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« Reply #1305 on: September 19, 2015, 07:55:57 AM »


T.K. Sundaresa Iyer - At the Feet of Bhagavan:

THOUGHT TRAVELS TOO.

Mr. and Mrs. S. were visitors from Peru (South America) to the Asramam.  They had heard of the
Maharshi and His greatness, of how He was accepted by Arunachala, and how He and Arunachala are One.
To the couple, Sri Maharshi's presence on the earth seemed the second coming of the Christ Himself,
so they had longed for years to meet this God-Man once in their lives.

They were too poor to find the money for their passage to India.  But in their burning desire to
see the God-Man in flesh and blood, they laid by each week a few coins out of their small wages,
and in a few years, they had enough money to become deck passengers without the pleasant luxury
of the higher classes on the ship. So they sailed for several months, and at last reached India and
Tiruvannamalai.

The couple narrated all their story to Bhagavan, all the privations they had undergone to have a look
at  Sri Bhagavan.  Bhagavan was all kindness to them.  He heard their story with great concern,
and then remarked: 'You need not have taken all this trouble. You could well have thought of me from
where you were, and so could have had all the consolation of a personal visit.'

This remark of Sri Bhagavan they could not understand easily, nor did it give them any consolation
as they sat at His feet like Mary. Sri Maharshi did not want to disturb their pleasure in being in His
immediate vicinity, and so He left them at that.

Later in the evening, Sri Maharshi was inquiring about their day to day life, and incidentally their
talk turned to Peru.  The couple began picturing the landscape of Peru and were describing the
sea-coast and the beach of their own town.  Just then Maharshi remarked: 'Is not the beach of your
town paved with marble slabs, and are not coconut palms planted in between?  Are there not
marble benches in rows facing the sea there and did you not often sit on the fifth of those with your
wife?'

This remark of Sri Maharshi created great astonishment in the couple.  How could Maharshi, who had
never gone out of Tiruvannamalai, know so intimately such minute details about their own place? 

Sri Maharshi only smiled and remarked: 'It does not matter how I can tell. Enough if you know that in
the Self there is no Space-Time.'

This confirmed in the minds of the couple Sri Maharshi's original statement that they could well have
thought of Him even at their own home and so obtained His blessings.


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« Reply #1306 on: September 23, 2015, 07:27:53 AM »
T.K. Sundaresa Iyer - At the Feet of Bhagavan:

THOUGHT TRAVELS TOO.

Mr. and Mrs. S. were visitors from Peru (South America) to the Asramam.  They had heard of the Maharshi and His greatness,
of how He was accepted by Arunachala, and how He and Arunachala are One.  To the couple, Sri Maharshi's presence on the
earth seemed the second coming of the Christ Himself, so they had longed for years to meet this God-Man once in their lives.

They were too poor to find the money for their passage to India.  But in their burning desire to see the God-Man in flesh and blood,
they laid by each week a few coins out of their small wages, and in a few years, they had enough money to become deck passengers
without the pleasant luxury of the higher classes on the ship. So they sailed for several months, and at last reached India and
Tiruvannamalai.

The couple narrated all their story to Bhagavan, all the privations they had undergone to have a look at  Sri Bhagavan.  Bhagavan
was all kindness to them.  He heard their story with great concern, and then remarked: 'You need not have taken all this trouble.
You could well have thought of me from where you were, and so could have had all the consolation of a personal visit.'

This remark of Sri Bhagavan they could not understand easily, nor did it give them any consolation as they sat at His feet like Mary.
Sri Maharshi did not want to disturb their pleasure in being in His immediate vicinity, and so He left them at that.

Later in the evening, Sri Maharshi was inquiring about their day to day life, and incidentally their talk turned to Peru.  The couple
began picturing the landscape of Peru and were describing the sea-coast and the beach of their own town.  Just then Maharshi
remarked: 'Is not the beach of your town paved with marble slabs, and are not coconut palms planted in between?  Are there not
marble benches in rows facing the sea there and did you not often sit on the fifth of those with your wife?'

This remark of Sri Maharshi created great astonishment in the couple.  How could Maharshi, who had never gone out of
Tiruvannamalai, know so intimately such minute details about their own place? 

