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Nagaraj

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« Reply #315 on: November 25, 2012, 06:50:39 AM »
jnyAna or Bhakti, both happens only when He wills!

॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
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« Reply #316 on: November 25, 2012, 06:41:35 PM »
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

those who get converted go to the same lap of the Lord and conversion or baptism is a symbolic ritual of complete surrender or sharanagati on the Lord.



Hmmm... and if they would have stayed in the same religion (without conversion) wouldn't they have reached the same Lord !!!!!!.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

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« Reply #317 on: November 25, 2012, 06:53:32 PM »
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

those who get converted go to the same lap of the Lord and conversion or baptism is a symbolic ritual of complete surrender or sharanagati on the Lord.



Hmmm... and if they would have stayed in the same religion (without conversion) wouldn't they have reached the same Lord !!!!!!.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

I do not think i had conveyed something in that line.

॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
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« Reply #318 on: November 25, 2012, 07:07:06 PM »
and God fulfils himself in many ways lest one good custom should corrupt the world.

Alfred, Lord Tennyson

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« Reply #319 on: November 25, 2012, 07:18:29 PM »
Dear Nagaraj,

Sri Bhagavan did not say anything in support of conversion. In fact many devotees of West asked Him whether they should
get converted into Hinduism. Sri Bhagavan said: Why a true Christian can still be a good Christian and attain the Self.
So also a Moslem. So also a Parsi. Because Atma (the Self) is the same for all. Self Inquiry speaks about mind merging with
the Self and not with Jesus, or Allah or Siva.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #320 on: November 25, 2012, 08:30:59 PM »
Dear Sir,

I concur with your views. What do we know Sir what karma holds in each persons life. What can we really do, it does not befit us to go and tell somebody do not get converted or tell the converters not to convert. I truly believe in the spirit of Bhagavan's grand dictum The ordainer controls the fate of souls as per destinies, what ever is destines to happen will happen, no matter how much we may avoid it and what ever is destined not to happen will never happen no matter whatever we may try to make it happen. What is important in ones own evolution is TO COME TO TERMS WITH THE TRUTH in any way. This is all that is required. Whether anybody gets enlightened or not is not the real purpose.

But I truly believe the purpose of any religion PRIMARILY SHOULD OFFER A PERSON SOME SOLACE. If a person fails to derive Solace then there is nothing wrong in going in search for that solace, it does not mean there is some issue with any religion, but just a person chooses what is simple and conducive to ones HEART. Such a person too, is in search of truth, peace, happiness, contentment and so on.

What is conversion is truly not even a conversion! These are only sundry matter for one who gets solace! I felt more than being true christian or true hindu or a true moslim or a true buddhist, one has to be TRUE TO ONESELF, TRUE TO ONES HEART! This is the bottom line. He is neither christian hindu moslim or buddhist.

He is simply in quest for truth.

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« Reply #321 on: November 25, 2012, 09:16:48 PM »
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

those who get converted go to the same lap of the Lord and conversion or baptism is a symbolic ritual of complete surrender or sharanagati on the Lord.



Hmmm... and if they would have stayed in the same religion (without conversion) wouldn't they have reached the same Lord !!!!!!.

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

I do not think i had conveyed something in that line.



Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

No Sir, you got me wrong. I was not trying to comment on your musing. In fact I enjoy reading them. Thanks !!!.

I was in general ranting about conversion, not about your opinion about conversion

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

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« Reply #322 on: November 25, 2012, 09:23:31 PM »
Sri Swayam,

I understand :) it is the same actually, i too am just ranting, finally coming to terms after all those thoughts about conversions, multi religions etc... i am happy i found a common spirit in all, the sweetness that is the same in all sweets :) just had enough of varieties all these whiles.

Oneness is sweet.

॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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« Reply #323 on: November 26, 2012, 01:36:15 PM »
Dear Swayam, Nagaraj,


நல்கா தொழியான் நமக்கென்றும் நாமம் பிதற்றி நயனனீர்
மல்கா வாழ்த்தா வாய்குழறா வணங்கா மனத்தால் நினைந்துருகிப்
பல்காலுன்னப் பாவித்துப் பரவிப் பொன்னம் பலமென்றே
ஒல்கா நிற்கும் உயிர்க்கிரங்கி அருளாய் என்னை உடையானே. 387

திருச்சிற்றம்பலம்


What else one can do? One can keep on blabbering His name, till the mouth gets tired and goes wobbling, one can constantly
think of Him and melt. All the time there is a bhavana that there is only Ponambalam, the Golden Hall, the refuge of all,. O Lord
take pity on this jiva and grace, O My Master!

Arunachala Siva. 

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« Reply #324 on: November 27, 2012, 05:04:14 AM »
     
do not fill your heart with bitterness over things and events that went wrong.
Fill your heart with gratitude for the things and events that went right.
Forget the displeasure of being hurt by someone.
Remember those who admired you for your goodness.

Repay any good you received from anyone with gratitude and more good.
Every moment is a thanksgiving moment.


(Swami Sivananda)

॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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« Reply #325 on: November 27, 2012, 07:05:44 AM »
Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

Thank you Sir. Timely one !!

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

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« Reply #326 on: November 27, 2012, 02:02:14 PM »
stray thought...

live life in a manner that leaves very little room for regret.

॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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« Reply #327 on: November 27, 2012, 02:11:01 PM »
Dear Nagaraj, and others,


கொள்ளார் பிளவக லாத்தடங் கொங்கையர் கொவ்வைச்செவ்வாய்
விள்ளேன் எனினும் விடுதிகண்டாய் விழுத்தொழுப்பின்
உள்ளேன் புறமல்லேன் உத்தர கோசமங் கைக்கரசே
கள்ளேன் ஒழியவும் கண்டுகொண்டாண்டதெக் காரணமே. 106

காருறு கண்ணியர் ஐம்புலன் ஆற்றங் கரைமரமாய்
வேருறு வேனை விடுதிகண்டாய் விளங்குந்திருவார்
ஊருறை வாய்மன்னும் உத்தரகோசமங்கைக் கரசே
வாருறு பூண்முலை யாள்பங்க என்னை வளர்ப்பவனே. 107


Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #328 on: November 27, 2012, 02:33:33 PM »
Dear Sir,

Request to kindly provide a brief english translation :)


॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
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« Reply #329 on: November 27, 2012, 02:36:32 PM »
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


William Butler Yeats

॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta