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Nagaraj

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external appearance of Jnani
« on: May 22, 2012, 08:17:51 AM »
KADUVELI SIDHAR was famed as a very austere hermit. He lived on the dry leaves fallen from trees. The king of the country heard of him, saw him and offered a reward for the one who would prove this man’s worth. A rich dasi agreed to do it. She began to live near the recluse and pretended to attend on him. She gently left pieces of pappadam along with the dry leaves picked by him. When he had eaten them she began to leave other kinds of tasty food along with the dry leaves. Eventually he took good tasty dishes supplied by her. They became intimate and a child was born to them. She reported the matter to the king.

The king wanted to know if she could prove their mutual relationship to the general public. She agreed and suggested a plan of action. Accordingly the king announced a public dancing performance by that dasi and invited the people to it. They athered there and she also appeared, but not before she had given a dose of physic to the child and left it in charge of the saint at home.

The dance was at its height here; the child was crying at home for the mother. The father took the babe in his arms and went to the dancing performance. She was dancing hilariously. He could not approach her with the child. She noticed the man and the babe. She contrived to kick her legs in the dance so as to unloose one of her anklets just as she approached the place where the saint was. She gently lifted her foot and he tied the anklet. The public shouted and laughed. But he remained unaffected. Yet to prove his worth, he sang a Tamil song meaning:
  • “For victory, let go my anger! I release my mind when it rushes
    away. If it is true that I sleep day and night quite aware of my Self,
    may this stone burst into twain and become the wide expanse!”
Immediately the stone (idol) burst with a loud noise The people were astounded.

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॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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Re: external appearance of Jnani
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 08:21:06 AM »
Sri Bhagavan continued:

Thus he proved himself an unswerving Jnani. One should not be deceived by the external appearance of Jnani. Thus Vedantachudamani - V. 181.

Although a jivanmukta associated with body may, owing to his prarabdha, appear to lapse into ignorance or wisdom, yet he is only pure like the ether (akasa) which is always itself clear. whether covered by dense clouds or cleared of clouds by currents of air. He always revels in the Self alone, like a loving wife taking pleasure with her husband alone, though she attends on him with things obtained from others (by way of fortune, as determined by her prarabdha). Though he remains silent like one devoid of learning, yet his supineness is due to the implicit duality of the vaikhari vak (spoken words) of the Vedas; his silence is the highest expression of the realised non-duality which is after all the true content of the Vedas. Though he instructs his disciples, yet he does not pose as a teacher, in the full conviction that the teacher and disciple are mere conventions born of illusion (maya), and so he continues to utter words (like akasvani); if on the other hand he mutters words incoherently like a lunatic, it is because his experience is inexpressible like the words of lovers in embrace. If his words are many and fluent like those of an orator, they represent the recollection of his experience, since he is the unmoving non-dual One without any desire awaiting fulfilment. Although he may appear grief-stricken like any other man in bereavement, yet he evinces just the right love of and pity for the senses which he earlier controlled before he realised that they were mere instruments and manifestations of the Supreme Being. When he seems keenly interested in the wonders of the world, he is only ridiculing the ignorance born of superimposition. If he appears indulging in sexual pleasures, he must be taken to enjoy the ever-inherent Bliss of the Self, which, divided Itself into the Individual Self and the Universal Self, delights in their reunion to regain Its original Nature. If he appears wrathful he means well to the offenders. All his actions should be taken to be only divine manifestations on the plane of humanity. There should not arise even the least doubt as to his being emancipated while yet alive. He lives only for the good of the world.

Sri Bhagavan now warned the hearers against the mistake of disparaging a Jnani for his apparent conduct and again cited the story of Parikshit. He was a still-born child. The ladies cried and appealed to Sri Krishna to save the child. The sages round about wondered how Krishna was going to save the child from the effects of the arrows (apandavastra) of Asvatthama. Krishna said, “If the child be touched by one eternally celibate (nityabrahmachari) the child would be brought to life.” Even
Suka dared not touch the child. Finding no one among the reputed saints bold enough to touch the child, Krishna went and touched it, saying, “If I am eternally celibate (nityabrahmachari) may the child be brought to life.” The child began to breathe and later grew up to be Parikshit.

Just consider how Krishna surrounded by 16,000 gopis is a brahmachari! Such is the mystery of jivanmukti! A jivanmukta is
one who does not see anything separate from the Self.

If however a man consciously attempts to display siddhis he will receive only kicks.

(Talks 449)

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Subramanian.R

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Re: external appearance of Jnani
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 10:31:38 AM »
Dear Nagaraj,

Sri Bhagavan mentions about one King, KaduveLi Siddhar and Tondaradipodi Azhwar in the same Talks. A Jnani cannot be
understood by his external appearance. Sesahdri Swamigal was roaming in Tiruvannamalai like a madcap. He would even
throw stones when someone comes here. He knows who is good hearted and who is not. That is why he treated people
differently. Sri Bhagavan was ever in bliss internally,  deep within with a vacant gaze but He was never appearing abnormal
at anytime.  Sadasiva Brahmendra was walking naked, without bothering about his lack of attire. He was ever moving but not
remaining stationary at any place.

Vivekachudamani describes the hall marks of a Jivan Mukta in a number of verses from 425:

1. In the consciousness of Brahman, staying there forever, free from external desires, enjoying the blessedness unknown
by others (as in sleeping, or as a child), seeing this world as in his dream and yet full in established understanding - surely
he is the enjoyer of endless merits. He is blessed indeed. He is to be followed in this world.

2. He is one who is ever established in understanding. He forgotten all duality.

3.  He is ever free from the effects of wakefulness, and whose knowledge, is free from all desires.

4. The noise of the world is pacified in him. Though with part, yet  is he without part. His heart is ever without anxiety, free
even in his body. He who follows the body as one follows a shadow, and yet without no idea of me and mine, even in this
body.

5. He sees the sameness in good and bad. He who remains unchanged in pleasure or pain.

6. He remains ever as the witness only, free even in this life.

7. He knows his own Self by the power of the scriptures, without even reading the scriptures, which are not necessary for him.       

8. Being worshipped by the good or ill treated by the wicked, who remains the same always.

9. He in whom the enjoyments enter like rivers into the ocean, yet cannot disturb it - he is a Jivanmukta.

10. He who has known the reality of Brahman cannot be like one of the world, and he cannot do things as before.

11. Even a very lustful man feels no desire when he is in the presence of his mother. In the same manner a man is freed
from worldilness if he has realized Brahman, the infinite bliss.

12. As the sky is never attached to anything, one who has seen his own Self, which is always free from all contact,
indifferent to everything - knowing Him, he is never attached by action, whether past, present or future.

13. Prarabdha is surely very powerful. Even to the knower it will bring effects, because the fire of knowledge destroys
that which has been stored up and what one has yet to do, but what is done, it cannot destroy. But those who stay in
consciousness are never affected by these three. They are Brahman without qualities.

14. Therefore, it is not proper to speak of prarabdha which belongs to the upadhis, for him who remains in Brahman alone,
as it is not proper to impute the things of a dream to a man who is awake.

Arunachala Siva.         

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Re: external appearance of Jnani
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 11:45:33 AM »
Dear i

the verses after 400 are highly wonderful and are very relevant to all Jijnaasaas

Prostrations to Bhagavan
॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta