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« Reply #1350 on: November 05, 2015, 09:41:42 AM »
The Death Experience of Bhagavan:

contd.,


Savitiri's rendezvous with Yama:

As per the Vana Parva of the Mahabharata, Asvapati, the king of Madra and his queen Malavi being
childless wish for a son for their lineage to continue.  They undertake an ascetic life and offer oblations
to Sun God Savitr.  Pleased with their devotion, God Savitr appears before them and grants a boon
that they will have a daughter.   They are overjoyed at the prospect of having a child, and name the
daughter Savitri in honor of the god.  Needless to say, she imbibes the traits of asceticism and devotion
as she was born out of them.  When she reaches the age of marriage, her father is worried as none come
forward to seek her hand realizing their inability to match her purity and beauty.  Hence her father
tells her to find a husband on her own.  She travels across and beyond her kingdom for this purpose
and finally chooses Satyavan, the son of a blind king named Dyumatsena, who after losing everything
including his kingdom and eyesight lives in exile as a forest dweller.

When Savitri discloses her decision, Sage Narada wants Asvapati about her bad choice.  He reveals
that though Satyavan is peerless and perfect in every way, he is destined to die in a year.  Asvapati's
repeated pleas to Savitri to reconsider her decision fall on deaf years as she is adamant on her choice.
He finally acquiesces and conducts the marriage of Savitri and Satyavan with great pomp.  Soon after
her marriage, she too takes to the ascetic way of life, dons the attire befitting a hermit's wife, and lives
in perfect obedience and respect to elders.  As the destined day of Satyavan's death approaches,
Savitri takes a three day vow of fasting and vigil.  Though her father-in-law advises her against such
harsh austerities, she convinces him and seeks his permission to accompany her husband to the forest
on the third day.  Dyumatsena accedes to her request as she had not asked for anything during the
entire year's stay at the hermitage.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.                         
   

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« Reply #1351 on: November 06, 2015, 07:01:12 AM »



A vistior came to the Asramam on 10.2.1946 with a book called Sri Ramanopakhyanam.  His name
was Thangavelu Nadar.  Bhagavan Ramana told Devaraja Mudaliar that it was not about anything
about His teachings but the one which contained some stanzas found in some Nadi horscope
of Bhagavan Ramana, with notes and commentaries of another gentleman who was then editing
a Tamizh paper.  Bhagavan added that besides this version, some other Nadi version of
Bhagavan's horoscope have been traced and sent to the Asramam by different devotees.  Bhagavan Ramana added that there were various people in the country who claimed to have various Nadis.
We don't know whether they are correct or not.  This Thangavelu Nadar was originally from
Kumbakonam.  There also used to be one Swami at Tindivanam.  When anyone went to him, he
used to tell them:  "You must go and have darshan of Ramana Maharshi, at such and such time,
on such and such date."  This gentleman's name is also indicated in the Nadi horoscope and they
used to come here and tell me about it!

(Source:  Day by Day, Devaraja Mudaliar.)

Arunachala Siva.       

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« Reply #1352 on: November 06, 2015, 01:01:35 PM »
The Death Experience of Bhagavan:


contd.,

Savitri's story:

On the day of Satyavan's predicted death, he suddenly becomes weak while cutting wood and places
his head on Savitri's lap.  Yama himself comes to claim the soul of Satyavan.  She follows him as he
carries Satyavan's soul away.  His effort to convince her to return goes in vain.  With her wit and wisdom,
she wins over Yama. She first speaks about Dharma, then the benefits of having acquaintance with the
wise and the disciplined, and praises Yama for his just rule and hails him as Dharmaraja. Impressed,
he offers to grant her two boons, except life of Satyavan. She first asks for the restoration of the both
kingdom and eyesight for her father in law. She then asks a hundred sons for her father. Having granted
the boons, Yama proceeds  to his kingdom but is surprised to find Savitri still trailing him.  Taking pity
on her, he offers to grant her a third boon. But this time, he forgets to add the clause, 'except Satyavan's
life.'  Savitri wisely asks for hundred sons for herself and Satyavan.  Yama is in a dilemma as this would
indirectly mean restoring Satyavan's life.  However, pleased with Savitri's purity, perseverance, and wisdom, he revives Satyavan and blesses her with eternal happiness.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #1353 on: November 07, 2015, 12:38:39 PM »
Markandeya's Unconditional Surrender to Lord Siva on Encountering Yama:



