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« Reply #1170 on: March 13, 2015, 10:41:13 AM »
Dr. Masalavala, Retired Chief Medical Officer of Bhopal, who has been here for more than a month now and who is now
also in temporary charge of the Asramam Hospital in the absence of Dr. Srinivasa Rao, put the following questions to
Sri Bhagavan and got the following answers:

Question: Bhagavan says, 'The influence of the Jnani steals into the devotee in silence.'  Bhagavan also says, 'Contact
with great men, exalted souls, is one efficacious means of realizing one's true being.'

Bhagavan: Yes. What is the contradiction?  Jnani, great men, exalted souls -- does he differentiate between these?

Thereupon I said,'No.'

Bhagavan: Contact with them is good.  They will work through silence.  By speaking, there is reduced.  Silence is most
powerful. Speech is always less powerful than silence. So mental contact is the best.

Question: Does this hold even after the dissolution of the physical body of the Jnani or is it true only so long as he is
in flesh and blood?

Bhagavan: Guru is not the physical form. So contact will remain even after the physical form of the Guru vanishes.

Day by Day - 9.3.1946.

Arunachala Siva.   
         

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« Reply #1171 on: March 13, 2015, 03:46:17 PM »
Another visitor asked Bhagavan: Is there any difference between the mind and the Self?

Bhagavan: There is no difference. The mind turned inwards is the Self. Turned outwards, it becomes the ego and the
world.  The cotton made into various clothes, we call by various names.The gold made into various ornaments,
we call by various names.  But all clothes are cotton and all the ornaments are gold.The One is real, the many are
names and forms.

But the mind does not exist apart from the Self.i.e. it has no independent existence.  The Self exists without the mind, never
the mind without the Self.

Day by Day - 11.1.1946.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #1172 on: March 14, 2015, 08:11:35 AM »
Dilip  Kumar Roy read out another poem composed by him on Bhagavan. Then he sang a few songs. Then he asked Bhagavan:
'What is the best way of killing the ego?'

Bhagavan: To each person that way is the best which appears easiest or appeals most.All the ways are equally good,
as they lead to the same goal,which is the merging of the ego in the Self.  What the bhakta calls surrender, the man who
does Vichara calls Jnana.  Both are trying only to take the ego back to the Source from which it sprang and make it merge there.'

Roy:  'But which is the best way for me? Bhagavan must know.'  Bhagavan did not reply.

(This is only usual with Bhagavan.He leaves it to each devotee to find out what Sadhana appears most easy to him.)

Day by Day 2.11.1945.

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« Reply #1173 on: March 14, 2015, 08:15:01 AM »
Mr. Roy sang a few songs.At the end he asked Bhagavan: 'Music also helps one to develop bhakti, does it not?'

Bhagavan: Yes, Yes.

When Roy was taking leave, he asked Bhagavan when bhakti marga could be followed with advantage and whether it
will lead to Jnana.

Bhagavan: Yes. Yes. Bhakti is Jnana maatha i.e.the mother of Jnana.

Day by Day 2.11.1945- afternoon.

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« Reply #1174 on: March 14, 2015, 08:20:46 AM »
A visitor :  'I don't know what Kundalini is.'

Bhagavan:  Kundalini is one name given by the yogic people for what may be called the Atma Sakti inside the body. The Vichara
school calls the same power Jnana. The bhakta calls it love or bhakti. The yogic school says that this power is dormant in
mooladhara at the base of the spinal chord and that it must be aroused and taken through the various chakras on to
Sahasrara at the top in the brain to attain Moksha.  The Jnanis think this power is centered in the Heart, and so on.

Day by Day - 11.11.1945 - Evening.

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« Reply #1175 on: March 14, 2015, 08:25:17 AM »
Bhagavan was explaining pratyabhijna.

Pratyabhijna = prati + abhijna

abhijna is direct perception. Prati is to be reminded of what was already known.

'This is an elephant' - direct perception.

'This is that elephant' is pratyabhijna.

In technical works pratyabhijna is used for realizing the everlasting Reality and recognizing it.

Sunya (void) ati sunya ( beyond sunya) and maha sunya (immense void) - all mean the same i.e. Real Being only.

Talks No. 333.

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« Reply #1176 on: March 14, 2015, 08:28:59 AM »
Devotee:  How will the sexual impulse cease to be?

Maharshi:  When differentiation ceases.

Devotee: How can it be effected?

Maharshi: The other sex and its relation are only mental concepts.  The Upanishad says that all are dear because the Self
is beloved of all. One's happiness is within.The love is of the Self only.  It is only within. Do not think it to be without.
Then differentiation ceases to operate.

Talks No. 335.

