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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #75 on: February 11, 2013, 10:52:42 AM »
202.  LOVE FOR ANIMALS:

At 3 O clock this afternoon, while we were discussing something in Sri Bhagavan's Presence, a stranger came to the
Asramam with a platter full of fruits. It seems that on the way to the Hall, some monkey came, snatched some of the fruits,
and escaped. Hearing the noise outside and realizing what had happened, Bhagavan laughingly said that the monkey took
away its portion of the fruit as it was afraid we would not otherwise give it. We all laughed.

While this was going on, a female monkey with a babe at her breast, approached the fruit basket. People near the basket
shouted its way. Bhagavan said, 'It is a mother with a child. Why not give her something and send her away?' But He was
not sufficiently audible, and so the monkey got frightened, went off and hid herself in a tree. Bhagavan full of pity and kindness,
said, "Is this fair? We call ourselves sannyasins. But when a real sannyasi comes, we drive him without giving him anything. How
unfair? We want to eat for years and live. We store things in a room, lock it and keep the keys with us. Has the monkey got a house?
Can it put anything by for the morrow? It eats whatever it can get and sleeps on whatever tree available. It carries the child under
its belly, wherever it goes, until the child is able to walk about, when it leaves the child to itself. Who is a real sannyasi, the monkey
or ourselves? That is why the male monkey took its share on the way itself. That was a male and could do it with impunity. This is
a female. What can she do?"

So saying, Bhagavan began calling the monkey cajoling. The monkey came on to the side of the couch and stood there. In an endearing
manner, Bhagavan gave her all the fruits she wanted and sent her away.

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #76 on: February 12, 2013, 10:36:21 AM »
203.  WHAT IS HAPPINESS?

Taking up the thread of conversation (reg: whether wheat is good or rice is good for Sri Bhagavan),  another devotee said:
'Our only anxiety is that Sri Bhagavan's body should be healthy.'

Bhagavan: "Yes. It is true. But what is health and what is happiness? does happiness consist in eating only? Take the case of
a Maharaja. Everyday he has rich and delicious food cooked for him. But he is always sick; always suffers from indigestion. He
has not taste for food. He cannot digest what he eats and suffers from stomach ache also. He can't sleep, even though he has a
fine cot, nice silk curtains and soft cushioned bedding. What is the use? He is always worried about one thing or another. A coolie
is happier than that king. He eats and drinks whatever he can afford and sleeps soundly without any worries. As ye works with
the sweat of his brow he gets first class appetite. With that appetite he relishes food like nectar even if he takes only gruel. He
has nothing to lay by for the morrow and so he has no worries about safeguarding his belongings. He lies down comfortably under
some tree or other and enjoys sound sleep."       

The devotee said, 'But then he does not think that he is a happy man.'

Bhagavan: "That is the trouble with the world. The one who sleeps under the tree looks at the palaces and mansions and regrets
that he does not have those pleasures. But he is the really happy man.  Once I saw a coolie here. Till noon he was doing hard
labor by digging the earth and throwing it on the road. He was sweating profusely all the time and was tired. He became hungry.
He washed his legs, hands and face in the tank, sat on a slab and opened the pot containing his food. It was full of cooked rice, with
a little soup sprinkled on it. He took out three handfuls of that rice and swallowed it with evident relish. Nothing was left over. He
washed the pot, drank some water, and dozed away under the tree, with one of his arms serving as a pillow. I then felt that he was
really a happy man. If one eats just to live, everything one eats gives strength. It is only when you live to eat that you become sick."

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #77 on: February 13, 2013, 10:17:34 AM »
205.  ASTROLOGY:

A few days ago, an astrologer came here. At about 10 am. the day after his arrival, he asked Bhagavan several questions on
astrology and obtained suitable replies. I give below a brief report of their conversation:

Q!: Swami ! According to astrological science, predictions are made about coming events, taking into account the influence
of the stars. Is that true?

Bhagavan: So long as you have the feeling of egoism all this is true. When that egoism gets destroyed all that is untrue.

Q: Does it mean that astrology won't be true in case of of those whose egoism is destroyed?

Bhagavan: Who is there to say it won't be true? There will be seeing only if there is one who sees. In the case of those whose
egoism is destroyed, even if they appear to see they do not really see. The window is open. Even so there must be one to see.
Does the window see anything?

Q: If that ego were not there, how could the body continue to function from day to day?