This story is narrated in the Skanda Puranam.  Being issue-less for a long time, Rishi Mrikandu
and his wife Marudmati intensely worship Siva and seek the boon of progeny. Pleased with
their devotion, Lord Siva appears before them and offers two choices; a dim witted son who
would live a hundred years or an exceptional son with a short life span of only sixteen years.
The couple chose the later.  As expected, Markandeya (literally son of Mrikandu) grows up
to be a handsome and exemplary child quickly mastering all the Vedas and Sastras. He soon
becomes an accomplished sage and is extremely devoted  to Lord Siva. As he was nearing sixteen,
his parents grew nervous.  Observing this, Markandeya sought to know the reason and learnt
about his impending death.  He consoles them assuring that Lord Siva would surely come to his
succour.  Since then, he intensely offers worship to the Siva Lingam, and on the destined day, Yama
himself approaches Markandeya, as his minions were unable to take away his life owing to his
extreme devotion towards Siva.

On seeing Yama, out of fright, Markandeya hugs the Siva Linga tight with undivided devotion and
surrenders completely.  When Yama throws his noose around the young sage, it encircles Siva Lingam
too. Enraged at Yama's audacity to throw the noose over Siva Lingam, Lord Siva emerges out from the
Linga in his fiery form and strikes at Kala (Yama) with his trident. He then revives Yama under the
condition that the devout youth would be a Chiranjeevi (one who lives forever).  Markandeya is thus
bestowed with immortality much to the delight of his parents. Siva thenceforth was known as
Kaalakanta (ender of Kala). He is also Mrtyunjaya (conqueror of death) and Mahakaaleswarar
(ruler of time who is beyond time and death).

Here ends the narration as found in the scriptures.  The text that follows is an attempt, from a layman's
standpoint, to interpret the events given their puzzling nature.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva. 
                   

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« Reply #1354 on: November 07, 2015, 02:54:03 PM »
The Death Experience of Bhagavan:

contd.,

Ever since I came across the stories of Nachiketa and Saivtri in the Sanskrit classes during my highschool
days, I have wondered at the possibility of travelling to Yama Loka.  Is it a concrete plan on Earth such as
India or the United States?  Is it possible to visit at all, as one would travel from say, Bangalore to
Tiruvannamalai?  As, when Bhagavan first came to know that Arunachala is in fact a place on Earth
from His uncle,  He looked upon an atlas to figure out the route to reach Tiruvannamalai. So when
Nachiketa's father that he is offering to him unto God of Death, how does Nachiketa actually embark?
It is said that he waited at Yama's door for three days without food and water.  One would obviously
end up surmising that this only figuratively depicts the rigorous fast and penance that Nachiketa undertook
for three days in the quest of Death. Likewise, Savitri too undertakes fast and severe austerities for three
days prior to the destined day of death of Satyavan, and she also travels with Yama for miles together
up to the doorstep of Yamaloka.  All these obviously can't be at a physical realm but can only be mental.

contd.,

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« Reply #1355 on: November 07, 2015, 03:06:55 PM »
The Death Experience of Bhagavan:

As Bhagavan says, He menacted Death by imitating a corpse and posed to Himself a series of
questions to get the source of the ego.  Moreover, the Scriptures point out that none can go to
heaven, or even to the nether world in flesh and blood, but only the soul (barring a few exceptions
such as Sundaramurti Swamigal, Jnaneshwar).  Perhaps Nachiketa and the others too had a physical
death, with only the soul traversing to the Yama Loka, and later coming back alive, somewhat akin to
Bhagavan's second death experience (though He did not travel to any other world) at the Tortoise Rock
on Arunachala where He says that His physical faculties lie the heart-beat, circulation of blood and respiration had completely stopped for about fifteen minutes with the body even  turning livid blue, but with His usual current of awareness continuing to remain  in that state as well.  Thereafter, apparently
a shock passed suddenly through His body reviving respiration and circulation with enormous force
bringing back the color of life on the skin.

contd.,

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« Reply #1356 on: November 07, 2015, 03:26:21 PM »
The Death Experience of Bhagavan:

contd.,

Another striking point with Nachiketa's and Savitri's episodes is the period of penance for 'three days'.
Perhaps it has some spiritual significance as Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa too experienced Nirvikalpa
Samadhi in a matter of only three days leaving his Advaitin initiator Totapuri stunned as he himself had attained the state only after years of practice.  Sri Ramakrishna's utter disregard for food and water,
and one pointed concentration on the objective instructed by the Guru and the subsequent attainment of the goal in a mere three days was hailed as absolutely phenomenal by his own instructor.

