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Re: Quotes of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
« Reply #255 on: January 11, 2013, 10:44:08 AM »
Nisargadatta Maharaj:

The Real does not die. The unreal never lived.

Once you know that death happens to the body and not to you, you just watch your body falling off like a discarded
garment.

The Real You is timeless and beyond birth and death. The body will survive as long as it is needed. It is not important
that it should live long.   

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« Reply #256 on: January 12, 2013, 12:57:38 AM »
Identify yourself with the highest
principle in you which is the knowledge
‘I am’. This will elevate you to the status
of ‘Brihaspati’ – the guru of gods.
Become completely one with the indwelling
knowledge ‘I am’, it is the highest possible
principle in you. First you must be able to see very
clearly that there something called the knowledge
‘I am’ in you - that is, you have not only to spot it,
but understand it in its totality. Then comes
‘Sadhana’ (practice), where you begin abiding in
the ‘I am’, and this, in its acute phase, results in
your becoming one with the ‘I am’, then only the ‘I
am’ remains and nothing else. The Guru says that
this will elevate you to the highest possible status,
which he calls ‘Brihaspati’, meaning the greatest
Guru, the Guru of Gods.

This knowingness ‘I am’ which
came spontaneously and you felt
gradually, is the ignorant-child-principle,
the ‘Balkrishna’ state.
The Guru now calls the ‘I am’, which
spontaneously appeared on you, the ignorant-child
principle or ‘Balkrishna’ state. This adds more to
your understanding of the ‘I am’. Indeed, when the
knowledge ‘I am’ dawned on you it was a state
complete ignorance. You did not know what this
sense of ‘being’ was and what to make of it. You
knew only two states, those of ‘I am’ and ‘I am
not’, which alternated on their own.

This ‘I am’ or Balkrishna state has
great potential. Here ‘Bal’ means the
child food body and ‘Krishna’ means
‘non-knowing’.
The Guru further goes on to explain this
ignorantchild principle or the Balkrishna state, which is
nothing else but the ‘I am’, as having great
potential. Why so? Because it is the primary
concept or illusion on which is constructed
everything else about you and your life. And, not
only you, but this ‘I am’ has created the entire
universe or cosmos. In its absence none of these exist.
‘Bal’ means the child food body, which also
implies strength or power and ‘Krishna’ means
‘non-knowing’, which implies not knowing its own
strength. This Balkrishna is very powerful and its
potential for creation is enormous, just like the
small seed that is quite unaware of its potential for
creating a large banyan tree.

To do away with body-mind sense or
identity, imbibe or dwell in the ‘I am’.
Later the ‘I am’ will merge into the
ultimate nature.
When the ‘I am’ dawned on you, in its very early
stages it did not identify with the body. You will
have to apply your mind, go back, and try to
recollect that phase when only the pure ‘I am’
existed with no adjuncts. It is much later and very
gradually that the ‘I am’ starts identifying with the
body initially, and mind also, together with time.
All this occurs with you yourself being quite
unaware of it; parents, teachers, friends, relatives
and surroundings contribute to the process and
strengthen the verbal ‘I am’- resulting in a well
developed, so-called ‘personality’. If you are lucky
enough, at some stage of your life, you will come
across the right Guru who will point out the fallacy
of this mistaken identity.
He now explains this knowledge ‘I am’ to you
 and asks you to abide in
it, to do away with the body-mind sense or your
present identity. By and by a moment will come
when the ‘I am’ will merge into your true ultimate
nature.

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« Reply #257 on: January 13, 2013, 02:12:47 AM »

The highest type of rest is when ‘I
am’ and ‘I am not’ are both forgotten. It
is called ‘Param Vishranti’, which also
means total rest, complete relaxation or
utter quietude in the highest state.
The word ‘rest’ has to be understood in its highest
sense where you don’t have rest for a certain
period of time, but are eternally at rest. This state
has been called as ‘Param Vishranti’, or the
highest and final rest. In this state both the ‘I am’
and ‘I am not’ are forgotten. They are, in fact,
aspects of the consciousness and you are neither of
them. The meaning of the expression ‘Param
Vishranti’ has been given as the highest type of
rest. (In Marathi, ‘param’=highest, ‘vishranti’=
rest. To clarify even further, the word ‘vishranti’
maybe split into ‘visra’=forget, ‘anti’=in the end).

