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« Reply #1440 on: December 23, 2015, 07:25:32 AM »



Prabhavati Devi got married not long ago.  It must have been a year back. For about two years
before her marriage, she was staying in the Asramam.  She was a girl from Maharashtra,good looking
and cultured.  She wanted to be a great bhakta like Saint Meerabhai and so used to sing
and dance and say that she would never marry, and she would don ochre robe. She behaved like a
naughty child before Bhagavan.  Bhagavan knew that her naughtiness would not leave her until
she got married.  As last, somehow, she did get married.  Immediately after the wedding,
the bride and the bridegroom came in the wedding attire to the Asramam, with their relatives and
offerings of fruits and flowers, and  bowed down before Bhagavan Ramana.

After a stay for two or three days, she came to Bhagavan one morning at 8'O clock with her
husband seeking Bhagavan's blessings before leaving to set up home in her husband's
place.  Squirrels were playing about Bhagavan's sofa and peacocks were wandering outside the Hall.
There were not many people.  It was calm and quiet in the Hall.  The young man bowed down to
Bhagavan with awe and respect, took leave of Him and stood waiting on the side of the doorway.
With downcast looks and bubbling shyness and tearful eyes,the child of the Asramam while waiting there for Bhagavan's permission, looked like Shakuntala trying to tear away from the Kanva Maharshi's Ashram.  Bhagavan nodded His head in token of approval and then she bowed down to Him. No
sooner had she crossed the threshold, Bhagavan remaked looking at Suri Nagamma, "It was only
yesterday, she had the chapter of Krishnavatar in Bhagavatam, copied out by Sundaresa Iyer."
I said with delight, "She will come with a child in her arms, when she comes here next year."

Meanwhile, she began to sing in a full throated song full of devotion and voice as sweet as a nightingale
while going round the Hall in Pradakshina.  Bhagavan Ramana was so evidently moved and like Kanva Maharshi himself, He said: "Do you hear the hymn from Mukundamala?"  My eyes
were filled with tears.

(Source: Suri Nagamma, Letters from Sri Ramanasramam,
24th November 1945.)

Arunachala Siva.       

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« Reply #1441 on: December 24, 2015, 07:23:35 AM »



During Bhagavan Ramana's time, when they renovating Arunachaleswara Temple, they found a
stone slab near the Siva Linga, and on removing it, they found a dark tunnel.  They immediately
rushed to Bhagavan and asked Him what to do. Bhagavan Ramana said: "Do not try to investigate
the tunnel. Please close the stone slab, as it was before."  Arunachala Puranam says that yogis,
siddhas and jnanis who are living in the Hill as forms of bright lights, come through the tunnel,
in their subtle bodies and pray to Arunachaleswara at night. I do not know whether one believes
this since you are not believing many things.  Arachelogists have in fact found that the Hill is as old
as the earth itself, geologically, say about 3 billion years old and is older than Himalayas. But if they
try to dig it and find something, they would find nothing, since the treasures may not be visible to their biological eyes.  Recently, some company took lease of the far-western portion of the Hill, and wanted to dig and take ferro-aluminum alloy ore.  People in the villages nearby protested and the project was abandoned under a High Court Order. It is like Mackenna's Gold.  Gold is there in the Appachian Mountains, but if
any one tries to take it, they will not return alive.

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« Reply #1442 on: December 27, 2015, 06:58:51 AM »

Once Swami Rajeswarananda had planned to take a big party of pilgrims with Bhagavan in
their midst.  Bhagavan Ramana said:  "I did not consent to go and the thing had to be dropped.
What is there I could go and see?  I see nothing.  What is the use of my going anywhere? Nothing
can be seen by me. 'Paarthal Ondrum Terihiradhu Illai'."

This is one of the self-revealing statements which escape Bhagavan's lips. 

The following remarks were also made by Bhagavan, on the same night.

"The Jnani sees he is the Self and it is on that Self, as the screen that the various cinema-pictures of
what is called the world pass.  He remains unaffected by the shadows which play on the surface of
that screen.  See with the physical eye, and you see the world.  See with the eye of realization,
everything appears as the Self, Brahma-mayam."

"To see an object that is in the dark, both the eye and the light of the lamp are required.  To see the
light only the eye is enough.  But to see the Sun, there is no need of any other light.

(Source: Day by Day, Devaraja Mudaliar, 21st November 1945.)

