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Nagaraj

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Gems from Guru Vachaka Kovai
« on: May 08, 2012, 08:10:12 PM »
தன்னைநினைத் தொரடிநி சார்ந்தா லதற்கிடா
வன்னையினு மிக்கவவ் வான்டானும் உன்னை
நினைத்துத்தா னொன்பதடி நிளவந் தெற்பா
னனைத்துக்கா ணன்னொ னருள்
(965)

Thannai ninai thoradini saarndaa ladarkida
Vannayinu mikkavav vaandaanum unnai
ninaithuttaa nonpatu nilavan terpa
nanaithukkaa nano narul

If towards the Self (Him), you take one single step, then with much more than a mother's love, Self (He) takes nine steps towards you to accept you. Such is th Guru's grace.

Salutations to Bhagavan
॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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Re: Gems from Guru Vachaka Kovai
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 09:12:41 PM »
தானெ யுலகாச் சமைந்துள்ள தத்துவத்தைத்
தானெ யறியாத் தடுமாற்றம் எனொதான்
எய்ந்ததெனக் கெளாதிர் யார்க்கெனநிர் காண்பிரெல்
எய்ந்ததடு மாற்றமெ யில்
(86)

Taane Yulagaac Camaintulllla Tattuvattait
Taane Yarriyaat Tattumaarrrram Ennnotaannn
Eyntadennnak Kellaatir Yaarkkennnanir Kaannpirel
Eyndadattu Maarrrrame Yil

Don't ask, "How did this error rise, Why this ignorance that the Self Itself is as the world transformed?"
Seek rather and find out to whom This happened, and the error will persist no more.

Salutations to Bhagavan
॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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Re: Gems from Guru Vachaka Kovai
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 11:18:59 AM »
எயமனச் சன்றுக் கிசையொழுக்கெ நல்லினந்தான்
மெயதனை யொர்கால் விலக்குமெற் றூய
மனச்சான் றதனை மறுத்தங்கு வாழ்விற்
றனிச்சார்ந்து வாழ்வெ தலை


Eyamannnac Cannnrruk Kisaiyozhukke Nallinnnandaannn
Meyadannnai Yorkaal Vilakkumerr Rruuya
Mannnaccaannn Rradannnai Marruttanggu Vaazhvirr
Rrannniccaarndu Vaazhve Dalai

K Swaminathan:

Good people may sometimes forsake the seeker following his own conscience.
Then he should heed, not hush, his pure inner voice and wend his lonely way

Michael James and Sadhu Om:

If one’s conscience, according to which one has [always] been acting, once tells one not to live in a [seemingly] good society, it is better for one to live alone rather than to live in that society, rejecting one’s pure conscience.

Sadhu Om: This verse is an instruction given to some good devotees like Sri Muruganar who came to live in the Ashram, believing it to be a favourable environment for their spiritual progress, but who soon had to leave and live alone outside the Ashram, having found for one reason or another that it was not a suitable environment. When a seemingly good society is thus bound by an advanced aspirant to be unsuitable, he should follow his conscience and live alone, and should not continue to depend in any way upon that society.

However, it should be noted that in this verse the word ‘conscience’ means only the conscience of an advanced aspirant, which is why it is referred to as a ‘pure conscience’.  Since the minds of immature people are often unable to resist their bad tendencies, their conscience may sometimes decide good to be bad and bad to be good, and hence it is not the conscience of such people that is meant here. Rather than being misled by their wrong discrimination, it would be better for such people to follow the advice of their elders.

Sri Muruganar:  If one’s conscience, being driven by prarabdha, separates and prevents one from living in a good society, it will be better for a wise aspirant to live alone instead of rejecting his pure conscience by trying to live among the same group of people.



I would like to request our members to please share your observations on this. Thank you. There is a very subtle loud advise, given here.

Salutations to Bhagavan
॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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Re: Gems from Guru Vachaka Kovai
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 01:21:59 PM »
Dear Nagaraj,

Verse 965 describes God's / Guru's grace. Muruganar says in his Pozhippurai that there is no need to have doubt in His Grace.

David Godman quotes the following verse Maharshi's Gospel:

Question: How God or the Guru any solicitude for me?

Sri Bhagavan: If you seek either - they are not really two but one and identical - rest assured that they are seeking you
with a solicitude greater than you can ever imagine.

Arunachala Siva.   

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Re: Gems from Guru Vachaka Kovai
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 01:43:02 PM »
Dear Nagaraj,

Again for Verse 86, David Godman quotes from Day by Day (Devaraja Mudaliar) entry dated 17th Feb 1946:

Question: How has srishti (creation) come about? Some say it is due karma. Others say it is the Lord's lila or
sport. What is the truth?

Bhagavan: Various accounts have been given in books. But is there creation? Only if there is creation, we have to
explain how it came about. All that, we may not know. But that we exist now is certain. Why not know the 'I' and the
present and then see if there is a creation?

Arunachala Siva.   
 

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Re: Gems from Guru Vachaka Kovai
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 01:47:14 PM »
Dear Nagaraj,

Yes. Devotees like Chadwick, Muruganar, Cohen, Kunju Swami, Viswanatha Swami, Suri Nagamma and many others
did not leave the satsangh of Sri Bhagavan. But instances are there where a visitor comes and goes away after a few
days. Even while they are in the Hall, their minds will be wandering. But some devotees, like Ramdas, went away but
pursued their own inner voice and attained enlightenment. Thus there are three categories.

Arunachala Siva,.