Sri Maharshi only smiled and remarked: 'It does not matter how I can tell. Enough if you know that in the Self there is no
Space-Time.'

This confirmed in the minds of the couple Sri Maharshi's original statement that they could well have thought of Him even
at their own home and so obtained His blessings.

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Arunachala Siva.     

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« Reply #1307 on: September 23, 2015, 07:33:51 AM »
T.K. Sundaresa Iyer:  At the Feet of Bhagavan:

About the year 1948. the Asramam received a letter from His Holiness Sri Sankaracharya of Puri
(Govardhana Math), expressing his desire to pay a visit to Bhagavan and to get certain doubts cleared.   Incidentally, the letter categorically mentioned the doubts and asked that they might be solved in reply letter.  The Chief of these referred to certain Agamic texts: "Hara Gauri Samyogat....avacchayah yogaha"
and the Teacher asked what this 'avacchayah yogaha' is.

I placed this letter at the feet of Bhagavan, and asked what answer should be sent to him.  Bhagavan simply laughed and said that the questioner knew it all himself and need no fresh light, but that he would know it better if he came in person.

A reply was sent accordingly on these lines.

After some days, the Acharya visited the Asramam. Bhagavan gave instructions for him to be received and attended to with all the care and respect for his exalted position.  The Asramites spared no pains in arranging his reception and accommodation.

Sri Bhagavan was seated in the Golden Jubilee Hall on the granite sofa.  And eager spectators had
gathered in their hundreds. Quite near to Bhagavan's sofa, a small dais was arranged with a deer's
skin for the Pontiff to sit on, and then he was escorted to the presence of Bhagavan.

On coming before the Maharshi, the Teacher greeted Him with his staff as is the custom of sannyasins, and was shown the seat arranged for him.  He was surprised that so prominent a seat has been allotted.
He asked the dais to be removed, spread the deer's skin on the ground and sat.

After a little preliminary talk, the Teacher repeated the main question of his letter and asked
Bhagavan to enlighten him on the meaning of the phrase.  Bhagavan gave him look of Grace and was
silent, and the Teacher was all receptive.  No words were exchanged between them.  Thus over half
an hour passed.

Then Bhagavvan smiled and remarked: 'What is there to explain?  You know it already.  This text
represents only the very essence of Divine Knowledge -- when Nature unites with the Person, then
the visible becomes all shadows.  It is as meaningful as pictures on the cinema screen, and then will be experienced the state of All Self as seen.... The One Being Consciousness which projects this all out of
Itself, sustains and then withdraws again into Itself.  Having swallowed all the shadows of the world,
Itself dances as the Ocean of Bliss, the Reality or Substratum of all that is, was and shall be. And then It is I-I.'

The Teacher seemed to have received the new Light and Life.  He was all joy.  He said that in all his
wandering through the country, he had tried to be enlightened upon this mystery; but it was only here
that he got the secret and truth of Light as explained in the texts of Vedanta.

So overwhelmed with joy, was he, that he repeated his visit to Bhagavan when Matrubhuteswara Shrine
was consecrated, and he personally supervised all rituals in the Yagasala and saw to it that everything
went off alright.

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« Reply #1308 on: September 23, 2015, 07:36:18 AM »
Silent Power:  Swami Madhavananda:

On one occasion, probably in 1939, Sri P.M.N. Swamy, a staunch devotee of Bhagavan and secretary of Sri Ramana Satchidanada Mandali, Matunga, went to the Asramam at Tiruvannamalai to have darshan of Bhagavan and stayed for the day there with his wife and nine month old child, Ramanan.

They had their breakfast in the common dining hall in the morning.  After finishing they went to wash their hands at the tap outside, leaving child in the Hall.  By this time, Ramanan crawled away somewhere and could not be seen.  By this time Ramanan crawled away somewhere and could not be seen.  The perturbed father called out to the child as, 'Ramana, Ramana'.