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« Reply #1443 on: December 27, 2015, 07:05:08 AM »

One Rishikesananda of Sri Ramakrishna Mission, visited Bhagavan Ramana on 21st November 1945.
He was asking about characteristics of a Jnani.  Bhagavan said that they are all described in books,
such as the Bhagavad Gita, but we must bear in mind that the Jnani's state being one which transcends
the mind, cannot be described with the help merely of the mind and that all description therefore
must be defective. Only silence can correctly describe their state or characteristics. But silence is more effective than speech. From silence came thought, from thought the ego and from the ego, the speech.
So if the speech is effective, how much more effective must its original source be.

Bhagavan then narrated the story of Tattvaraya.  He had composed a 'bharani' [a kind of poetic
composition in Tamizh]:

In honor of his Guru, Swarupananda.  He convened an assembly of poets to hear the work and
assess its value. The great pandits who came said:  'Bharani' is sung only in honor of a king who
had killed a thousand elephants in the battle, and how can an ascetic be compared to a king
of such valor?  Tattvaraya then took the pandits to his Guru, Swarupananda, and told the guru
about the purpose of their visit. The Guru sat silent and all the others also remained in mouna. 
The whole day passed and then the night and like that several days and nights without a word.
After some days, the Guru moved his mind a bit and thereupon the assembly regained their thought
activity!  Then they all declared:

"Conquering a thousand elephants is nothing beside the Guru's power of silence to conquer the
rutting elephants of all our egos put together.  So certainly he deserved a bharani upon his honor
and glory.  The pandits prostrated to Swarupananda and left with contentment.

(Source: Day by Day entry of 21.11.1945.  Also Talks entry dated 1.10.1936.)

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« Reply #1444 on: December 29, 2015, 06:39:28 AM »




Dr. Karamchandani, the Parsi doctor who attended to Bhagavan during His last days.
He says the tears of sorrow come about on the lower portion of the eyes.  The tears of bliss
come about on the edge of the eyes.  On the last evening Mrs. Karamchandani gave a glass
of orange juice to Bhagavan.  She had come all the way from Vellore to see Bhagavan and submit
this glass of orange juice.  She had darshan and Bhagavan took the juice without bothering about
restrictions on food and drink etc.,  Immediately, the milling crowd outside began chanting
Arunachala Siva, Arunachala Siva and the sound rented the air in the Asramam. 
Karamachandanis saw Bhagavan being extremely happy about the approaching time and He shed
tears!  The doctor says that the tears came from the edge of the eyes!

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« Reply #1445 on: December 31, 2015, 06:31:33 AM »



Once G.V. Subbaramaiah, had brought his two young daughters, Lalita and Indra, to the Asramam.
The younger one Indra, who was hardly 5 years old was quite mischievous.

In the Hall, some devotees at that time were asking Bhagavan Ramana, how to remain still [to remain Summa], amidst various work in the world.  Bhagavan Ramana said that it is all in the mind.  If the mind could be quelled and made to stay in the Self, within, any amount of work could be done, without
desire-ship and doer-ship. Meantime, Indra, was moving here and there in the Hall. She was pulling out books, Bhagavan Ramana's stick, alms-bowl, the time-piece near the sofa etc.,  Bhagavan
Ramana asked:  "Amma, what are you doing?"  Indra replied:  " I am not doing anything.  I am remaining Summa."

Everyone laughed.  Bhagavan Ramana also laughed and said:

"See, this is how the worldly work should be performed!"

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« Reply #1446 on: January 01, 2016, 06:41:48 AM »


When Bhagavan Ramana was on the Hill, serpents and peacocks used to remain quiet, friendly
to each other in His Presence.  Panthers which came to tanks and ponds to drink water, finished
their work and went away without harming anyone.

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« Reply #1447 on: January 01, 2016, 06:45:38 AM »


In 1945, there was in the Asramam, a small, sickly, lame, puppy that we feared would die at
any moment.  But under Bhagavan's constant care, he not only recovered health but began
to eat iddlies [rice-cakes] daily with so much relish that Bhagavan nicknamed him Iddli Swami.
Relating this incident, I wrote on June 15, 1945, a Telugu verse meaning:

"O Ramana, you once [as Lord Krishna] straightened and beautfied the hunchback woman of your
abounding Grace. So now you have reared this little lame puppy to a fine Iddli Swami. How wonderful!"

Two days later, Subbaramayya also composed couple of verses reading as under:

1. "Seeing you caress peacocks, squirrels, cows, dogs and monkeys and children with such tender
Grace, anyone must melt to his bonds. O Ramana!"

