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« Reply #1635 on: November 12, 2015, 06:50:43 AM »

Pllaces in Tiruvannamalai:-

Palakottu  - Just behind Mother's Temple.  There is a small
gate to enter the bushy forest area.  After about 100 metres,
you can see some cottages.  This is where Annamalai Swami,
Chadwick and other great men stayed.  There is a Samadhi
for Annamalai Swami.

Guru Murtham -  This is in Vetta Valam Road, about 3kms
from Asramam inside the town.  There is a Samadhi for
Guru Jnana Desikar, with a Siva Lingam.  Here Bhagavan
and a few others stayed for 6 months, when there was
no water in Virupakshi Cave area.  There is a small temple,
which is often closed.  You have to check up with nearby
houses.  In one of the houses, there is a key, they will
come and open the shrine.  You can take some camphor
and light it there.  You may pay some amount for the house
people since they invariably buy oil for the lamp.

Isanya Math -  This is on Giri Valam, main road.  Towards
the end, you have to take a deviation for about 200 mts.
and you can see Isanya Desikar Math, which is managed
by Kovilur Math.  The trust member stays in the adjacent
house, where there is a Veda Patasala.  Here is where
Isanya Jnana Desikar attained Samadhi.  Bhagavan Ramana
went for lunch one day, on the compulsion of the then Kovilur
Math Head, who took him in a bullock cart, literally lifting
Bhagavan up!  Bhagavan Ramana went there, had a lunch
and gave a small extempore discourse to students on Bhagavad Gita.  He was hardly 25 at that time.

Arunachala Siva.   

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« Reply #1636 on: November 12, 2015, 10:48:48 AM »
When I was a little girl:

Kitty Osborne:

continues....

Our relationship with Bhagavan was unusual in many ways.  Although we told Him news and gossip
and felt he was our friend, indeed our best friend;  yet still there was a feeling of deepest respect
and awe in His presence, we were not scared but we were definitely wary. Every word He uttered,
however, lightly, was sacred and freighted with meaning. Sometimes when He spoke to one person,
someone else sitting in the Hall and having no part in the conversation would hear the same words
and sense a message in them for himself.   If He gave  anyone a hint, however light about what to do
or how to be, then they would be well advised to listen and obey.  Even then His touch was so light
and subtle that one person in a room full of people might get a message and know it was for him,
while the rest just carried on with whatever they were discussing and not realize that anything
momentous had happened.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.     

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« Reply #1637 on: November 13, 2015, 09:07:37 AM »
Poosalaar Nayanar merging with Siva:


Aippasi - Anuradha Star Day:

In the olden Thondai Nadu,  is the town Tiru Ninravur that had the disciplined people of Vedic
knowledge living. Nayanar was born in the Vedic chanting tradition of that town. He learnt the
Vedas, and excelled in its wisdom. Living as a disciplined devotee he kept all the feeling of the
mind to the One Who enters through emotion and grew a great love for that Three-eyed Lord. Dependency only to the dark-blue throated and do whatever service required for His devotees
was his policy. He served to the needs of the devotees in whatever way possible. For the Homeless
Lord who gives refuge to one who surrenders he wanted to build a beautiful abode. He never
thought of his financial capacity. All that was in his mind was somehow to build an abode for the
Immortal Beauty that stole away his heart. He tried his best to gather the money required from
wherever he could but he could not get enough. He was quite disappointed.

In spite of the disappointment he never dropped the great plan to construct a magnificent abode
for the Lord. The servant of wealthy heart collected all the money needed for the holy work not
leaving a single penny in his mind itself ! He brought the chosen material for the Lord who chose
to take him as a slave. In his thoughts itself employed the highly skilled masons and other workers
for the building work.  In the growing enthusiasm that could not be quenched by the material worlds disappointments he found a day well suited as per the Agamas to lay the basement of his virtual but very much holy temple. The sincere, well contemplated work continued for a long time never stopping in the middle and he completed the altar and all the inner places of the abode. He erected a big tower and decorated with the clay forms; Digged a pond that would serve for the holy anointation of the Lord everyday; raised gigantic strong walls all around the abode; made a pleasant pond outside the abode. The abode was complete like his completeness of love. He found a day that was good for the installation and holification of the wonderful abode.

The king of the Pallava state in his intent to serve the Lord of Kaiash by building Him a temple of architectural excellence built one such temple in the capital city Kanchi. He fixed a date in consultation with the pundits suited for the holy installation in the temple. The Lord who beautifully wears the bunch of Konrai flowers came in the dream of the king and told him that the next day He would enter the great abode that Pusalar of Tiru Ninravur, did out of a long time sincere effort and asked the king to fix the date for the holification on some other later date. The Lord's play to exhibit the pure and dedicated effort of the devotee inspired the king who built a temple that stands for the sculptural beauty for ages. The king wanted to see and salute the reverend devotee Pusalar who did the coveted service that Lord Himself is waiting to enter that place. The king went to Tiru Ninravur and inquired there about the temple
Pusalar built. But he got the reply that there was no temple built by any devotee called Pusalar in that town. The king called the Vedic chanters of the town. When he asked them about Pusalar Nayanar
they told him that a flawless devotee by name Pusalar was living in that town. The king of that vast land to whose summon many small kings are waiting to come did not want to call the devotee to the place where he was, but went himself to salute the devotee.

The king asked Nayanar with folded hands where the superior temple he built for Eight armed Lord
was and as he came to know from the Lord Himself that it was the day when the Supreme enters
the abode he, wanted to salute. The simple devotee of mountain high devotion was full of fear and gratitude mixed emotions that the Lord whose sacred feet are difficult to be seen for even Vishnu and Brahma told that He would come to reside in the abode on that specified day considering even his love ! The tears of love from his eyes were there to make the place more holy. He explained the king the way he wanted to build a magnificent abode for the Lord and the financial problems because of which he went ahead with building the abode he wanted in his thoughts itself. The king wondered what a glorious thing is the love of the flawless devotees ! He prostrated the Nayanar in all humbleness and returned to his capital. The great devotee as planned completed the installation of the Lord in the splendid abode he built for the Lord whose main abode is the minds of the servants who offer flowers and prostrate Him with the face wetted in tears. The worship for the Simple Lord Siva who wears skulls and snakes went for ever in a grand fashion as told in the scriptures till Nayanar reached the holy feet of the Lord who danced in the abode he built. Let the determination and completeness of devotion because of which in spite of the material hurdles Pusalar Nayanar succeeded in His service that the Supreme appreciated stay in the mind.

Arunachala Siva.
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Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« Reply #1638 on: November 13, 2015, 11:23:26 AM »
When I was a little girl:

Kitty Osborne:


I never heard of Him repeating advice or instructions.  Only all of us whose lives revolved around
Bhagavan and the Old Hall knew that His least word was important and could be ignored only at peril.
Nothing that Bhagavan said or did was trivial and we were all aware of this at all times.  I think we
all felt that if we He knew what was happening in our lives then we were blessed somehow.

That is why perhaps I am so uncomfortable now when I hear people obviously making up things
that Bhagavan purportedly said.  After all either He is our Sad Guru whose every word is sacrosanct
or He was an elderly gentleman sitting on a couch who can be misquoted at will and we are all wasting
our time.  When someone makes up a Bhagavan statement and then someone else reports it as a fact
and eventually it finds its way into print and becomes gospel, I feel that is not just wrong, but also
stupid and dangerous.  To use Bhagavan as a way of bolstering one's own beliefs is completely the
opposite of what Bhagavan taught about denying the ego.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.                     

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« Reply #1639 on: November 14, 2015, 06:15:33 AM »
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நேர்மையான ரிக் ஷா தொழிலாளி அபித்...

நேர்மையாக இருப்பதற்கு கல்வி ,செல்வாக்கு,அந்தஸ்து போன்ற எதுவுமே தேவையில்லை, தேவை எல்லாம் எளிமையான உண்மையான மனது மட்டுமே என்பதற்கான அடையாளம்தான் அபித் குரைசி (Quareshi)
அபித் குரைசி (26)ஜெய்ப்பூரில் சைக்கிள் ரிக் ஷா ஒட்டும் தொழிலாளி,நாள் முழுவதும் வண்டியை மிதித்தால் இருநுாறில் இருந்து முன்னுாறு ரூபாய் வரை கிடைக்கும்.மழைக்காலங்களிலும், விடுமுறை நாட்களிலும் அதுகூட கிடைக்காமல் போகும்.

சில நுாறு கூட கிடைத்தால் வீட்டில் நல்ல சாப்பாடு சாப்பிடலாம், இன்னும் சில நுாறு கூட கிடைத்தால் பிள்ளைகளுக்கு நல்ல ஆடை வாங்கலாம், இன்னும் சில நுாறு கூட கிடைத்தால் ஒழுகும் கூரைவீட்டை சரி செய்யலாம் என்பதுதான் இவரது எண்ணம், பணத்திற்கான எல்லை எல்லாம். ஆயிரங்களையும் லட்சங்களையும் இவர் கனவில்கூட நினைத்துப்பார்த்தது இல்லை.

