept with huge confusion and mild fever on Feb 1st Friday night wondering if it is proper for me to
go there to Mysore camp and get her darshan.

On Feb 2nd morning 4 AM when I woke up,  mind was very clear and very auspicious omen started within me to urge me to go there.  At the same time I was a bit tired and so decided to start only by 9 AM.

Praying to Aruanchala photo,  I immediately called taxi and booked at 8:45 AM to rush to Mysore to
avoid any waste of time in bus journey.

The tax arrvied at my house in Bangalroe at 8:45 AM sharply.  I offered prayers to Arunachala Ramana and Saradamma and started reading Eka Sloki of Bhagavan during the taxi journey.

I reached the Mysore Ashram at Bogadi at around 12:45 PM.

I enquired at the helpdesk and was kindly directed towards cloak room to keep my bags.  Meanwhile Amma had already arrived and conducting bhajan at the tented hall.  I had a distant darshan first and went to unload my buggage in claok room.

I received the darshan token and then slowly made my way into the tented bhajan hall and found a seat 15 row of charis behind her stage.

Ammachi did wonderful bhajan,  sometimes laughed and cried.   Then she did manasa puja and asked all to participae thinking of their favourite deity during the pooja.


I visualized that I do manasa puja to my Guru during the manasa puja instructions from  her.   
Later Grand Arathi was performed to her by nine ladies in traditional sareers with flowers.

Ammachi threw the flowers back at the ladies and was all the time smiling peculiarly during Arathi
performance.

It is already 2 PM now and the hugging darshan started,  It started with A1 to A5, B1 to B5 tokens
etc.

Mine is Z4.  I asked the volunteers and they told it will be around 11 PM in the night.  It was going to be a long wait.

As hugging started,  they played various bhajans and few dance performances of Mahishashura Mardhini in the stage.

Later,  they played various bhajans and tours of Ammachi in the big digital screens.  The hugging
continued all the time.

I had one privilege from 3 PM.  Many crowds dispersed and  the front row seats are now vacant.

I went to the secod row and occupied a seat very close to the stage where the hugging is going on.   I could see Ammachi directly and also close view in digital screen.  But the queue is arragned in such a way that I could not go for hugging until my token is displayed.


After spending some time,  I purchased few books so that I read about Her in the remaining waiting

time.

I quote few chapters I read about Her.

Her biography is wonderful. 


Born to poor,low caste fishermen,  Ammachi did not cry immediately after birth but smiled warmly.
Parents had many visions in dreams before her Birth.

She has gone through so many harassments,  many busy household chores from morning to night,  the burden to take care of younger brothers,  the burden to take grass to cattle etc. etc. etc.

From monring to night,  no time left for her.  Yet her lips always chanted her beloved God Krishna.

She faced deep harassment from her own elder brother Subhagan and even from her parents sometimes.

Their attempts to get her married were failures and one astrologer severly late warned them of the
consequences when she is given in marriage.

Ammachi started consoling people from all walks of life from the age of 16.

She engaged them in Krishna bhakthi and whenever Bhagavtam is recited,  her own body truned dark blue colour and she verily became Krishna.

Like alost every saint,  even she had a death experience or nirvikalpa samadhi experience.

Once her father totally dejected by her daughter's madness of devotion wanted the spirit from her body to leave at once.   He approached her daughter ammachi herself and prayed for the same.

Hid idea is that her daughter is merely possessed by some mad spirit.

Moments later,  the heart beat stopped,  and Ammachi's body became paralyzed.

All devotees who came for satsang strated crying and 8 hours passed this way.  Finally  after her
father's repeated apology and his vow to give her daughter to Divine scheme of things,  heart beat
revived.

Ammachi had eaten COW Dung,tea leaves broken glass pieces and rolled off in sands crying 'Krishna Krishna' during her sadhana days.

Her divine madness is incomparable.

Like this the story goes. 

One should read her story to learn what is pure bhakthi and surrender.

So I spent hours and hours sitting very close to her and reading the books,  meditating and hearing the bhajan .


I wondered that people from all walks of life,  poor, rich,  handicap,  untouchables,  orthodox ,
unorthodox etc. everyone lined up for her hugging.
Handicaps were given immediate darshan and  hugging without waiting in token queue.

Ammachi never even stood up from her seat and continued hugging from 2 PM till 1 AM next day.