With respect to the boons, one may wonder that if they encountered Death only at the mental realm
by keen inquiry, how was it possible to obtain them from Yama. This perhaps may be interpreted in
the light of questions posed by Ganapati Muni in Ramana Gita on worldly desires.

Jnaanaaniya samaadhih kim kaamaapyuta kalpate and kaameena yogaabhyasa sthitaprajno ...
saaphalyam adigachhati va na va.

He asks Bhagavan whether the spiritual practice would confer only Jnana on the sadhak or would
it also fulfill his worldly desires. He further asks that if a sadhak starts his practice with the objective of getting his worldly desires fulfilled  and eventually attains Self Knowledge, what would be the state of
those desires.                 

Bhagavan says, kaaaarabdhassamaadhistu kaamam phalati nischitam - Such worldly desires with which
the sadhak sets out before attaining Jnana would certainly be fulfilled.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #1357 on: November 08, 2015, 12:05:06 AM »
Dear Subramanian Sir... A spiritual sadhaka is supposed to hold the only desire that is to realize self right? And he is supposed to give up all other worldly desires.. Isn't it? Yet, does it mean that his worldly desires will be conferred on him though he might have had in the past ?




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« Reply #1358 on: November 08, 2015, 06:28:27 AM »




On the  morning of 27th January 1946, Bhagavan Ramana was reading Dinamani and coming
across an article there on the temple at Perur [near Coimbatore], read it out to us and said:
"It is news to me.  We do not hear of this in the life of Sundaramoorthy or in the Periya Puranam.
But it may be in the Sthala Puranam." 

This is the story:  On a particular day in the year, the God and the Goddess are taken out in to
an adjoining field and the festival of the God and Goddess transplanting seedlings on behalf of a
devotee, is celebrated, in memory of the fact, that one day Sundaramoorthy Swamigal entered
the Perur temple and found to his dismay that neither God nor Goddess was there and that on
searching for them he found them in a field working at transplanting for this devotee, a Harijan.

(Source: Day by Day with Bhagavan. Devaraja Mudaliar.
27th January 1946.)

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« Reply #1359 on: November 08, 2015, 06:32:15 AM »



On 25th January 1946, an Andhra youth arrived and told Bhagavan about the vagaries of his
senses to which Bhagavan said: "All that is due to the mind.  Set it right."  "That is allright,
Swami.  But however much I try to reduce this anger, it comes on again and again.  What shall
I do?" further asked the poor boy.

"Oh! Is that so, then get angry with that anger, it will be all right," said Bhagavan.  Everyone in
the Hall burst out laughing. A person, who gets angry with everything in the world, if only
he introspects and enquires why he does not get angry with his anger itself, will be not really
overcome all anger?"

That devotee, unable to understand anything, said: "That is very good!  Should I abuse myself?"

"Yes indeed!  What they are abusing is your body, isn't it? What greater enemy is there than this body, which is the abode of anger and similar feelings?  It is necessary that we ourselves should hate it.
Instead of that, when we are un-guarded, if anybody abuses, we should know that they are
abusing the body, and crying it down.  What is the use of counter-abuse?  Those who abuse us that
way should be looked upon as our friends.  It is good for us to be among such people.  If you are
among people who praise you, you get deceived," said Bhagavan Ramana.

(Source: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam, Suri Nagamma,
dated 25th Jan 1946.)

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« Reply #1360 on: November 08, 2015, 09:36:30 AM »
Dear Saraskrishna,


The sadhaka is said to have only one desire that is to attain the Self.  However, the worldly
desires will be conferred to him if they are destined by God.

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« Reply #1361 on: November 08, 2015, 09:54:35 AM »
The Death Experience of  Bhagavan:

continues...