Having acquired and understood the
knowledge ‘I am’, stay there in seclusion
and don’t wander around here and there.
Getting stabilized in the knowledge ‘I am’, even
after having understood it, is extremely difficult.
Your identification with the body is one thing that
gets in the way and the other is the mind, which,
although it has understood the teaching,
is subconsciously not prepared to accept it. The mind
keeps prompting you ‘This can’t be it, it’s too
simple’, ‘Try this’, ‘Try that’, ‘It must be very
complex, search more’ and so on. Thus the
wandering continues endlessly and you remain
where you are. The Guru perceives this difficulty
and hence advises you to stay in seclusion – not
from society – but from thoughts, just in the sense
of ‘being’ or ‘I am’ and never wandering away
from it. Remember that not wandering through
physical seclusion maybe helpful but is quite
secondary to the not wandering of thoughts when
you seclude the ‘I am’ from the rest.

Once you stabilize in the ‘I am’, you
will realize that it is not the eternal state,
but ‘you’ are eternal and ancient.
You must have observed that although everyday
you see people around you die, you yourself feel
that you are going to continue as you are. Deep
down, sub-consciously, you believe that things will
remain as they are, nothing will change. Strangely
though, in retrospect, you find that things have
changed quite dramatically from what they were
several years back, especially your notions, ideas
and most of all priorities.  It is this sub-conscious
urge for eternity or immortality that has dragged
you into spirituality. In a way you were not wrong,
except that you mistakenly believed that you as a
body, a person or as the ‘I am so-and-so’ are going
to continue. Following the teaching of the Guru,
when you stabilize in the wordless ‘I am’, you will
realize that it is not eternal. You stand apart from
the ‘I am’ as the true formless Absolute which is a
witness to the ‘I am’ which has appeared on it.
This true being of yours is eternal and ancient.

The sequence is ‘I am’ the witness to
the whole manifestation, it occurs
simultaneously. The ‘I am’ subsiding,
what remains? You are ‘That’.
The moment you wake up you have the feeling ‘I
am a witness to the world’, it occurs so swiftly
that you never give any thought to the question ‘to
whom did the witnessing occur?’ Was it not to
something prior to the ‘I am’? Actually, the ‘I am’
and space go together and you instantly see the
world or this manifestation. After this, your
personality linked to your day to day life takes over
and equally instantly the ‘I am’ is also lost and
forgotten. As you come back to the wordless ‘I am’
and abide in it for a reasonable amount of time,
one day it subsides, then whatever remains, you
are ‘That’.

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Re: Quotes of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
« Reply #258 on: January 13, 2013, 02:24:08 AM »
What I say is simple, when the ‘I
am’ arises, everything appears, when ‘I
am’ subsides everything disappears.
The real Guru’s words are always simple, for he is
no longer an individual. He expects nothing from
you except the development of a firm conviction in
the simple teaching that he imparts. It is indeed
through his grace that he has handed over
something so profound to you in such a simple
manner. Everything has been centered around the
‘I am’: the ‘I am’ arising, everything appears, the
‘I am’ subsiding, everything disappears. Just
understand the ‘I am’, abide in it and be free from
it and your job is done.

You want me to say something about
the post-‘I am’ manifestation, while I am
driving you to the pre-‘I am’ Absolute.
Just see how clear the Guru’s intentions are, his
sole concern is to drive you towards the Absolute,
which he says is prior to the ‘I am’. What can he
say about the post-‘I am’ manifestation? Since you
don’t understand the state prior to your ‘being’, or
rather you have never known it or given thought to
it, you urge him to say something that you know.
You know a lot about the post-‘I am’ manifestation,
you are comfortable with it, hence you would like
to hear something in that domain only and not
outside it.  Now put aside all that is post-‘I am’
manifestation and try to focus on what the Guru is
saying, which is about the pre-‘I am’ or the
Absolute.