இப்படிப்பட்ட சூழ்நிலையில் அவர் வழக்கம் போல அரசு அருங்காட்சியகத்தின் பக்கம் மாலை மங்கி இருளத்துவங்கும் நேரம் வண்டியை ஒட்டிச்செல்லும் போது சாலை ஒரத்தில் பிளாஸ்டிக் பை ஒன்றைக்கண்டார்,வண்டியை ஒரமாக நிறுத்திவிட்டு அந்தப்பையை எடுத்துப்பார்த்தவருக்கு அதிர்ச்சி,காரணம் பைக்குள் கட்டுக்கட்டாக பணம்.கொஞ்சம் கூட சஞ்சலப்படாத மனதுடன் அந்தப்பணப்பையுடன் அதே சாலையில் அதே நடைபாதையில் உட்கார்ந்துவிட்டார், எப்படியும் தொலைத்தவர் பதறி அடித்துக்கொண்டு வருவார் அவரிடம் கொடுத்துவிட்டு போகலாம் என்று.

இரவு பத்து மணிவரை இப்படியே அமர்ந்திருந்தும் யாரும் வரவில்லை ஊரே ஒடுங்கிவிட்டது யாருடைய நடமாட்டமும் இல்லை பணப்பையுடன் வீட்டிற்கு சென்றவர் நடந்ததை தனது மனைவி அமினாவுடன் சொல்லியிருக்கிறார், அவர் இவருக்கும் மேல்,'இன்னும் இரண்டு மணி நேரம் காத்திருந்து பார்த்திருக்காலாமே' என்று சொல்லியவர் 'சரி. விடிந்தம் அருகில் உள்ள காவல் நிலையத்தில் கொண்டு போய் பணத்தை ஒப்படைத்துவிடுங்கள்' என்று சொல்லியிருக்கிறார்.

விடிந்ததும் காவல் நிலையம் போவதற்கு முன் அபித்திற்கு ஒரு கவலை, நாம் பணத்தை ஒப்படைக்கும் போது நமது தோற்றம் உடை போன்றவைகளை பார்த்துவிட்டு கொஞ்சம் பணத்தை எடுத்துக்கொண்டு ஒப்படைப்பதாக சொல்லிவிட்டால் நாம் என்ன செய்வது என்று பயந்து போனார்.

தனது குடியிருப்பு பகுதியில் உள்ள சமூக ஆர்வலரிடம் நடந்தை சொல்ல அவர் தைரியம் கொடுத்து கூடவே வர அதிகாலை வேளையில் பணத்தை கொண்டு போய் காவல்நிலையத்தில் ஒப்படைத்திருக்கிறார்.
பணத்தை பெற்றுக்கொண்ட காவல் நிலைய அதிகாரிக்கு ஆச்சர்யம் தாங்கமுடியவில்லை, இந்த காலத்தில் இப்படியும் ஒரு மனிதானா?அதுவும் வறுமை கொடுமையாக வாட்டும் சூழ்நிலையில் கூட நேர்மையா? என்று நினைத்தவர், ஆமாம் பையில் எவ்வளவு பணம் இருக்கிறது என்றார்.

நான் எண்ணலீங்களே எஜமான்? என்று அபித் அமைதியாக பதில் சொல்ல மேலும் ஆச்சரியத்தில் உறைந்து போன காவல்துறை அதிகாரி பணத்தை எண்ணிப்பார்த்தபோது அதில் ஒரு லட்சத்து 17 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய் இருந்துள்ளது.
இந்த தகவல் பரவிய சிறிது நேரத்தில் பணத்தை தொலைத்தவர் அலறி அடித்தபடி காவல் நிலையத்திற்கு வந்து சரியான அடையாளத்துடன் தான் தொலைத்தது ஒரு லட்சத்து 17 ஆயிரம் ரூபாய்தான் என்பதை சொல்லி பெற்றுக்கொண்டார்.

தான் ஒரு சிறுவியாபாரி என்றும் இந்த பணம் கிடைக்காவிட்டால் தற்கொலை செய்து கொண்டுஇருப்பேன் என்று சொல்லி காவல் நிலைய அதிகாரி காலில் விழப்போனவரை தடுத்து, நீ காலில் விழவேண்டியது இதே இந்த ரிக் ஷாக்காரர் அபித்தின் காலில்தான் என்று நடந்தை சொல்லியுள்ளார்.