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« Reply #1177 on: March 14, 2015, 08:34:46 AM »
Mr. K.R.V. Iyer: How is the mind to be purified?

Maharshi:  The sastras  say: By karma, bhakti and so on'.  My attendant asked the same question once before.  He was told,
'By karma dedicated to God.'  It is not enough that one thinks of God while doing the karma.  But one must continually and
unceasingly think of Him. Then alone will the mind become pure.

The attendant applies it to himself and says: It is not enough that I serve Bhagavan physically. But  I must unceasingly
remember Him.'

To another person who asked the same question, Bhagavan said: Quest of the Self meaning 'I am the body' must vanish.
Atma Vichara = disappearance of dehatma buddhi.

Talks No.  337.

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« Reply #1178 on: March 15, 2015, 06:11:36 AM »
Someone  inquired:  Why is it said in scriptures that the Sage is like a child?

Maharshi: A child and a Sage are similar in a way.  Incidents interest a child only so long as they last. It ceases to think
of them after  they have passed away. So  then, it is apparent that they do not leave any impression on the child and
it is not affected by them mentally.  So it is with a Sage.

Talks No. 9.

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« Reply #1179 on: March 15, 2015, 06:44:30 AM »
"Can destiny (karma) ever come to an end?"

Maharshi:  The karmas carry the seeds of their own destruction in themselves.

Talks No. 11.

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« Reply #1180 on: March 15, 2015, 09:42:24 AM »
A man asked the Maharshi to say something to him. When asked what he wanted to know, he said that he knew nothing and
wanted to hear something from the Maharshi.

Maharshi: You know that you know nothing. Find out  that knowledge.  That is liberation. (Mukti)

Talks.No.12.

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« Reply #1181 on: March 15, 2015, 11:03:28 AM »
A visitor from Punjab asked Bhagavan, 'When the mind or ahamkar is killed, is that stage an inert stage?

Bhagavan: Why do you bother about the Jnani's state? You understand your present state.

Visitor: The mumukshu naturally wants to know about the mukti state which is his goal.

Bhagavan kept quiet for a little while and then said, 'You admit mind has to be killed.  Why don't you do it first
and see for yourself then whether the stage is inert or without consciousness?

Visitor: When the ahamkar goes will aham vritti exist?

Bhagavan: That which is, always is. If the ahamkar dies, It,the Reality exists as it has always existed. You may
speak of it as having aham vritti or simply aham. It is always the same. That which exists is I AM or Aham.

Day by Day. 12.11.1945 Morning.

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« Reply #1182 on: March 16, 2015, 07:52:21 AM »
This morning about 6.00 AM. Vaikunta Vasar, the attendant was massaging Bhagavan's legs.  After he had been massaging
for about half an hour, Bhagavan expressed in Tamizh meaning 'I vaguely feel that something is being massaged.' This is
perhaps a glimpse into the inner life of Bhagavan. He was not in any trance or special samadhi then, but in His usual state.

Day by Day, 18.11.1945.

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« Reply #1183 on: March 16, 2015, 07:59:09 AM »
Bhagavan explained how it is said in books that the highest possible happiness, which a human being can attain or which
the ten grades of beings higher than man, ending with gods like Brahma can attain, is like foam in the deluging flood of the
Bliss of the Self.

Imagine a man in robust health of vigorous adult age, endowed with unsurpassed wealth and power, with intellect and
all other resources, and married to a fair and faithful wife, and conceive of happiness. Each higher grade of being above
man is capable of hundred fold greater happiness than that of all the eleven grades of being is only the foam in the
flooding ocean of divine bliss.

Day by Day 22.11.1945.

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« Reply #1184 on: March 16, 2015, 09:40:14 AM »
Mrs. M.A.Piggot, an English lady, who had read 'Search In Secret India' came to see the Maharshi.

'Is a Master necessary for realization?' Mrs.Piggot asked first.

Maharshi:  The realization is the result of the Master's grace more than teachings, lectures, meditation etc., They are only
secondary aids, whereas the former is the primary and the essential cause.

Devotee: What  are the obstacles which hinder realization of the Self?

Maharshi: They are habits of mind (vasanas)

Devotee:  How to overcome the mental habits(vasanas)?

Maharshi:  By realizing the Self.

Devotee:  That is a vicious circle.

Maharshi: It is the ego which raises such difficulties, creating obstacles and then suffers from the perplexity of apparent
paradoxes. Find out who makes the inquiries and the Self will be found.

Devotee:  What are the aids for realization?

Maharshi:  The teachings of the scriptures and of realized souls.

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Talks No.13 / 7th Jan. 1935.

Arunachala Siva.