Bhagavan: Yes. That is it, The body is a house for us. This house will be properly maintained only if you are in it. Hence we must
realize that we are keeping the house habitable only so long as we are in it and must never give up the knowledge that the house
is separate from the Self. The moment that is forgotten the feeling of ego comes in and troubles begin. Everything in the world
thus appears real and the destruction of that feeling is the destruction of the ego. When that ego is destroyed nothing of this world
is real. What is to happen will happen and what is not to happen will not happen.

Q: You say that what is to happen will happen and what is not to happen will not happen. If that is so, why should it be said
that good deeds must be done?

Bhagavan: If something good is done, it results in happiness. Hence people say good deeds must be done.

Q: Yes. That is why elders say that sorrow is adventitious.

Bhagavan: That is so. Sorrow is adventitious. It is only happiness that is natural. Every living being desires happiness because
his natural state is the embodiment of happiness. All sadhanas are for overcoming adventitious sorrow. ..........

Q: Is it possible to get immediate results by sadhana?

Bhagavan: Some yield immediate results and some do not. That depends upon the intensity or otherwise of the sadhana.

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2013, 10:45:32 AM »
206. Atma Bodha and Life on the Hill:

Recently Sri Bhagavan Himself changed the verses of Atma Bodha which are in Venba meter into the Kalivenba meter by writing
them afresh. As they have now been printed in a book form, that since been the topic of frequent discussions in Sri Bhagavan's
presence.

Sri Bhagavan said: Once we started to go the summit of the Hill, with all the necessary things for cooking our food and eating
it whenever and wherever convenient. That was when we were in Virupaksha Cave..... By the time we reached Seven Ponds
(Ezhu Chunai) it was rather hot. So we bathed and then wanted to cook our food. We took out the cooking vessels and all the
food stuffs, such as dhal, salt and ghee and also arranged the fireplace. Then we found that we had not taken the most important
thing of all, namely matchbox.  The cave was too far away to go and fetch a matchbox. Everyone was terribly hungry. Some tried
to make fire by striking one piece of flint against another but without success. Some tried to rub one piece of wood against another
as they do in Yagnas for lighting the sacrificial fire, but that too was not successful. The second verse in Atma Bodha came to my mind,
namley:

"Just as you cannot cook whatever articles you may have unless you have fire, so also you cannot attain liberation unless you
have Jnana."     

After that, through some grass cutters, word was sent to Pazhaniswami who was in the cave and match box was fetched.

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #79 on: February 15, 2013, 10:43:33 AM »

208. Sadhu Sangam:

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Bhagavan related an incident that had occurred many years before.

It was in those days, that Chellamma came to me with a paper in her hand. When I looked at it out of curiosity, I found written
on it the following sloka in Sanskrit:

tr. If association with sages is obtained, to what purpose are the various methods of self discipline? Tell me, of what use
is a fan when the cool gentle south wind is blowing?

I translated it into Tamizh in verse form beginning with Sadhu sangathAl. Subsequently it was included in the Supplement
to Forty Verses, Verse 3.

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #80 on: February 16, 2013, 12:55:21 PM »
192. Embodiment of Compassion:

As the summer has set in, Bhagavan has started staying all the time in the Jubliee Hall only. At midday, when it is hot, the
attendants shift the sofa to the north where is a bower with crotons on either side and sprinkle water on khus-khus tatties
that are tied around. This afternoon, I happened  to go there at about 2 O clock. Sri Bhagavan was seated with a matty cloth
over His body and His head. There was no one there except Krishnaswami. He was standing behind with a sprinkler in his hand
which appeared to be full of rose water.  He opened the screw cap. From that sprinkler the rose water was sprayed on to Sri
Bhagavan like a light shower of rain and Bhagavan was rubbing His body with evident satisfaction. When He saw me coming
He said: Look ! They are doing abhishekam to me. So saying He covered His face with that matty cloth and said, 'They have
covered me with this wet cloth. They have tied tatties all around and are sprinkling water thereon. This place is now cool
like Ootacamund.'

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #81 on: February 16, 2013, 02:27:34 PM »
Dear Sri Subramanian sir,

How sweet are words and actions of Bhagavan. When i read such stories they melt my heart. He was like some child,fully enjoying some usual things,with such innocent delight. Such a joy!

Thank You so much for these wonderful posts!

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #82 on: February 16, 2013, 03:25:22 PM »
Dear Jewell,

Sri Bhagavan used to say that a Jnani is child-like but not childish. Full of innocence but do not prank.