Bhagavan, who was then passing on His way to the meditation hall immediately responded to the call
and the child also was found near the well in the Asramam compound.  The response from Bhagavan
naturally created a little puzzle in Sri P.M.N. Swamy's mind because he thought that the call 'Ramana, Ramana' intended for his child might have been wrongly interpreted by Bhagavan.

Bhagavan was quick to read Sri Swamy's mind and told him: 'Why do you feel puzzled when I responded
to the call?  Is there any difference between this Ramana (meaning Himself) and that Ramana (meaning the child)?'

The Self remains with all beings.

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« Reply #1309 on: September 25, 2015, 07:44:28 AM »



There is an elephant in the forest.  The elephant is scared about the Lion in the forest.  The Lion has not appeared before the elephant in recent times.  It was once sighted and the elephant became totally
afraid of lion.  One night, the elephant dreamt of the Lion, it got scared even its dream about the Lion.  It woke up with a huge cry.  There was not Lion.  Only it was there.  The elephant got self realized.

All are dreams.  But unlike the elephant's dream, our dream about Bhagavan Ramana is a pleasant
dream.  But this dream should also end one day, when you would really wake up.  That waking
is the realization. 

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« Reply #1310 on: September 28, 2015, 07:58:47 AM »

During Bhagavan Ramana's post- Nirvana years, Muruganar continued to stay in Tiruvannamalai.  He conducted discourses on Sri Arunachala Stuti Panchakam and Sad Darsanam and Upadesa Saram.
One of the fortunate students was T.R. Kanakamma.  She grasped the message of Bhagavan Ramana,
through the words of Muruganar.  Later, when the Asramam requested T.R. Kanakamma to write a
simple commentary in Tamizh for Bhagavan's complete works, she reluctantly agreed  completed her
task, mainly on the basis of Muruganar's discourses.  This two volume book in Tamizh is a splendid work
giving the simple meaning and message of Bhagavan Ramana's works, including the difficult Sad Darsanam.

Muruganar kept himself in silent meditation, during his last two or three years.  Many later year
devotees came to him and requested him to speak about his years with Bhagavan Ramana.  He invariably
did not answer.  What is there to say? How to explain the non-dual experience to someone else?
He kept his experience, without diluting it in spoken words.

Once someone asked him: "What is your Sadhana for this?" Muruganar kept quiet for some time.
Then he explained:

"Sadhana? What Sadhana?  Where was the time for all that? The moment I saw Him, my ego was
annihilated.  Then where is separateness for doing this Sadhana and that Sadhana?"
He resumed his silence.

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« Reply #1311 on: September 28, 2015, 06:24:41 PM »

We are always the Self.  But we are not able to permanently abide in It.  When one abides in Self,
say temporarily, he gets the glimpse or foretaste of the Self for that temporary period.  It can be for
even many days and many months, but the mind is not extinct, and the mind jumps out.  Many seekers,
it is my experience too, abide in It for sometime.  But not permanently.  Once Devaraja Mudaliar
was complaining to Bhagavan Ramana, "I am not able to withdraw in It."  One day, he sat very close to Bhagavan's sofa.  Suddenly, his mind curled up into the Self.  He lost mind body consciousness.
He was feeling extremely blissful.  A few minutes passed.  Suddenly Bhagavan Ramana, who was looking hither then looking at the Hill, turned His face towards Mudaliar.  Devaraja Mudaliar asked Him with
tearful eyes:  Bhagavan!  "Is It That?"  Bhagavan smiled and said: "Oye! That is It!"  Thus Bhagavan,
out of abundant Grace, gave him, a foretaste.  This is Guru Krupa.  It is the Power of the Presence.
When seekers found it difficult, the Guru lends a helping hand, with his abundant grace.  Here only, the surrender, Saranagati, comes into play.


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« Reply #1312 on: September 29, 2015, 07:40:27 AM »


Once Natesa Iyer, who was working as a kitchen assistant in the Asramam, asked Bhagavan Ramana:  "Bhagavan!  Everyone here seems to know everything, they are all knowledgeable.  I do not know anything!"

