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Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« Reply #285 on: October 13, 2012, 02:06:31 PM »
Dear Ravi,

Atma Bodham of Sri Bhagavan (Tamizh verse translaztion) is one of the wonderful works of Sri Bhagavan. He maintained 68 Venbas
to strictly conform to the 68 slokas of the original from Sri Sankara. All are Nerisai Venbas, the last one being Pahrodai Venba.
Normally, it is difficult to translate the original work, confining oneself to the same number of verses.

It was written at the request of one Muslim  devotee. Sadly, this was the last work of Sri Bhagavan, where after He did  not
compose anything, perhaps at that time onwards, His health started failing.

Arunachala Siva,.     

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« Reply #286 on: October 14, 2012, 07:57:41 AM »
Friends,
I wish to share this wonderful poem of Henry wadsworth Longfellow:

The Arrow and The Song

I shot an arrow into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For, so swiftly it flew, the sight
Could not follow it in its flight.

I breathed a song into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For who has sight so keen and strong,
That it can follow the flight of song?

Long, long afterward, in an oak
I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end,
I found again in the heart of a friend.

Nothing is lost or goes amiss.There are things that our conscious mind is only vaguely aware of-yet we take aim and 'Shoot an arrow into the air' as it were;only to rediscover later on that what we aimed for is this 'Oak' ,the Tree of Life,and our 'aim' had not gone amiss.There are also things that are dear to us and we are happy to just 'live' it;only to discover later on that someone has caught the 'inspiration' and echoes the sweet Refrains.
Namaskar.

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« Reply #287 on: October 14, 2012, 08:54:50 AM »
Beautiful and wonderful poem dear Sri Ravi!!! It is like,i just needed it. Very true,we "shoot" an arrow,not knowing where it will land,but it lands just where it needs,on true aim. Everything have its misterious purpose. Like this post for me,:) and who knows for how many others too. Nothing is lost indeed! Thank You so much sir!

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« Reply #288 on: October 14, 2012, 10:16:18 PM »
Jewell,
Yes,Friend.It is indeed one of my favourite poems since I learnt it in my school days;Intiuitively I always felt the Truth so wonderfully expressed by the poet,but to put my finger on what it conveys took time to state in words!
Wish you The Very Best.
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« Reply #289 on: October 14, 2012, 10:19:44 PM »
Nagaraj/Friends,
Our Friend nagaraj said so simply:
"owning up enlightenment is giving up enlightenment, and start living life, well"
Quite True.Just cannot agree more! I have posted it in the other thread on Enlightenment by udai.I am posting it here ,as I intend following it with what Sri aurobindo had said regarding this in his wonderful 'The Synthesis of Yoga'.

Here is such a passage from 'I Am That':
Q: The Yoga of living, of life itself, we may call the Natural Yoga (nisarga yoga). It reminds me of the Primal Yoga (adhi yoga), mentioned in the Rig-Veda which was described as the marrying of life with mind.
M: A life lived thoughtfully, in full awareness, is by itself Nisarga Yoga.
Q: What does the marriage of life and mind mean?
M: Living in spontaneous awareness, consciousness of effortless living, being fully interested in one's life -- all this is implied.
Q: Sharada Devi, wife of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, used to scold his disciples for too much effort. She compared them to mangoes on the tree which are being plucked before they are ripe. 'Why hurry?' she used to say. 'Wait till you are fully ripe, mellow and sweet.'
M: How right she was! There are so many who take the dawn for the noon, a momentary experience for full realisation and destroy even the little they gain by excess of pride. Humility and silence are essential for a sadhaka, however advanced. Only a fully ripened jnani can allow himself complete spontaneity.

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« Reply #290 on: October 14, 2012, 10:25:48 PM »
An excerpt from The Synthesis of Yoga-Sri Aurobindo:

There are two necessities of Nature's workings which seem always to intervene in the greater forms of human activity, whether these belong to our ordinary fields of movement or see those exceptional spheres and fulfilments which appear to us high and divine. Every such form tends towards a harmonised complexity and totality which again breaks apart into various channels of special effort and tendency, only to unite once more in a larger and more puissant synthesis.

Secondly, development into forms is an imperative rule of effective manifestation; yet all truth and practice too strictly formulated becomes old and loses much, if not all, of its virtue; it must be constantly renovated by fresh streams of the spirit revivifying the dead or dying vehicle and changing it, if it is to acquire a new life. To be perpetually reborn is the condition of a material immortality. We are in an age, full of the throes of travail, when all forms of thought and activity that have in themselves any strong power of utility or any secret virtue of persistence are being subjected to a supreme test and given their opportunity of rebirth. The world today presents the aspect of a huge cauldron of Medea in which all things are being cast, shredded into pieces, experimented on, combined and recombined either to perish and provide the scattered material of new forms or to emerge rejuvenated and changed for a fresh term of existence.

Indian Yoga, in its essence a specific action or formulation of certain great powers of Nature, itself specialized, divided and variously formulated, is potentially one of these dynamic elements of the future life of humanity. The child of immemorial ages, preserved by its vitality and truth into our modern times, it is now emerging from the secret schools and ascetic retreats in which it had taken refuge and is seeking its place in the future sum of living human powers and utilities. But it has first to rediscover itself, bring to the surface the profoundest reason of its being in that general truth and that unceasing aim of Nature which it represents, and find by virtue of this new self-knowledge and self-appreciation its own recovered and larger synthesis.
 
    Reorganising itself, it will enter more easily and powerfully into the reorganised life of the race which its processes claim to lead within into the most secret penetralia and upward to the highest altitudes of existence and personality. In the right view both of life and of Yoga all life is either consciously or subconsciously a Yoga. For we mean by this term a methodized effort towards self-perfection by the expression of the secret potentialities latent in the being and — highest condition of victory in that effort — a union of the human individual with the universal and transcendent Existence we see partially expressed in man and in the Cosmos.

But all life, when we look behind its appearances, is a vast Yoga of Nature who attempts in the conscious and the subconscious to realise her perfection in an ever-increasing expression of her yet unrealised potentialities and to unite herself with her own divine reality. In man, her thinker, she for the first time upon this Earth devises self-conscious means and willed arrangements of activity by which this great purpose may be more swiftly and puissantly attained. Yoga, as Swami Vivekananda has said, may be regarded as a means of compressing one's evolution into a single life or a few years or even a few months of bodily existence.

A given system of Yoga, then can be no more than a selection or a compression, into narrower but more energetic forms of intensity, of the general methods which are already being used loosely, largely, in a leisurely movement, with a profuser apparent waste of material and energy but with a more complete combination by the great Mother in her vast upward labour. It is this view of Yoga that can alone form the basis for a sound and rational synthesis of Yogic methods. For then Yoga ceases to appear something mystic and abnormal which has no relation to the ordinary processes of the World-Energy or the purpose she keeps in view in her two great movements of subjective and objective self-fulfillment; it reveals itself rather as an intense and exceptional use of powers that she has already manifested or is progressively organising in her less exalted but more general operations.


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« Reply #291 on: October 14, 2012, 10:33:24 PM »
An excerpt from The Synthesis of Yoga-Sri Aurobindo continued:

Yogic methods have something of the same relation to the customary psychological workings of man as has the scientific handling of the force of electricity or of steam to their normal operations in Nature. And they, too, like the operations of Science, are formed upon a knowledge developed and confirmed by regular experiment, practical analysis and constant result. All Rajayoga, for instance, depends on this perception and experience that our inner elements, combinations, functions, forces, can be separated or dissolved, can be new-combined and set to novel and formerly impossible workings or can be transformed and resolved into a new general synthesis by fixed internal processes. Hathayoga similarly depends on this perception and experience that the vital forces and function to which our life is normally subjected and whose ordinary operations seem set and indispensable, can be mastered and the operations changed or suspended with results that would otherwise be impossible and that seem miraculous to those who have not seized the rationale of their process. And if in some other of its forms this character of Yoga is less apparent, because they are more intuitive and less mechanical, nearer, like the Yoga of Devotion, to a supernal ecstasy or, like the Yoga of Knowledge, to a supernal infinity of consciousness and being, yet they too start from the use of some principal faculty in us by ways and for ends not contemplated in its everyday spontaneous workings.
 
 All methods grouped under the common name of Yoga are special psychological processes founded on a fixed truth of Nature and developing, out of normal functions, powers and results which were always latent but which her ordinary movements do not easily or do not often manifest. But as in physical knowledge the multiplication of scientific processes has its disadvantages, as that tends, of instance, to develop a victorious artificiality which overwhelms our natural human life under a load of machinery and to purchase certain forms of freedom and mastery at the price of an increased servitude, so the preoccupation with Yogic processes and their exceptional results may have its disadvantages and losses. The Yogin tends to draw away from the common existence and lose his hold upon it; he tends to purchase wealth of spirit by an impoverishment of his human activities, the inner freedom by an outer death. If he gains God, he loses life, or if he turn his efforts outward to conquer life, he is in danger of losing God. Therefore we see in India that a sharp incompatibility has been created between life in the world and spiritual growth and perfection, and although the tradition and ideal of a victorious harmony between the inner attraction and the outer demand remains, it is little or else very imperfectly exemplified.
 