உடனே பணத்தை தொலைத்தவர், திரும்ப கிடைத்த தொகையில் இருந்து கணிசமான தொகையை எடுத்து அபித்தின் கையில் கொடுக்க அதை அபித் வாங்க மறுத்துவிட்டார். 'வேணும்னா ரிக் ஷாவில் உட்காருங்க உங்களை வீட்டில கொண்டுபோய் பத்திரமா விட்றேன் அதுக்கு கூலியா பதினைந்து ரூபாய் கொடுங்க போதும்' என்று சொல்லியிருக்கிறார்.

செய்தியறிந்த நிருபர்கள் அபித்தை சூழ்ந்து கொண்டு, 'ஆமாம் இந்த பணத்தை வைத்து நீங்க விரும்பியதெல்லாம் செய்திருக்கலாமே?அப்படிப்பட்ட எண்ணமே வரவில்லையா?' என்று கேட்ட போது,அபித் அமைதியாக ' முதல்ல அந்த பணம் எனக்கு சொந்தமானது இல்லை, அது மட்டுமில்லை அந்த பணம் என் கையில் இருந்த நேற்றிரவு முழுவதும் எனக்கு துாக்கமே இல்லை, ஒரே பாரமா இருந்துச்சு, இப்பதான் மனசு லேசாச்சு, வழியை விடறீங்களா! வீட்ல போய் நிம்மதியா துாங்கணும்' என்றபடி சைக்கிளை மிதிக்கலானார்.

Namaskar

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« Reply #1640 on: November 14, 2015, 06:22:41 AM »
Those engaged in worldly activities, such as office work or business, should hold to the truth. Truthfulness alone is the spiritual discipline in the Kaliyuga.

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

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« Reply #1641 on: November 14, 2015, 06:32:37 AM »
உள்ளத்தாற் பொய்யா தொழுகின் உலகத்தார்
உள்ளத்து ளெல்லாம் உளன்.   294

மனத்தொடு வாய்மை மொழியின் தவத்தொடு
தானஞ்செய் வாரின் தலை.   295

பொய்யாமை அன்ன புகழில்லை எய்யாமை
எல்லா அறமுந் தரும்.   296

பொய்யாமை பொய்யாமை ஆற்றின் அறம்பிற
செய்யாமை செய்யாமை நன்று.   297

புறந்தூய்மை நீரால் அமையும் அகந்தூய்மை
வாய்மையால் காணப் படும்.   298

எல்லா விளக்கும் விளக்கல்ல சான்றோர்க்குப்
பொய்யா விளக்கே விளக்கு.   299

யாமெய்யாக் கண்டவற்றுள் இல்லை எனைத்தொன்றும்
வாய்மையின் நல்ல பிற.      300

Tirukkural
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« Reply #1642 on: November 14, 2015, 06:34:59 AM »
सत्यमेव जयते नानृतं
सत्येन पन्था विततो देवयानः ।
येनाक्रमन्त्यृषयो ह्याप्तकामा
यत्र तत् सत्यस्य परमं निधानम्

satyameva jayate nānṛtaṁ
satyena panthā vitato devayānaḥ
yenākramantyṛṣayo hyāptakāmā
yatra tat satyasya paramaṁ nidhānam

Truth alone triumphs; not falsehood.
Through truth the divine path is spread out
by which the sages whose desires have been completely fulfilled, reach
where that supreme treasure of Truth resides.

Mundaka Upanishad

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« Reply #1643 on: November 14, 2015, 01:26:58 PM »
When I was a little girl:

Kitty Osborne:

Back to the Old Hall:

We would tell Bhagavan if we repainted the front door, if someone's sister brought a new mat,
if someone got a job he had been hoping for.. just everything.  We took leave of Him before going
anywhere and greeted Him when we got back. To this day, I take leave of Bhagavan before going
on a trip and try to go to the Old Hall when I first got back.  Once a man came to tell Bhagavan
he was going to Trichy or somewhere.  Bhagavan said, 'So far' but in a negative sort of way. The man
went and found that the meeting had been changed to another town and when he got there, it was
cancelled.  He came back and told Bhagavan... and all of us all about it. Bhagavan did not say anything
but everyone thought why had not the man listened to Bhagavan in the first place.