Bhagavan Ramana said:  "Do not worry, you are ignorant.  They are all in learned ignorance.  There is no difference.  Have Sraddha in my words.  That is adequate."  Natesa Iyer merged with Bhagavan
Ramana in 1980s.  Upadesa Saram, Verse 27 says exactly the same thing.  "The true
Jnana is one where there is neither knowledge, nor ignorance.
This is the Truth.  There is nothing else to know."

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« Reply #1313 on: September 29, 2015, 07:43:24 AM »

Bhagavan Ramana has said in Who am I? "Since the Self is within five sheaths, to attain It from
books which are outside is not possible.  Rama to know that He is Rama does not require a mirror!" 
There is no point in reading scriptures endlessly."

Even reading books is not necessary.  Bhagavan Ramana's life tells only this.  Because Atma Jnana
cannot be captured by mind. It can be captured only beyond mind.  Not seeing the rope
will never be a problem. Only seeing the rope as a snake is the problem.  This is ignorance and this
ignorance will not go by merely reading the books.  If one reads the books, he should see the purport
of the book and not its meaning intellectually.

Manikkavachagar completed Tiruvachakam.  He went to Chidambaram Temple to see Nataraja.
The huge gathering headed by the King asked the saint: "What is the meaning of your book?"  Manikkavachagar said:  "This meaning is only He" and showed Nataraja and then disappeared as
a flame into Nataraja Siva!   

Arunachala Siva.
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« Reply #1314 on: September 29, 2015, 08:11:50 AM »


Bhagavan Ramana's Jayanti (His birthday) used to be celebrated in the Asramam even during His days.
Once there was one such Jayanti celebrations and I think it was Golden Jubilee Jayanti, in the year 1940,
that is His 60th birthday.  It was an elaborate function and devotees and other eminent personalities
had attended.

A programme comprising of speeches from various persons was fixed.  The detailed programme
chart was shown to Him.  Bhagavan Ramana, as usual kept silent.  Then the devotee asked Him:
Do you want these to be changed?  Bhagavan Ramana continued to keep silent.  Then the restless
devotee asked Him:  Bhagavan!  You kindly tell us what You like.  Bhagavan after a pause said:
If you ask me, I like only to keep summa!  This is the Silence, silence of words, mind and the mind
resolving into the Self, eternally.

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« Reply #1315 on: September 30, 2015, 09:08:35 AM »


Even animals and plants can have liberation.  What is necessary is only a vasana-free mind. 
It is with vasanas that we get into all problems in life.  There is an interesting anecdote about
Cow Lakshmi's case.  When Bhagavan Ramana was with Mother Azhagamma, keeping one hand
on her chest and another on her head, and caused subsidence of all vasanas.  He lifed His
hands only after mind and prana merged in Heart.  In Cow Lakshmi's case, Bhagavan Ramana did
not stay with her, till her last breath. When someone asked why that difference, Bhagavan Ramana
replied:  Why should I?  She had no vasanas left, even before her last breath.  Hence there was no
need to stay till end.

There is one story in Arunachala Puranam.  There was one cactus-bush on the Hill.  It was waiting for deliverance.  When Uma came to the Hill, for doing penance to get half the form of Annamalai, she
accidentally trampled on the cactus bush.  The bush caught fire and got destroyed, with one huge flame
rising about in the sky and reaching the Hill, to convey its deliverance to Uma!

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« Reply #1316 on: October 01, 2015, 07:27:25 AM »


Just as Bhagavan Ramana never specifically mentioned about His guru, He was also silent about
whether He was a avatara or reincarnation of any specific God.  Viswanatha Swami in his
108 Holy names of Bhagavan Ramana says:

He is equivalent to Sri Dakshinamoorthy.

He always sits facing south as Sri Dakshinamoorthy.

He is Kumara, means only a son or more specifically Skanda.

He is owner of armies.  Here again Skanda is called Senani,
the owner of gods' armies, Deva Sanathipathi.

But all these names have many interpretations.

Kavyakanta Ganapati Muni was quite specific in Sri Ramana Gita, saying that Ramana is an avatara
of Skanda.  He is not in Swamimalai or Tiruttani or in Tirupati, but He is ever in Tiruvannamalai.
He also says, He was Kumarila Bhatta, (representing Karma marga), then Tiru Jnana Sambandha,
(representing Bhakti marga), and finally as Ramana, extolling Jnana marga.  Many devotees had vision
of Subrahmanya, particularly Pazhani Muruga, with codpiece and stick.  Some had vision as Sri Dakshinamoorthy and a few as Siva Lingam.