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Re: Quotes of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
« Reply #259 on: January 13, 2013, 02:15:41 PM »
Q: How does it happen that each man creates his own world?

NM: When a number of people are asleep, each dreams his own dream. Only on awakening the question of many different dreams
arises and dissolves, when they are all seen as dreams, as something imagined.

Q: Even dream have  a foundation.

NM: In memory. Even then, what is remembered, is but another dream. The memory of the false cannot but give rise to the false.
There is nothing wrong with memory as such. What is false is its content. Remember facts, forget opinions.

Q: What is a fact?

NM: What is perceived in pure awareness, unaffected by desire, and fear is fact.

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« Reply #260 on: January 15, 2013, 12:15:16 AM »
I am not telling you what the real is,
because words negate that. Whatever I
am telling you is not the truth, because it
has come from the ‘I am’.
The utmost honesty of the Guru must be
appreciated when he says that whatever he is
telling you is not the truth.
In fact it makes your understanding more clear,
and emphasizes the total unreliability of words to realize the truth.
But since we have no other means of receiving
instruction from the Guru he uses words and he
makes it clear that the real is beyond words. The
moment you utter a word it must come from the ‘I
am’ and the ‘I am’ is false.

I take you to the source ‘I am’ again
and again, on reaching and stabilizing
there you realize there is no ‘I am’!
The Guru is tireless in his efforts and very
generous indeed. All those who come to his door
receive the same treatment - that is, they are taken
to the source ‘I am’ again and again. He does not
talk about anything else, he wants to make the most 
of whatever time he has left in this physical body
and impart his teaching to all those who come. He
is hopeful that of the many that come at least a few,
or maybe only one, may understand what he is
saying, get stabilized in the ‘I am’, realize its
unreality and be free from it.

There is no explanation how this
seed, this consciousness or the
knowledge ‘I am’ has arisen. But once it
has come it keeps humming through the
‘gunas’.
The arising of the knowledge ‘I am’ occurs quite
spontaneously and there is no explanation as to
how this seed consciousness came to be.  Just as
there is no explanation why a child likes to play.
But once the knowledge ‘I am’ arises it likes to
keep humming through the ‘gunas’, the three
qualities that, along with the five elements, make
up the body. The word ‘humming’ has been used
because in Marathi ‘gun-gun’ means humming.

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« Reply #261 on: January 15, 2013, 12:21:08 AM »
You must know how this ‘I am’
came about, as it is the only thing by
which you can unravel the whole mystery.
The key to this whole mystery of life lies in one and
only one thing and that is the knowledge ‘I am’.
The ‘I am’ has to be understood very clearly with
no doubts whatsoever in your mind. If necessary,
go through the words of the Guru again and again.
Once having understood it you will have to dwell
or reside in the ‘I am’ in its utmost purity
and then its relevance will stand exposed and you will know
about its arrival and departure.

Onto your Absoluteness, which is
without form or shape, came this
knowledge ‘I am’, which is also without
shape and form.
Just think about what you were prior to conception.
You were simply not there! Nothing! So where is
the question of form or shape in just infinite space?
You were happily placed, there was no worry at
all, and then this knowledge ‘I am’ arrived. This
knowledge ‘I am’ inherits the properties of your
Absoluteness in having no form and shape. Thus all
knowledge is formless because at its origin lies the
‘I am’.

This knowledge ‘I am’ has spontaneously ‘appeared’ on your
Absolute state, therefore it is an illusion.
You were ‘not there’ and spontaneously ‘you are’,
the ‘I am’ has ‘appeared’ on your Absolute state.
Was there any volition on your part in it? Not at
all, it’s like the dream which only ‘appears’ nonvolitionally when you fall asleep.
The dream 'appears’ to be true as long it lasts and,
like the dream, the ‘I am’, too, is an illusion only true as
long it lasts. With the disappearance of ‘I am’ you
are in your Absolute state.