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #83 on: February 16, 2013, 03:40:07 PM »
Dear Sri Subramanian sir,

Yes,true. There us big difference betwean childish and child-like. But i dont know about pranks. It is the matter of some different quality. And it certainly depends what kind of pranks. Like in Krishna case.

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #84 on: February 17, 2013, 12:51:17 PM »
227. ALL TAMASIC ARTICLES ARE FORBIDDEN FOR SADHAKAS:

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Devotee: Are not horseradish (muLLangi) and drumsticks also forbidden (apart from onions, garlics etc.,) for sadhakas?

Bhagavan: Yes. Watermelon, horseradish, drumsticks, onions and  other similar vegetables are forbidden. The mind will be
clear and pure depending on the sort of food one eats, sattvic, or otherwise. If one overeats Sambhar, rasam, and boiled
vegetables one will have to belch Ho Ho and Ha, Ha and get worried about digesting it. If, however, one eats sattvic food
with only one side dish, one digests it easily and will be happy. Who pays attention to such advice.

Devotee :  Why do they not pay attention? It is rather strange.

Bhagavan: That is a fact. Nobody heeds such advice. Everyone says  he must bring for Sri Bhagavan laddoos and jielbis but no
one says rice and pepper water are better for Swami. They bring them all for Swami. But why does Swami require all these things?

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« Reply #85 on: February 18, 2013, 01:32:13 PM »
193. The Deliverance of Cow Lakshmi:

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Ten minutes later, Bhagavan came into the shed saying, 'Is it all over?' and squatted by her side, took her face in both His
hands as though she were a little child, and lifted it and said: Oh Lakshmi, Lakshmi'. and then to us, controlling His tears,
He said, 'Because of her, our family (the Asramam) has grown to this extent.'

When all were praising Lakshmi, Bhagavan asked, 'I suppose the doctor has not troubled her much, did he? How did her life
cease? We told him all that had happened. 'That is all right. Did you notice this? The right ear is uppermost now. Till yesterday
she was lying down on her other side. So this ear had to come up. Look, in the case of people, who die n Kasi, people say Lord
Siva will whisper into the right ear.  Lakshmi too has her right year up.' said Bhagavan, and showed that ear to all people there.

By that time, crowds gathered. After a quarter of an hour, Bhagavan got up and said, 'Ramakrishna Swami has been saying that
for the last ten days that a good Samadhi must be built for Lakshmi.'  Bhagavan then went away to the Hall.

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« Reply #86 on: February 19, 2013, 10:56:03 AM »
196. DELIVERANCE TO A THORN BUSH:

One of the devotees who yesterday heard the verse written by Sri Bhagavan about the deliverance of Lakshmi (Cow), approached
Him this morning, and said, 'Swami, we ourselves see that animals and birds are getting deliverance in your presence. But is it not
true that only human beings can get moksha?'

'Why? It is stated that a Mahapurusha gave moksha to a thorn bush', said Sri Bhagavan with a smile. The devotee eagerly asked
who that great saint was and what was the story about the thorn bush.  Bhagavan then related this story.

In Chidambaram, there was a Jnani by the name of Umapathi Sivacharya. He was a poet and also a pandit. As he was in an
extraordinary state of spirituality, he did not pay much attention to the usual Brahmanical practices. Hence the pandits of the place
became angry with him, especially since he was a learned man and knew all the precepts of the Hindu religion. They forbade him
from living in the town or even visiting the temple. He therefore lived in a small hut built on a raised ground outside he town. A low
caste man called Pethan Samban used to supply him with all that he required and also help him in a general way. As things went on
like this, one day, when that Pethan was carrying on his head a  bundle of firewood to the hut of Dikshita, Iswara Himself met him
on the way in the guise of the Dikshita, in charge of the temple, wrote a verse on a palmrya leaf, gave it to him telling him that it was
to be handed over to Umapathi Sivacharya, who on opening it, found in the first line itself the words, Adiyarkadiyen Chitrambalavanan --
the servant of the devotees, the Lord of Chidambaram. Immediately, he was overwhelmed with devotion and a thrill passed through
his body as he read the letter. The gist of the verse was: 'A note from Chitrambalanathan - the servant of the devotees - to the person
who has set up a new establishment, namely Sivacharya. It is your duty to give initiation to this Pethan Samban regardless of the caste
and to the surprise of all people.'       