    In fact, when a man turns his vision and energy inward and enters on the path of Yoga, he is popularly supposed to be lost inevitably to the great stream of our collective existence and the secular effort of humanity. So strongly has the idea prevailed, so much has it been emphasised by prevalent philosophies and religions that to escape from life is now commonly considered as not only the necessary condition, but the general object of Yoga. No synthesis of Yoga can be satisfying which does not, in its aim, reunite God and Nature in a liberated and perfected human life or, in its method, not only permit but favour the harmony of our inner and outer activities and experiences in the divine consummation of both.

For man is precisely that term and symbol of a higher Existence descended into the material world in which it is possible for the lower to transfigure itself and put on the nature of the higher and the higher to reveal itself in the forms of the lower. To avoid the life which is given him for the realisation of that possibility, can never be either the indispensable condition or the whole and ultimate object of this supreme endeavour or of his most powerful means of self-fuffillment. It can only be a temporary necessity under certain conditions or a specialised extreme effort imposed on the individual so as to prepare a greater general possibility for the race. The true and full object and utility of Yoga can only be accomplished when the conscious Yoga in man becomes, like the subconscious Yoga in Nature, outwardly conterminous with life itself and we can once more, looking out both on the path and the achievement, say in a more perfect and luminous sense: “All life is Yoga.”

Namaskar.
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« Reply #292 on: October 14, 2012, 10:43:20 PM »
Endless Time-Rabindranath Tagore

Time is endless in thy hands, my lord.
There is none to count thy minutes.

Days and nights pass and ages bloom and fade like flowers.
Thou knowest how to wait.

Thy centuries follow each other perfecting a small wild flower.

We have no time to lose,
and having no time we must scramble for a chance.
We are too poor to be late
.

And thus it is that time goes by
while I give it to every querulous man who claims it,
and thine altar is empty of all offerings to the last
.

At the end of the day I hasten in fear lest thy gate be shut;
but I find that yet there is time.

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« Reply #293 on: October 14, 2012, 11:25:11 PM »
अनायासेन मरणं विनादैन्येन जीवनं ।
देहि मे कृपया शम्भो त्वयि भक्तिं अचन्चलं ॥


anAyAsEna maraNam vinAdainyEna jIvanam
dEhi mE krupayA shambhO tvayI bhaktim acancalam

a painless cessation, life without misery, please, grant me, shambhO, an unwavering love in Thou

anAyAsena - AyAsa means trouble, stress, fatigue etc. anAyAsa is the opposite of that. anAyAsena means without trouble, or pain;
maraNaM - death;
vinA dainyena - dainya is poverty. vinA means without. vinAdainyena is without poverty;
jIvanaM - life;

dehi me - grant to me;
kRupayA - out of compassion;
shambhO - addressing shambhU (shivA), literally shambhU means one who is always kind;
tvayi - in you;
bhaktim - devotion;
acanchalam - unwavering.

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॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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« Reply #294 on: October 14, 2012, 11:33:24 PM »
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"In fact, when a man turns his vision and energy inward and enters on the path of Yoga, he is popularly supposed to be lost inevitably to the great stream of our collective existence and the secular effort of humanity. So strongly has the idea prevailed, so much has it been emphasised by prevalent philosophies and religions that to escape from life is now commonly considered as not only the necessary condition, but the general object of Yoga. No synthesis of Yoga can be satisfying which does not, in its aim, reunite God and Nature in a liberated and perfected human life or, in its method, not only permit but favour the harmony of our inner and outer activities and experiences in the divine consummation of both."


The true and full object and utility of Yoga can only be accomplished when the conscious Yoga in man becomes, like the subconscious Yoga in Nature, outwardly conterminous with life itself and we can once more, looking out both on the path and the achievement, say in a more perfect and luminous sense: “All life is Yoga.”