Bhagavan never performed miracles, but every word He spoke had meaning. I have told this story
before but it seems apposite to mention again when the bullock cart driver who came to see Bhagavan
when his wife died and it was in the middle of the monsoon season and every day was one where the
rain poured down.  He could not afford to have her cremated under cover and he was at a loss, not
knowing what to do except come to Bhagavan with his trouble.  Bhagavan looked out of the window
and said, ...just as anyone might..."It may clear up this afternoon."  It was enough for the bullock cart
driver who went home and made preparations and sure enough the weather cleared up. He cremated
his wife and then the rain bucketed down again.

This story made such a deep impression on me because even then we heard of dramatic gurus who
would shout at the weather in order to loudly control the rain or the sun as the case might be.
Our Bhagavan never did anything like that.... every time anything supernatural happened it might
just as well have been any ordinary comment by any ordinary person.  But ever as children,
without being told and without , as far as I remember, ever discussing it, we knew that one word
from Bhagavan could change the world... just as we knew He would never speak that word.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.                 

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« Reply #1644 on: November 15, 2015, 11:44:51 AM »
When I was a little girl:

Kitty Osborne:

continues...

These quite noisy happy times in the Hall were great fun.  My brother and sister and I would
show Bhagavan our toys and He would inspect them gravely, giving as much attention to a
doll which could open its eyes as He did to a question of deep philosophical meaning; but when
the story and chat time were over we knew at once.  Bhagavan would turn away and into Himself
and an immediate quiet descended in the Hall.  When Bhagavan was quiet like that 'no one' spoke.


We were not the only ones who loved to sit in the Hall to be in Bhagavan's company.  There were all
the animals as well, coming and going in between the people.  The dusty dogs came in and did namaskaram before Bhagavan's couch. They all did it but I can't remember ever thinking that was
unusual, which actually I suppose it was.  The monkeys rarely come inside, they mainly chattered
to Him through the window but the peacocks would come and dance for Him...  it was beautiful. The
squirrels would come the door and look around nervously, then make a dash for His lap to get some
puffed rice or peanuts. 

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.       



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« Reply #1645 on: November 15, 2015, 12:12:50 PM »
Aiydikal Kadvaor Kon:  Siva's devotee among the 63 Saiva Saints:

The day of attaining Siva - Aippasi - Moola Star Day:


One city that was renowned throughout India for its intellectuals, institutions and ingenious
art work was Kanchipuram, the capital of the Pallavas. The king of the Pallava land who
conquered the excess of the Kali and the enemies was Aiydikal  Peruman, the king who ruled the
land with his upright royal stick of justice - the Justice of Lord Siva. With the wealth and fame, with
every life in the land sitting pride and peaceful, with the poles of enmities won over and the justice prevailing, with the great Saivam spreading its fragrance along with the knowledge of holy Vedas,
our Nayanar ruled the land.

The king felt the royal crown was a hurdle in serving the Lord and wanted to salute the Lord
singing His fame. He gave the royal throne to his son and set off to serve the Lord in the way
his will wanted to. He went to the abodes of Lord who has Moon as an ornament over His golden
matted hair and sang a Venpa  (one of the four major constructs of Tamizh poetry) each time,
serving his heart stealing Beauty. The king of the Pallava kingdom went to the King of Cosmic
dance's Chidambaram,  saluted, drank the Nectar performing dance there and offered It his
holy flower of fragrant Venpa. Staying there for some time in that holy place worshiping the God,
he continued his pilgrimage to many other innumerable abodes of the omnipresent Lord and did
his service singing the hymn on God. His salutations went on for a long time and he reached the
company of the Lovers of the Lord in the land of the Lord under His sacred feet. Let the great love
of the king of Kadavas, Aiydigal Kadavar Kon because of which he left the royal pleasures and
pride and came to sing the God's fame stay in the mind.



Arunachala Siva.
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« Reply #1646 on: November 16, 2015, 12:19:38 PM »
When I was a little girl:

Kitty Osborne:

continues...

Lakshmi the cow came sometimes as Bhagavan was her special friend, but usually he went to visit
her in the cowshed.  A rabbit came once I was told  but I never saw it, neither did I see the visiting
crow but on the way and another we all ... human and non human loved His company and to be
in His presence, and be blessed.  Perhaps even the mosquitoes, spiders and beetles were blessed!

I never learned to meditate properly although I deeply admire people who can do it. My parents
could meditate for hours but I always thought of something I just had to tell Bhagavan. Nowadays
what i tend to do is go and sit and the Hall and silently came tell Bhagavan everything He could care
to know. I tell Him the news of my home and family and ask His advice on various matters where
I need help.  Often the answers pop into my head as I sit there and I am so grateful for His wisdom
and counsel.  Of course, I could be deluding myself but I truly hope and think not.

concluded.