Mother Azhagamma had a vision of Him, as Sri Dakshinamoorthy, but with serpents all over His body!

Once a devotee named Amritananda Yogi, ( a Malayalee, with well found Vedantic knowledge), asked
in the form of a Malayalam poem as what He was:

Whether, He was Hari or Sivaguru (Skanda) or Yativara (Siva)
or Vararuchi, the great Sanskrit philosopher. 

The Yogi left this paper containing Malayalam verse with Bhagavan Ramana and went away for sometime.  Bhagavan Ramana on return from His stroll, saw the paper and wrote on the back of it a reply in Malayalam verse!

In the recesses of the lotus-shaped hearts of all, beginning with Vishnu, there shines as pure intellect (Absolute Consciousness) the Paramatman, who is the same as Arunachala Ramana. When the mind
melts with love of Him, and reaches the innermost recess of the Heart wherein He dwells as the
Beloved; the subtle eye of Pure Intellect, opens and He reveals Himself as Pure Consciousness.

                               - Trans. Arthur Osborne.

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« Reply #1317 on: October 02, 2015, 07:30:53 AM »


The Jiva and the language or words are all in the world of mind -- Manomandala. It is all sound
and words.  Atma is in silence.  There is no need to understand the words, the language.  Many a
times only sound is adequate. What does the sound OM, or AUM explain?  It is according to one's own
mind or the Self, the Heart. 

Prahlada was given atma-upadesa by Narada, when the child was in the womb.  What language
the foetus know? What words it can understand?  It can at best understand only the sound.

Bhagavan Ramana said only this.  Summa Iru.  No words, no sound, the total silence of the mind
and the jiva by remaining in one's own Heart.


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« Reply #1318 on: October 03, 2015, 07:57:19 AM »



For seekers who are not really ARE, glimpses of Self are conferred by Jnanis.  I do not know whether
to call this glimpses as experiences or flashes.  Bhagavan Ramana had done this for Annamalai Swami
and Devaraja Mudaliar.  And also to Major Chadwick, Sadhu Arunachala, once when he was in his room bathing!  These flashes are quite unbearable but definitely give the foretaste.  Perhaps, it is like the
pregnant woman getting false pains before the actual throttling pain and delivery of the child.

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« Reply #1319 on: October 03, 2015, 09:27:47 AM »



Once on 5th June 1939, Sri Annamalai Swami asked Bhagavan Ramana:  "Sri Bhagavan!  Sri Rama,
when born, should have also had body consciousness (dehatma-buddhi)?

Bhagavan Ramana said:  Sri Rama showed His form as Maha Vishnu to his mother Kousalya and
then was born as a child to her. Further, when Sri Rama was in jungle, he was searching, Where is Sita,
Where is Sita, and then wandered here and there.  Seeing this, Parvati asked Siva: Does not Sri Rama
know where Sita was? Why should he then search for her?  Siva then told Parvati:  Alright, you
go in the form of Sita and stand before Sri Rama, then you will know (the truth).  Parvati accordingly
went and stood before Sri Rama in the form of Sita.  Sri Rama still went past her and cried:  Where
is Sita, where is Sita?

After telling this, Bhagavan Ramana quoted the Verse 137 of Kaivalya Navaneetam, (Verse 137 in Tamizh, Verse 36 of English Version, Part II):

Disciple:  "O Master!  you who are formless transcendentally, function as Iswara (cosmically), and
appear in human form (there)!  You speak of a Jnani and Iswara as the same.  How can this be so?"

Master:  "Yes. Iswara and the Jnani are the same because they are free from "I" and "mine".  The Jnani himself is Iswara, and the totality the Jivas, and also the cosmos."     

(Source:  Sri Ramana Ninaivugal, Sri Annamalai Swami.  Sri
Annamalai Asramam, Tiruvannamalai.)

Arunachala Siva.