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #87 on: February 20, 2013, 10:48:59 AM »
196. Deliverance to a thorn bush:

contd.,

'He read the letter and was overwhelmed with joy. In obedience to the orders of the Lord, he initiated Pethan, though he belonged
to the lowest caste and in due course gave nayana diksha (transmission of power through the eyes) to Pethan. Immediately
after which Pethan vanished into holy light,

'Enemies of Sivacharya noiced the sacrificial offerings and other things he was having for his initiation and complained to the King
that Sivacharya had burnt Pethan to death for some mistake that Pethan might have committed. When the King came there with
his retinue to enquire into the complaint,  Sivacharya showed the verse of Lord Nataraja and said that he gave initiation to Pethan
and that Pethan vanished thereafter in the form of a divine light (jyoti). The  King was surprised and asked Sivacharya if he could likewise give initiation and moksha to the thorn bush nearby. 'Yes, what doubt is there?' said Sivacharya.

Accordingly he gave nayana diksha to that thorn bush and that too immediately disappeared in Pure Light.

'The King was still more astonished at that and said, 'This looks like some black magic. You said that this note had been written
by Lord Nataraja. Let us go and ask Him.'

Sivacharya pointed out  that there was a ban on his entering the temple. The king said that would not matter as he himself was
accompanying Sivacharya. Accordingly, they started for the temple together. Hearing all this, all the people --- the pundits, common
people curious about the whole thing and the enemies of Sivacharya who were sure that he would be duly punished --- flocked
to the temple to see the strange sight. The two entered the temple and out of regard for the King, arti was offered to Lord Nataraja.
It was then found that on either side of the Lord, stood Pethan and the thorn bush!  The pundits were surprised and, out of fear
and remorse, fell at the feet of Sivacharya, requesting him to pardon them for all their faults.  They subsequently brought him back
into the town with due honors. This story is found is Chidambara Mahatmyam.'

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #88 on: February 21, 2013, 01:36:24 PM »
209.  Bhiksha in Agraharam:

From 2.30 pm. this afternoon was telling about the happenings of the early days of His coming to Tiruvannamalai. It was 3 O'clock.
Gambhiram Kuppanna Sastri brought a marriage  invitation card. gave it to Bhagavan, and prostrated before Him. After talking to
Him for a while about the marriage, Bhagavan looked at us and said: It seems the grand daughter of Gambhiram Seshayyar is
going o be married. This is the invitation card. 

'Is that so?' I said. With a smile Sri Bhagavan inquired 'Do you know why these people get their surname Gambhiram?'
'I do not know', I said.

Bhagavan: These people belong to the family of Akkanna and Madanna. Gambhiram is the title given to his ministers Akkaanna
and Madanna,  by the Golkonda Rulers. That has become surname now.,

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I went one night (during the early years) to the Agraharam for alms and I called at Krishna Iyer's house. He was playing cards at
that time seated on a mat with three others and before a candle light. When I clapped my hands, they were startled. Krishna
Iyer felt ashamed, hurriedly removed all the paraphernalia of the cards, mixed some rice and gave me eyes At that time, I did not
know who they were. After Seshayyar came here, he told that Krishna Iyer was his brother.

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Re: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam:
« Reply #89 on: February 22, 2013, 12:38:33 PM »
108.  A BOUQUET OF PRECEPTS:

Yesterday morning, a group of Andhras arrived, and started questioning Bhagavan within 10 minutes of their arrival.

Q: Bhagavan teaches us always to know ourselves. He should kindly teach us how to know ourselves and bless us.

Bhagavan:  The kindness is always there.  You should ask for something that is not there, and not for something that is
already there.  You should believe with all your heart that kindness is there.  That is all.

Another said:  In the Vedic recitations that are conducted here daily, they say, 'thasya sikhaya madhye paramatma vyavasthitha.'
What is 'sikhaya madhye' means in the middle of the summit of the fire' and not 'in the tuft of the hair of the Vedas.'  It means
that the Paramatma resides in the center of the fire of Knowledge that is generated by the churning of the Vedas.'

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Q: The expression 'hridaya granthi bhedanam' occurs in Sri Ramana Gita. What is meant by it?

Bhagavan: That is what I say, 'going away', 'exit', 'extinction of all vasanas', 'destruction of the mind' 'I', 'destruction of jivathva
and so many other names, mean the same thing --- mano nasanam is hridya granthi bhedanam.

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