. This knowledge ‘I am’, the ‘sattva’,
cannot tolerate itself, so it needs the
‘rajas’ (doing) and ‘tamas’ (claiming
doership) for support.
Understanding the ‘I am’ is one thing and abiding
in the ‘I am’ is quite a challenging task. It sounds
simple but the ‘Sadhana’ (practice) requires
considerable determination and earnestness on the
part of the seeker. It is made clear here that the ‘I
am’ in its purity is the ‘sattva’ quality, which
cannot tolerate itself (no wonder you slip!). The
‘sattva’ constantly demands the companionship of
the qualities ‘rajas’ (doing) and ‘tamas’ (claiming
doership). But this is a battle against the current,
remember you are going back, so hold on to the ‘I
am’ and persist.

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Re: Quotes of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
« Reply #262 on: January 15, 2013, 02:17:53 AM »
What method did Nisargadatta Maharaj teach?
Did he instruct to ask Who am I? as Bhagavan did?

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Re: Quotes of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
« Reply #263 on: January 15, 2013, 10:17:55 AM »
Dear Jyoti,

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj did not use the phrase 'Who am I?' as the main plank. However, he spoke about unborn nature of Reality
and all else which are unreal never lived. He also said that all thinking is duality. The unthought state is Realization.

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Re: Quotes of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
« Reply #264 on: January 15, 2013, 06:26:12 PM »
Dear Jyoti,

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj's teachings are in essence same as Bhagavan's,he only uses differented words and little diferent aproach,explanations. He also ask us to question all,and ourselves,so it is the same question we need to ask. He more ask from us to watch our mind and ourselves in everyday life,to question our urges and motives,and to stay put in that knowledge and sense I Am,to pay atention only to that and try to be one with it.
It is same Bhagavan's teaching Be Still or Summa Iru. Stay in that Being from which everything came,stay as I am.

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« Reply #265 on: January 15, 2013, 06:41:47 PM »
Also,Sri Subramanian said the main point of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj's teaching. 

All is That only,the Supreme. And we are that. Never born, never lived,never died. Supreme Eternal,Immortal abd Ever Shining Reality.

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« Reply #266 on: January 15, 2013, 06:50:08 PM »
Dear Sri Tushnim,

Yes,we already are That. Only the mind need to archive something,and only the mind is not realised and need realisation. Thoughts and this bodily perception,or perception from the body-mind point are ehst makes us believe we are this person. Believe...it belongs to person too...

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« Reply #267 on: January 15, 2013, 06:54:43 PM »
There are many many similarities between the teachings of Sri Bhagavan and Nisargadatta Maharaj. For example, in
the matter of great utility of mantras.  See this conversation:

Q: The constant repetition of a few words, is it not a kind of madness?

NM: It is madness, But it is deliberate madness. All repetitiveness is tamas, but repeating the name of God is Sattva-tamas,
due to its high purpose. Because of the sattva element, the tamas element will wear out and will take the shape of complete
dispassion, detachment, relinquishment, aloofness, immutability.  Tamas becomes the firm foundation on which an integrated
life can be lived.

Q: The Immutable - does it die?

NM: It is the changing that dies. The immutable neither takes birth, nor lives nor dies. It is the timeless witness of life and death
and all changing things. You cannot call it dead because it is ever aware. Nor can you call it alive, for it does change.

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Re: Quotes of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
« Reply #268 on: January 15, 2013, 07:36:23 PM »
Dear Sri Subramanian sir,

Yes,for me those teashings differ only in the way of expression. Both are very unique. But,both,Bhagavan and Maharaj drive to the same Unchangable and Perfect Reality.

Thats way Maharaj loved and respected Bhagavan that much. Both are That Absolute Reality, our Sadguru.

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« Reply #269 on: January 15, 2013, 08:19:29 PM »
There are many many similarities between the teachings of Sri Bhagavan and Nisargadatta Maharaj. For example, in
the matter of great utility of mantras.

Yes, Guru Mantra is very important element in the Inchegiri Sampradaya Teachings which Shri Nisargadatta Maharaj belongs to. Please, listen to this audio recording of his voice, Discourse 2:
http://netinetifilms.com/audio-discourses.shtml