2. "So many birds and animals coming to you, have attained deliverance.  Likewise do bless us
with Grace this human animal that has sought refuge at your feet, O Ramana!"

(Source: Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace,
Volume 5. Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

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« Reply #1448 on: January 01, 2016, 06:48:33 AM »



Once a devotee with some familiarity complained to Bhagavan Ramana:  "Bhagavan!  Why do
people behave like this [in an undesirable manner] even in your august presence?"

With a smile, Bhagavan replied: "Yes, what else can be done? That which is within comes out.
Nothing that is not inside can come out, you see. If there is something good, it comes
out; so also that which is bad likewise comes out.  Nothing can remain bottled up within for long."

"That means, the Sannidhi in the presence of Jnanis and Mahatmas  acts only as a mirror. 
Whatever is within gets reflected outside. Is that so?" asked the devotee.

"Yes. That is so. The thoughts of the one sitting opposite to me get reflected here. What of that?
Where people gather together such things happen.  It can't be helped."  said Bhagavan Ramana.

(Source: Arunachala's Ramana, Boundless Ocean of Grace.
Volume 5. Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

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« Reply #1449 on: January 03, 2016, 07:05:28 AM »

We can believe that the sages when they say: Our fate is simply a bundle of habits.  If you want to
change your fate, --- change your habits.

We now understand that a guru is necessary.  But for many sincere people longing for spiritual attainment, the dilemma of 'Where is my guru, among so many who are not?'  still remains looming before
them.  Bhagavan Ramana spoke precisely to them by declaring that one should first understand:

"What is a guru?  Guru is God or the Self.  First man prays to God to fulfill his desires.  A time comes
when he will not more pray for the fulfillment of material desires but for God Himself.  God then
appears to him in some form or another, human or non-human to guide him to Himself in answer to his prayer and according to his needs."  [ S.S. Cohen, Guru Ramana].

A devotee inquired of Bhagavan Ramana.  "Is there any way to meet the appointed guru for each?"

Bhagavan:  "Intense meditation brings it about."  [Talks 135].

Therefore, the search for a guru is only to the search for God.  We need not search in vain for the place to knock, for it is within. Krishna said: "My glory is within."  Jesus also assures us of the
direction to find the guru as the 'pearl of great price' by saying, "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God of Heaven and all else shall be added unto you."

This kingdom is within our very Heart, and Bhagavan Ramana offers two ways of approach, and then
clearly instructs us how to unite with it.

"There are two ways.  'Ask yourself --- Who am I?' or 'Submit and I will strike down the ego.'  [Arthur Osborne].

Seeking your true nature in your Heart, discovering it and rejoicing in it by bathing in the bliss of my jnana swarupa -- this is within."

"Only bhakti sadhana performed continuously with love facilitate easily, in a gradual way,  this union."

"Enter with love the temple that is in your own Heart and experience the bliss of being absorbed in my swarupa, becoming one with it."  "I myself will command and control a mind that has died by the sacrifice of the ego."    [Padamalai, Muruganar. Tr. David Godman ].

(Source: Swami Sadasivananda's article in MP 2008-2009)

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« Reply #1450 on: January 07, 2016, 06:47:27 AM »

Thoughts are product of sin.  Here, the sin means ego, which is the first principle, that
divides man and godhead. This thought can be good or bad.  Bad thoughts, we all agree create
bad actions.  Even these bad actions are called bad according to circumstances.  A soldier can
kill any number of soldiers of enemy camp, and get appreciation.  But if he kills a civilian on the
road, he is punished.  A king can marry any number of girls and bring them to his harem.
A citizen cannot marry many girls.  So all good thoughts also produce evil.  Take atom bomb. 
It came out of a detailed experiment in science, whose basic laws of relativity and thermo dyanamics
are quite good for peaceful purposes.  But the same principles created an atom bomb and killed
lakhs of people. 

Now to bad thoughts, bad thoughts apparently produce bad actions which are sin.  But there could
be some bad thoughts [very rare indeed], which can produce good results.  Like the rishi who decided
to bluff to the hunter who had come chasing a deer, saying that there was no deer on that side.
The deer was saved.  All said, it is a lie.

That is why, Bhagavan Ramana said:  Summa Iru, Be Still, Be thoughtless.  But it is quite difficult
for most of us.