Dear Sri Ravi,

Wonderful!!! And so,so true. I cannot agree more. My own experience is just in accordance with those words. All life Is yoga,and when i look back on my whole life,all was preparation for everything which is happening now,and everything was spiritually significant. And life is not different from spirituality,any yoga,they are not in war with eachother,but very interrelated,basically one and the same thing. Life is not complete without discrimination,introspection,any metod of yoga which will help us to understand our own nature and mind,to master them, to understand Universe and God,and any kind of yoga,or spiritual and human perfection,without life itself. We cannot run from any of them,only we can unite them,and live one aware,complete,undivided life. That is the whole man then.
I believe that is the purpose of our life anyway,and true meaning of the existence of this creation and life itself.

I adore Sri Aurobindo,His teachings and His exceptional way of expression He use!

Thank You Very much dear Sri Ravi!

With love and prayers..

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« Reply #295 on: October 14, 2012, 11:57:09 PM »

अनायासेन मरणं विनादैन्येन जीवनं ।
देहि मे कृपया शम्भो त्वयि भक्तिं अचन्चलं ॥


anAyAsEna maraNam vinAdainyEna jIvanam
dEhi mE krupayA shambhO tvayI bhaktim acancalam

a painless cessation, life without misery, please, grant me, shambhO, an unwavering love in Thou

anAyAsena - AyAsa means trouble, stress, fatigue etc. anAyAsa is the opposite of that. anAyAsena means without trouble, or pain;
maraNaM - death;
vinA dainyena - dainya is poverty. vinA means without. vinAdainyena is without poverty;
jIvanaM - life;

dehi me - grant to me;
kRupayA - out of compassion;
shambhO - addressing shambhU (shivA), literally shambhU means one who is always kind;
tvayi - in you;
bhaktim - devotion;
acanchalam - unwavering.



Dear Sri Nagaraj,

Thank You Very much for detailed translation! It is a great and easy way to learn.

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« Reply #296 on: October 15, 2012, 06:59:24 AM »
Jewell,
"I adore Sri Aurobindo,His teachings and His exceptional way of expression He use! "

Absolutely,I too adore him.Whenver I read his works,there is this sense of vastness, beyond time.
It is said of the Great Russian Pianist Sviatoslav Richter(one of my favourites,especially his rendering of the Schubert sonata ,the last one(960))that the entire score of the composer is read by him at one Glance!When Richter plays,it is not the piecing together of bar after bar of music but the enunciation and expression of the Heart of the Music ;The entire musical landscape is seen and brought to the Grateful listener.
This is so typical of Sri Aurobindo in the spiritual domain.Truly a colossus.
Namaskar.

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« Reply #297 on: October 15, 2012, 07:47:50 AM »
Friends,
An Excerpt from Sri Aurobindo:
"The touch of Earth is always reinvigorating to the son of Earth, even when he seeks a supraphysical Knowledge. It may even be said that the supraphysical can only be really mastered in its fullness ... when we keep our feet firmly on the physical. 'Earth is His footing', says the Upanishad whenever it images the Self that manifests in the universe.(Paadosya vishwa bhuthaani-Purusha suktam-ravi)"

Namaskar.

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« Reply #298 on: October 15, 2012, 05:11:47 PM »
Jewell,
"I adore Sri Aurobindo,His teachings and His exceptional way of expression He use! "

Absolutely,I too adore him.Whenver I read his works,there is this sense of vastness, beyond time.
It is said of the Great Russian Pianist Sviatoslav Richter(one of my favourites,especially his rendering of the Schubert sonata ,the last one(960))that the entire score of the composer is read by him at one Glance!When Richter plays,it is not the piecing together of bar after bar of music but the enunciation and expression of the Heart of the Music ;The entire musical landscape is seen and brought to the Grateful listener.
This is so typical of Sri Aurobindo in the spiritual domain.Truly a colossus.
Namaskar.

Dear Sri Ravi,

Yes,Sri Aurobindo is truly a spiritual Giant! Even,reading His works,and have some 'bond' with Him,i believe His presence can be felt. Those words have Truth and autority which cannot be denied. And like You said,somehow,they are taking us beyond this body-mind limits.

I just listened Schubert sonata from Sviatoslav Richer,and it is Wonderful! He is taking us in some other 'dimension',some softness and flowing,like all fragance of composers work is deeply felt. Magical. Music is indeed Divine. And when someone plays it with all his heart and soul,it can lift us beyond this world.

There lies Greatness.

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« Reply #299 on: October 16, 2012, 11:59:22 AM »
udai,
Observe how the mind is seeking 'vote' to justify its pet ideas! :)
Read the entire article;I will be continuing that thread,which will cover 'utsaha' ,'Guru',and 'time'.
Namaskar.