My turn came on 11 PM that day.  I was in the queue ,  by this time very tired in body and mind.

When I went to her,  i told in tammil to this effect, 'Amma I am sorry,  give me siva bhakthi'

She accepted my sorry by nodding her head.  Later she hugged me keeping my heard under her chest and whisphered a phrase three times in Malayalam.

She is famous for giving mantra diksha during hugging. But I did not know the meaning of that phrase. 

Later I asked two people who knew malayalam and found that it is not a mantra,  it meant 'my darling pearl like son'

I bowed once again and booked another taxi and came back to Bangalore.

There were huge arrangements for free food, paid tiffins,  sleeping dormitories,  toilets,  mobile
medical camps,  paid fresh fruit juices,  trasnport arrangement for poor villagers from rural areas to
the mysore ashram,  information on free hospitals and other charitable activities etc.

Ammachi's social service activities and initiatives were magnificient and in large scale.

To give hugging for around 15 hours a day without a break and to work without any tiredness,  I feel one should have got the inner command from Ishwara. 






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Re: Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 06:58:42 AM »
Krishna,
Amma is indeed a Great soul and you are blessed to have had her Darshan.Did she say 'ponnu mavane'?
There is no conflict of loyalties(as imagined by the mind) in having darshan of Great ones.All are manifestations of one God only.
Namaskar.

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Re: Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 10:21:35 AM »
Dear Krishna,

It was nice to read about the sense of urgency with which you visited. A few steps taken with intensity and sense of urgency often create breakthroughs whose effects may not be perceptable immediately but after many years.
Homage to the Universal Being...Om Shanti ... Om Shanti ... Om Shanti ...

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Re: Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 12:50:45 PM »
Dear Udai

First of all,  I was surprised to get a reply from you
in this thread.

Please find my answers. I am not angry at you though the lines may indicate the same.

1. When Self is not physical , what significance does the physical hugging have ?

No effect at all.   
2. What did you gain by meeting Mother ? You have spent a lot of time and efforts to meet her.

No gain at all.  I did not go to NSE or BSE stock exchange for a gain.  It is a darshan of a saint.


3. What are you really attracted by ? The story of Mother, her Presence, the Hug or Her accepting you ?

I was attracted by all of the above.   There is no question of accepting by Her. Because nobody is ever rejected any time.


4. How does sitting physically near Mother or far from her matter ? Is physical proximity really a point of consideration in spiritual sadhana ?

No it does not matter,  this physical proximity.  It is equally true that , sitting in Bangalore in the home over the weekend is also not any better than sitting ner her presence.  Spending in cabs and the associated other expenses also not anymore different than saving money.

Well, I did not go expecting some miracle or some peculiar
state.  I respect great saints living in my time period. 

I felt I need to get her darshan once,  yes physical darshan and hugging.

So I went.

True,  I spent lot of time sitting in the chairs and listening to bhajans.

I was not abiding in 'I am' or effortless Self awareness.

And I feel there is really nothing worth noting or taking from these type of darshans
to sadhaks like you.

Probably I am not so advanced in sadhana like you,  which I know very clearly.

Self help is the best help is your doctrine.

For me my little self never offers best help.

Let me dwell in this mud of physical darshan , sittig for saint's darshan hours together
and forever dwell in ignorance --  if that is what Maha Maya is expressing through me,  I bow
my head and accept it.






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Re: Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 01:16:51 PM »
Friends,
An excerpt from The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna:

Master:"Once a holy man came to the bank of the Ganges and lived near the bathing-ghat at
Ariadaha, not far from Dakshineswar. We thought of paying him a visit. I said to Haladhari:
'Krishnakishore and I are going to see a holy man. Will you come with us?' Haladhari
replied, 'What is the use of seeing a mere human body, which is no better than a cage of
clay?' Haladhari was a student of the Gita and Vedanta philosophy, and therefore referred
to the holy man as a mere 'cage of clay'. I repeated this to Krishnakishore. With great anger
he said: 'How impudent of Haladhari to make such a remark! How can he ridicule as a
"cage of clay" the body of a man who constantly thinks of God, who meditates on Rama,
and has renounced all for the sake of the Lord? Doesn't he know that such a man is the
embodiment of Spirit?' He was so upset by Haladhari's remarks that he would turn his face
away from him whenever he met him in the temple garden, and stopped speaking to him".

Namaskar.