Perhaps Nachiketa strongly wanted to appease his father after having an altercation over his
donating senile cows to the Brahmins.  And so on attaining Jnana,  this desire of his was fulfilled,
along with his other to know the secret fire sacrifice that takes one to heaven.  Likewise, Savitri
too wanted her father's lineage to continue, and during her year's stay at the hermitage, she should
have strongly desired for restoration of Dyumatsena's  kingdom and eyesight, as also the longevity
of Satyavan. So when she won over Yama (attained Self Knowledge), these desires were naturally
fulfilled. 

Sri Aurobindo in his masterpiece, the epic poem, Savitri : A Legend and a Symbol, beautifully
co-relates each of the characters in the story to different qualities and asserts that each of the
characters in the story are not mere personified qualities, but incarnations or emanations of living
and conscious Forces, that have taken human bodies in order to help man and show him the way
from his mortal state to a divine consciousness and immortal life.

He proclaims that Satyavan is the soul carrying the divine truth of being within itself but descended
into the grip of death and ignorance.   Savitri is the Divine Word, daughter of the Sun, goddess of
the supreme Truth who comes down is born to save, Asvapati, the Lord of the Horse, her human
father, is the Lord of Tapasya, the concentrated energy of spiritual endeavor that helps us to rise
from the mortal to the immortal planes. Dyumatsena, the  Lord of the Shining Hosts, father of
Satyavan, is the Divine Mind here fallen blind, losing its celestial kingdom of vision and through
that loss its kingdom of glory.

Contd.,

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« Reply #1362 on: November 09, 2015, 09:05:17 AM »

There are about 10 places all in Tiruvannamalai where Bhagavan Ramana stayed between a
few hours to many days.  These are apart from Virupaksha Cave and Skandasramam.  There is a
small old Tamizh book, with back ground stories about each place and the rough period during which Bhagavan Ramana stayed.  Bhagavan never left Tiruvannamalai for 54 years!  So all these places
are either in town or in the Hill.  I shall soon write about each one of them, Bhagavan willing.

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« Reply #1363 on: November 09, 2015, 09:09:54 AM »


Palakottu  - Just behind Mother's Temple.  There is a small gate to enter the bushy forest area.
After about 100 meters, you can see some cottages.  This is where Annamalai Swami,
Chadwick and other great men stayed.  There is a Samadhi for Annamalai Swami.

Guru Murtham -  This is in Vetta Valam Road, about 3kms from Asramam inside the town.
There is a Samadhi for Guru Jnana Desikar, with a Siva Lingam.  Here Bhagavan and a few
others stayed for 6 months, when there was no water in Virupakshi Cave area.  There is a
small temple, which is often closed.  You have to check up with nearby houses.  In one of the
houses, there is a key, they will come and open the shrine.  You can take some camphor
and light it there.  You may pay some amount for the house people since they invariably buy oil
for the lamp.

Isanya Math -  This is on Giri Valam, main road.  Towards the end, you have to take a deviation
for about 200 mts. and you can see Isanya Desikar Math, which is managed by Kovilur Math.
 The trust member stays in the adjacent house, where there is a Veda Patasala.  Here is where
Isanya Jnana Desikar attained Samadhi.  Bhagavan Ramana went for lunch one day, on the
compulsion of the then Kovilur Math Head, who took him in a bullock cart, literally lifting
Bhagavan up!  Bhagavan Ramana went there, had a lunch and gave a small extempore discourse to students on Bhagavad Gita.  He was hardly 25 at that time.

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« Reply #1364 on: November 09, 2015, 01:28:51 PM »
The Death Experience of Bhagavan:

continues...

With reference to the story of Markandeya, his faith in Lord Siva is so firm that he convinces
his parents not to worry.  Knowing beforehand his foreseen death, he intensely contemplates
on the Lord and with undivided devotion hugs the Siva Linga taking refuge in Him completely.
When Yama throws the noose around Markandeya's neck, his ego was no longer present having
completely merged in the Self (Siva), the noose consequently landing on the neck of Siva.  Since
the Self is immortal, the noose has no effect on it.  Siva thus bestows the boon of 'immortality'
on Markandeya.  The implication of which is Markandeya attains enlightenment. He was no longer
bound by time (Kala) or death having gained oneness with Lord Mrityunjaya and conquered death.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.