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« Reply #1451 on: January 09, 2016, 03:58:10 PM »

Even Advaita or any Hindu philosophy says that ego is an enemy. What is ego, it is contaminated Jiva?
It is always with you, like I told, like a nagging wife.  You cannot divorce your wife just because she is nagging, because she does many other useful work for you.  Better to ignore or turn a deaf ear to
her nagging!

Jiva + contamination =  Egoistic Jiva.  (like Ravana in Ramayana)

Jiva - minus contamination =  Pure Jiva = Suddha Tattvam = Brahman.  (like Rama in Ramayana)

Sri Bhagavan said the same thing in Talks.

Like Marx and Lenin said in post World War:  "Workers of the world,
unite, you shall lose nothing but your chains!"  Brahman says to Jiva:  " Unite with me after losing your chains!"

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« Reply #1452 on: January 09, 2016, 04:02:35 PM »



Sri Swami Sadasivananda continues...

We cannot manoeurve and progress towards victory over an enemy that outnumber us, in such an inimical battlefield, called the human mind, without soliciting real help.  Without an experienced guide as
the General of our forces, we may even court a fatal consequence. By legitimizing and even deifying
our ego's habitual heedless indifference to God, and by labeling its urges as 'inner guru' or
'voice of our Spirit', we inevitably fall into the death trap of pramada.

In the Udyoga Parva of the Mahabharata epic, the blind king Dhritarshtra, who symbolizes the
blindness of the ego, cynically asks Sage Sanatsujata:  "What is death?"  The Sage replies:  "Pramada is death!"   [Saint Poet Arungiri Natha uses the word  marana-pramada].  It should be understood that the definitions of Sanskrit words are subject to philosophical intentions, and thus are prey to individual bias.  Therefore disagreement and even argument concerning proper meaning and usage are commonplace.   Neverthelss, the most learned scholars agree that the ancient definition of the word 'pramada' comes from its usage in this scripture.  The word 'mada' means intoxication and when prefixed
by 'pra' it becomes intense intoxication to the degree of madness.

Sage Sanatsujata is indicating the presence of 'pramada' brings about a spiritual death.  Thus, the spiritual madness that at first manifests as indifference, inattention, and negligence becomes deadly because it is directed towards God.  This is not to be defined as forgetfulness of the Self, unless one admits to a willful
and belligerent forgetfulness.

The offspring of pramada is 'duragraha', adamant determination to do that which you know you
should never do.

The compound spiritual fracture of being indifferent to God and habitually partaking in negative action with utter disregard for the negative consequences, creates a karmic blood-letting, fatal even to the strongest constitution.


(Sri Bhagavan - in Part 4 of the Collected Works)


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« Reply #1453 on: January 10, 2016, 07:23:26 AM »


It is very difficult for most of us to see the presence of Atma in the Heart.
Bhagavan Ramana took only 20 minutes, to realize That. But it is not that easy.
He said in one poem, Atma vichara is very easy, in the sense, that it needs nothing
else, no poojas, no personal gods' images, no flowers and no offerings.  That way.  But for us,
we have to toil very much.  May be several hours per day.  Then, it becomes natural for us.  There
is no need for any special sessions.  Sadhana time depends on the readiness of a person.
If the person's ego is very bloated and if it refuses to budge, one may need a lot of time.
Ego does not give up the battle so easily.  It is here, that Bhagavan Ramana's Grace is necessary.
He also says, Grace is ever there.  But we should be fit vessels to receive it.  If we take a small cup,
only that much Grace we can pick up.  If we take a large drum, then the Grace is filled up more!
Many devotees came to live in Tiruvannamalai, for this purpose.  To see Him everyday and to make themselves large vessels.  Major Chadwick, having come from a Western country, did not return
to his homeland at all.  Today, even though He is not present in a body, His Grace continues. 
To visit Tiruvannamalai as frequently as possible, is to make us experience His Grace and Presence
more and more.

I have not succeeded yet.

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« Reply #1454 on: January 10, 2016, 11:37:47 AM »
"To visit Tiruvannamalai as frequently as possible, is to make us experience His Grace and Presence
more and more."

Even this is due to our limitation in our thinking. His grace is everywhere not just within the ashram or just in tiruvannamalai. But for most of us physical proximity is required since we have not matured enough. Bhagavan stopped an advanced disciple like Annamalai Swamy from having any contact with him or even visiting the ashram for many years towards the end of his life. As an excellent disciple, Annamalai Swamy followed Bhagavan's instructions and did not even attend his maha nirvana though he was right next door.