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Re: Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 01:33:49 PM »
udai,
I have amply made myself clear earlier.I do not intend wasting time with you here.If you have anything to share,I suggest that you stick to your threads rather than disturb the Faith of other sincere Sadhaks,whenever they share something with which you do not resonate.The passage from The Gospel is very relevant to whatever you have began to rake here and it will be of some help to a few who are receptive.
Namaskar.

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Re: Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 01:36:17 PM »
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Further how do we know she is realized saint of our times ? Please tell me !
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Udai,


You are very learned and probably already realized.  But dont put all these doubts in the open forum.

If you feel she is fake,  take it that way and move ahead ignoring her.  Your matter of belief or non belief does not affect Her knowledge anyway.

I really dont enjoy these type of assessments of saints.

We need to first put our collar down.

When somebody (Anil i think) replied very harsly to you,  you took it very personally and started a voting process.

But you dont realize that you sometimes hurt people , assess and comment on other saints unwarranted and criticize bhakthi yoga so severely.

I dont think this attitude is going to help anybody.

You can simply assume that we were all just passing time in Mysore ashram just singing some anthakshari or playing with technology and living in dream world.   Just like a outing to a picnic spot.
As simple as that.   

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Re: Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2013, 01:46:12 PM »
Dear Krishnan,

I am for one who has not heard much about Saint Ammachi. I saw advts. in Bangalore about her arrival and stay here.
But, at the same time, I never, never criticize any saints and their pattern of giving grace. All saints/gurus are equal.
One may be attracted by A and another by B. That is all.  There is nothing like A is greater than B and so on.
Self is no doubt the  Inner Guru but we all, ordinary mortals, need a physical guru too. There is nothing wrong. One according
to inclination seeks a particular guru.

Arunachala Siva.     

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Re: Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 07:50:03 AM »
Friends,
Here is an excerpt from Talks(Talk 285) with Sri Ramana Maharshi:

D.: Why does not Sri Bhagavan go about and preach the Truth to the
people at large?
M.: How do you know that I am not doing it? Does preaching consist
in mounting a platform and haranguing to the people around?
Preaching is simple communication of knowledge. It may be
done in Silence too.
What do you think of a man listening to a harangue for an hour and
going away without being impressed by it so as to change his life?
Compare him with another who sits in a holy presence and leaves
after some time with his outlook on life totally changed. Which
is better: To preach loudly without effect or to sit silently sending
forth intuitive forces to play on others?
Again how does speech arise? There is abstract knowledge
(unmanifest). From it there rises the ego which gives rise to thoughts
and words successively. So then(The order is mentioned-Ravi):
                                        Abstract Knowledge
                                                     
                                                    Ego

                                                 Thoughts
                                                   
                                                    Words

Words are therefore the great grandson of the original source. If
words can produce an effect, how much more powerful should the
preaching through silence be? Judge for yourself
.

Namaskar.

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Re: Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 08:08:12 AM »
Friends,

I thought that i should address this question,as I have seen this elsewhere as well.

"When Self is not physical, what significance does the physical hugging have ? "

Who says that 'Self is not physical'?Certainly not the Self;Nor the physical.
It is one's mind that creates all these distinctions in trying to understand what it sees and in its attempt to go behind and beyond what it sees.As long as it distinguishes between the Self and the Physical,all these outward forms of reaching out are valid and have their effectiveness.
Instead of trying to learn from others,why not set aside our superciliousness and just go and find out for oneself with an open mind?We may then come to understand and benefit directly without having to depend on another.

Namaskar.

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Re: Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 08:14:32 AM »
Friends,

"
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For example, if to me, saint means he should have a beard like Ramakrishna and walk in that intoxicated way when he hears rama nama... a mithun chakrobarthy acting like Ramakrishna may make me shed tears and land me in a "deep sort of" spiritual experience !! But is it really spiritual ? Because, my expectations are met and my mind took some shape ... when expectations dont meet, mind takes soem otehr shape ... am i not still identified with my mental states ?


One needs to go deeper than these superficial observances to understand a devotee and what genuine devotion is all about.One has to first find it in oneself and then it is possible to recognize such a thing in others.

Namaskar.

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Re: Darshan of the Hugging Saint Ammachi
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2013, 10:38:35 AM »
udai,
Well,my posts are addressed in a general way as the questions and issues are not just raised by you but are encountered in other places as well.Right now i have some time to waste;will do so in the Rough Note book thread.
Namaskar.