Arunachala Siva.       

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« Reply #1647 on: November 17, 2015, 06:59:58 AM »


Fear is due to the mind.  For the one who has controlled the mind, there is no fear.  If one
like Bhagavan Ramana could kill the mind, he becomes the boldest human being in the world.
We are the Third Eye of Siva, from where Skanda came out to kill the demons with whom
even Brahma, Vishnu and Indra feared.   

Saint Tiruvukkarasar sang:  What is there to fear about? What things will erupt which can give
fear to us?  We have got the Panchaksharam. 

Panchaksharam is called Anju-Ezhutthu in Tamizh.  Five letters.  Anju also means 'to fear'. 
The saint-poet has made pun on this word!

Arunachala Siva.   

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« Reply #1648 on: November 17, 2015, 07:07:01 AM »


Guru Gita in verse 129, speaks as to how the Guru goes about his job of conferring the Self
Knowledge to the disciple.

"Karuna khadga-patena chhitva pasashatkam sisoh
Samyogananda janakah sadgurusso'bhidhiyate."

He who by the sword of his compassion cuts the eight-fold fetters of the disciple and [thus]
gives birth to spontaneous bliss in him, is called the Guru.

The eight-fold fetters are said to be: hatred, shame, caste
[social class], [commitment to] good culture i.e. asrama,
[protecting one's] reputation i.e. maryadha, pride and egoism,
[ahankara].  All these are snapped by Guru, to make to
realize what you are. 

Once Muruganar brought a big jackfruit.  It was to give it to ashramites because that day was
his mother's annual ceremony day.  Bhagavan said:  "O, you have not left this still.  So,
you have to perform sraddha.  Where are brahmins? I am one Brahmin, [Bhagavan telling about Him!], Ramanatha Brahmachari and Viswanathan are there.  We shall find the fourth one!"  Muruganar shed tears and prostrated before Bhagavan!  Bhagavan, nevertheless allowed him to distribute
the jackfruit pieces to everyone on that day, lest it should go waste!

Now to the point which we are discussing.  Guru is the Self.  It is Is.  One without the second.
There is nothing other than That.  It is nirguna, blemishless, nitya, suddha.  Where is compassion [karuna] coming from?  Karuna is the Self's Grace.  While the Self is one without second, you cannot
separate Karuna from it, Grace from it.  It is not only Sat, it is Chit and it is Ananda. Sat Chit Ananda.
Siva is the Self and Uma is the Grace.  Grace cannot be separated and counted as one more apart
from the Self.  Grace is always feminine. But she is concorporate with Siva.  She is Ardhanareswari.  Unnamulai and Annamalai is One within One. Christians name their girl children as Grace.
No male is named Grace!  But she is part of parcel of the male principle, the Purusha.

Manikkavachagar sings:  "You have come to stay in my Heart. But the Heart is oozing nectar
of Grace."  He says in Tiru Ponnoosal, the Decade of Holy Swing, a song that describes
the swing-game of girls.

Nanjamar kandathan, andatthavar nathan.... (Tiruvachakam,
Tiru Ponnoosal, Verse 4)

He is having a blue neck [due to halahala], he is the Lord of the gods, he lives in Uttarakosa Mangai, where the clouds touch the tall walls of the city, embedded with pearls and rubies.  He stays in my Heart, with the mother of graceful words; he lives in the Hearts of all his devotees, oozing the nectar of grace; he vanquishes our birth.  Let us sing his glories, O girls with bangles made of corals and conchshells, let us play the game of golden swing! 

(Source: Guru Gita - Eng. Trans. Divine Life Society, and an article in Mountain Path, April June
2009)

Arunachala Siva.       

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« Reply #1649 on: November 17, 2015, 07:27:06 PM »
After a man has attained samadhi all his actions drop away. All devotional activities, such as worship, japa, and the like, as well as all worldly duties, cease to exist for such a person.At the beginning there is much ado about work. As a man makes progress toward God, the outer display of his work becomes less and less-so much so that he cannot even sing the name and glories of God. (To Shivanath) As long as you were not here at the meeting, people talked a great deal about you and discussed your virtues. But no sooner did you arrive here than all that stopped. Now the very sight of you makes everyone happy. People now simply say, 'Ah! Here is Shivanath Babu.' All other talk about you has stopped.

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna