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« Reply #1575 on: September 26, 2015, 04:50:03 PM »


A Brahma Jnani is ever placed on high pedestal and people  revere him.  It does not immediately mean,
that he is past all emotions.  He expresses his emotions only on extreme cases and situation and at the
drop of a hat. 

Once Ma Krishna Mayi chided her biographer.  You are writing only good things about me.
What do people think of me?  Why not you write about my anger, my disgust, my sleep during a
discourse?  Why do you treat me as a rubber doll?

We all try to treat a Brahma Jnani as a rubber doll.  We can  keep it on high pedestal once and then
crush him, kick him, caress him and push him.  Nothing will happen to the rubber doll, we think.
It is not so.

Bhagavan Ramana expressed anger very occasionally.  Once there was some tiff between Sarvadikari
and Dhandapani Swami. Both were shouting at each other and Dhandapani Swami held Sarvadikari's
neck and wanted to choke him.  Bhagavan Ramana came from behind and gave him a simple tap on
his back.  Dhandapani Swami felt as if a thunderbolt had descended! Bhagavan Ramana also chided the attendants whenever they were becoming naughty.  He has wept un controllablly when Echamma came
and reported her foster daughter's demise leaving a small kid behind!

Bhagavan Ramana once enjoyed the ganji (liquid rice porridge) and avial (mixed vegetable and curd preparation) so much that He asked for second helping!  Devotees were astonished!

Bhagavan Ramana swam on the waters of a tank in the Hill and played with Rangan, His school-mate.
He kicked him playfully while swimming. Please do not play with a Brahma Jnani as if he is a rubber
ball, always at your disposal.  He can express emotions, sometimes very powerfully that the erring
devotee cannot put up with them!

I always treat Bhagavan Ramana as my illustrious father. Sometimes, I am angry with Him.  Many times
I cry before His photograph.  Whenever I visit Tiruvannamalai, I cry before His samadhi.  These are
all good and Bhagavan takes care of me, with occasional chiding, cajoling, consoling and kicking.
In fact, I am the rubber doll for Him. And He is the player.

Arunachala Siva.   

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« Reply #1576 on: September 26, 2015, 04:54:41 PM »


This Ahamkara, Aham-sphurti and Aham principle is also described in the story of Mahabali.

Mahabali is a demon-king but known for his philanthrophy.  He never says No, to any alms-seekers.  Vaamana, the dwarf form of Narayana.  He seeks land (as alms) that cover three steps of this young
brahmin boy.  Mahabali agrees and gives out three times water on the boy's palm as a mark of promise.
By this Mahabali has given away all possessions.  Aham-kara or Aham-vritti is gone totally.  Mahabali,
now after giving the waters as promise looks up and sees Vaamana as the dance in his Heart, the
dance of I,I,I,.  There is Aham-sphurti.

Now, the boy Vaamana transforms himself as Trivakrama, the huge person who can measure the
two worlds as his two steps!  When he wants the place for the third step, Mahabali readily offers his
head. This bending of head, completes the annihilation of pure-ego that is still left.  He realizes the
Form, the Self or Arunachalam, within!

The process is similar to what Bhagavan Ramana describes in Verse 3 of Sri Arunachala Pancharatnam.  Where is this dance, the dance of I,I,I?  What is its Source?  It is Arunachalam, the non-moving Self, Brahman, Atman!

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #1577 on: September 26, 2015, 05:01:26 PM »


Of the five elements of the world, the lowest is Earth.  Water which is mightier than Earth, consumes
the Earth in great deluge. The Agni, Fire, is more powerful than Water.  The Fire consumes the water
and dries it up.  Vayu, the Air, is mightier than Fire. Vayu, the Air can put out the fire.  The Space is
the more powerful than Air.  While Air does not engage itself beyond some distance, but the Space is everywhere, even beyond the realms of Air.

Now, where is this Space?  The Space is within our mind.  There is no Space when the mind is not
there.  Mind or Ahamkara, ego is the mightiest.  But this ego-sense is also within Atma, Aham.
Ahamkara or aham-vritti gives birth to Aham-vritti and the Aham Vritti also quells in Aham, Atma, Arunachala.

Between Aham-vritti and Aham, there is Aham Sphurti.  This Aham Sphurti is the dance of I,I,I, pure
mind.  This is the dance of Nataraja, Siva in Chidambaram.  Bhagavan Ramana says this Sri Arunachala Pancharatnam, verse 2. "Nan...enru nadithiduvaiyal thaan unper thaan Idaym enriduvar thaam."

"Ever as "I" in the Heart.  You dance Hence are You called the Heart!"

This Chidakasa-tiru natanam, the dance of Siva in the inner space, gives rise to the non-moving Self. 

Aham-sphurti becomes Aham, Arunachala.

This is explained Bhagavan Ramana in Verse 3 of Sri Arunachala Pancharatnam:

Ahamukama antha amala-mathi thannaal....

He whose pure mind turned inward searches Whence this "I" arises knows the Self aright and merges in
You, Aruna Hill, as a river in the ocean.
                           
              (Tr. K. Swaminathan)

Bhagavan Ramana describes this in two verses of Sri Arunachala Akshramanamalai also.

Verse 32: Stop deceiving me, testing and proving me, Oh! Arunachala! And henceforward reveal to me instead, your form of Light!                       

 (Tr. K.Swaminathan)

Note here that Bhagavan Ramana mentions the word Jyoti or Light.  This Aham-sphurti, the dance of Chidambaram.

Verse 43:  Reveal naturally by yourself, Oh! Arunachala! That each one is himself the real Self!

                                              OR

Verse 43: You are the sole Reality, Oh! Arunachala, Reveal  Yourself, as such.
                                             
                                              OR

Verse 43:  Reality is nothing but the Self  -  This is all You reveal, is it not Oh! Arunachala?

The Aham-sphurti ends up as Siva.  The dance of Nataraja is ending as non-moving Arunachala!

The dance of Siva and his non-moving Form of Arunachala has also been indicated in Sri Arunachala
Nava Mani Malai, Verse 1.

Achalane aayinum acchavai thannuL......

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #1578 on: September 26, 2015, 07:29:37 PM »


We daily experience that the five thieves called our five senses, rent our mind and take away our peace.
But over practice, one can keep the five thieves at bay.  Once we understand that Arunachala is
within mind, the five thieves cannot rob our peace. This we should practise at least at the time of puja, meditation, etc.,

Bhagavan Ramana gives this idea in the verses 11 and 12 of Sri Arunachala Akshara Manamalai:

Verse 11:  When these five robbers, the five senses, enter my mind, are You not present there at
home to keep them out, Oh! Arunachala!

Verse 12:  You are the one without a second, the sole, real being, Oh! Arunachala!  Who can hide you
or hide from you and come in here? If strangers come in, it is with your knowledge.
All this is but your connivance.
                                              - Tr. K. Swaminathan.

Once Ekanatha was doing Sri Dattatreya Puja at home.  He was constantly engaged without his
five senses jumping out in the Puja.  He heard only the mantra that he is reciting and the form
that he is doing Puja with.  It took about 2 hours.  In these two hours, one neighbor was shouting at
the gate of his house. Noise, lot of noise.  All angry words and abuses.  Ekanatha did not hear them.
 He heard them only as sound of sound of his mantra japa.  He came out and gave a cup of milk to the neighbor.  The neighbor was astonished.  Ekanatha told him:

All this time you raised the sound of Brahman, sabdha-brahman. This cup of milk is only to show
my thanks to you!

Arunachala Siva.   

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« Reply #1579 on: September 26, 2015, 07:32:52 PM »


In Mundaka Upanishad, Sounaka asked Angirasa:

Teach me That which is the root of eveything!

Angirsa said: That which is the root of everything is That.

To know this and to merge in this is Para-vidya.  All else is
apara-vidya.  In fact, Sankara says that apara vidya is avidya.
They are knowledge but they are all not Knowledge.

Bhagavan Ramana says in Verse 27:  The true Knowledge is that which is not knowledge and ignorance. There is nothing to know excepting That.

This Para-vidya or knowledge and realization of Brahman is not only the root but also the one which
swallows everything. Bhagavan Ramana uses the Tamizh word, 'Vizhungum', that which
swallows in Verse 1 of Sri Arunachala Pancharatnam.

This is about the same thing that Brugu asked Varuna in Taittriya Upanishad.

Brugu asks:  What is That which swallows everything?

Varuna answers:  It is That.  It is Brahman which swallows everything.

Bhagavan Ramana sings in Verse 28 of Sri Arunachala Akshara-manamalai:

To feed on you I came.  Oh! Arunachala, but I have become Your food and am  at Peace.

The devotee is consumed as food by God.  To abide in God is to be consumed by Him.
                                                 
(Tr. K.Swaminathan)

This feature of Godhead or Arunachala consuming the seeker, is the fruit of total surrender, self inquiry.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #1580 on: September 27, 2015, 09:51:00 AM »
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them? - Buddha

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« Reply #1581 on: September 27, 2015, 09:52:14 AM »
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them? - Buddha

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« Reply #1582 on: September 27, 2015, 11:52:26 AM »
Narasingha Munaiyar Liberation Day:-
Purattasi - Sadhyam Star day. (26.09.2015):

Narasingha Munaiyar was the king of the state of Tirumalpudi,  where the great devotee Sundaramurthi
Nayanar,  who takes very much pride in reiterating that he is the slave of the slaves of the three eyed Lord. The king was not fond of filling the exchequer crushing the citizens, but fond of filling the heart with
the wealth of the love on the rich matted haired Lord and His devotees that does not search for flaws.
The valorous and victorious king, the slave of the Lord with the tri-headed spear, went all the ways
possible and useful in serving the moon crowned Lord's holy nice abodes. The hurdles that come in the
way got the hurdles but never was his services to the Single Lord stopped. He would not even bother for
his life in the work of the Lord who wears charmingly the horn of the boar.


The Ganga flows from whose universally spread matted hair, that Lord's holy day Ardra, he celebrated every time in a grand manner, with his great love flowing like that Ganga. He used to arrange for special wonderful
worships in the temples and used to give more than hundred golden coins along with the nice feast for the devotees who come smeared in the Holy Ash. On one such Ardra festival when he was donating to the disciplined devotees of the Lord dancing on the daemon, one person came smeared in Holy Ash with his
body exhibiting the awkward symbols of lust showing in-disciplined unchaste behaviors. All the people assembled over there moved away at his allergic sight, but the ruler of the state, our Nayanar, went with folded hands and received him. Though he was unchaste he was smeared in the sacred Ash that we
devotees consider the holiest of the holy. The king, who could rule even the in-disciplined one into the splendid discipline of Lord Siva, by his great behavior, gave him double the amount of golden coins he gave
to others. The king in saluting gesture told nice words to him and wished good-bye. In this way with the perfection of mind he did his service endlessly in his life and finally reached the Feet that are flawless, perfect and absolute. Let the grandness of vision with which Narasinga Munaiyar Nayanar served the devotees
and worshipped the God who stays in our minds.


Arunachala Siva.
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« Reply #1583 on: September 28, 2015, 06:20:25 PM »
We should love the Self and depend on the Self.  But we should deal with the world but fear the world. 

Sarvam Vastu Bhayam, says Barthruhari the famous Sanskrit poet. All worldly objects should give us also a sense of fear and not merely elation.   A healthy man fears sickness, a learned person fears that there
could be a more learned person to beat him, and a handsome person may be afraid of disease and
decay to his handsomeness.  The greatest fear for all these, is death, marana bhayam.   

The only fearless state is Self abidance and it is death-less-ness.    This is what Nachiketas asked
Yama to give.  Yama wanted to divert Nachiketas with wealth, kingdom, good food and nice dancing girls.  Nachiketas asked:  Will they not become old and decayed?  Will they not reduce in quantity and quality?
Keep these dancing girls with you.  I want only Deathlessness, where there is no fear and death.
(Katha Upanishad).

Sankara says as to what to do to ward off this fear and death. Run for the Guru, Run as if your head is
on fire!  Run quickly Do not say, Tomorrow.  Do not say:  I shall go after watching this TV serial.
Will you wait for tomorrow or the completion of the TV serial, when your head is on fire?

Saint Manikkavachagar says in Tiruvachakam, Yathirai Pathu, Verse 7, Decade on Pilgrimage:

"This world is not going to stand for ever.  Hence, we shall also
not stand here for long.  Let us go to the lotus feet of Siva, our
God with golden hue.  Do not delay, do not stand here.  IF YOU
STAY BEHIND AND DELAY, He will become rare to obtain!"

Arunachala Siva.     

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« Reply #1584 on: September 30, 2015, 11:26:43 AM »
Rudra Pasupathi Nayanar - One of the 63 Saints of Siva Canon:
Purattasi Ashwini star day.

This day is celebrated on all Saiva Maths and Saiva homes, praying to Rudra Pasupthi Nayanar.   


In the Chozha Kingdom was the village Thiruth ThalaiyUr. In that town Pasupathi was born in the tradition of chanting the holy Vedas. Pasupathi had great love for the Pati (Siva, the husband of all lives), who like the
Sun appears to shed down the Pasam (the attachments),  that mounts on the Pasus, lives.
That Pati is the supreme thing taught by the Vedas. In the Vedas, the holy hymn that takes the central
stage is Shri Rudram.  This holy hymn has in its bosom the Holy Most Mantra, for any Saivites
that is Namasivaya, the Siva Panychksharam. This is one Vedic hymn chanted at any major worship
of Lord Siva.


Nayanar principle was to keep chanting this holy hymn at which the essence of Vedic knowledge gets
pleased. In the dawn when the birds start chirping, the bees tune their rhythm, the sky wakes up with
a reddish eye and the Sun ball brisking up, he would go to the pond on which cool water the flame
colored lotuses blossom their face to receive the day and stand in the pool with the water drowning till
his neck. Like the lotus buds he would keep the hands above His head in the posture of saluting with the blooming lotus of his face budding droplets in devotion in the rhythm that is prescribed by the ancestors Nayanar would chant the Holy Rudram with the petal like feet of the Almighty delighting on His bosom
lotus.

The constant flow of his love incensed by the superior Mantra anointed the Lord in the dawn and the day.
His austerity, love and the holiness of the hymn got the blessing of the Lord who is difficult even for the celestial powers to know. With that grace of God the devotee of continuous chanting reached the abode
of the Lord painlessly. He, having got the coveted place by the chanting of the holy Rudram is called  Rudra Pasupathi Nayanar . Let the greatness of chanting His holy hymn as proven by the life of Rudra Pasupati
stay in mind.


Arunachala Siva.
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« Reply #1585 on: October 01, 2015, 07:30:59 AM »


It is said that a Guru is Sishyavith tapahaari, the one who removes the tapa or anxiety and misery of the mature disciple.

Bhagavan Ramana did exactly the same thing, whenever sincere seekers came to Him.  He removed
the anxieties and miseries, many a times, with a single gaze for a few minutes, or by answering
someone else's question.  Devaraja Mudaliar mentions about it in his Day by Day and Recollections.

But today, many gurus are sishya vithtapahaari, they quietly empty the pockets of the disciples.
Vithapahaari is one who steals the possessions.  Such gurus abound in today's India.  Give me this
donation, give me that donation, give me money for building hospitals, give me money for starting
schools, give me money for conducting mass weddings!........

Thank god, such gurus do not ask money for producing a good Hindi or Tamizh film!

Arunachala Siva.   

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« Reply #1586 on: October 02, 2015, 07:32:41 AM »



Silence is the silence of the mind.  Need not be words and deeds.

The quote of me mentioned is from T.S. Eliot.  Read his poems particularly the Waste Land and Four
Quarters.  You will understand that he was a realized person.

Arunachala Siva.   

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« Reply #1587 on: October 02, 2015, 08:07:11 AM »
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them? - Buddha

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« Reply #1588 on: October 02, 2015, 09:20:40 AM »
However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them? - Buddha

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« Reply #1589 on: October 03, 2015, 07:54:56 AM »


Narayanathu Prandhan was a Malayalee Jnani.  He was called Prandhan, which means madcap.  He
used to wander all over the village saying:  Manasile Ayilla, Manasile Ayilla.  I have not got it in the mind,
I have not got it in the mind!  People used to make fun of him.

One day, he started saying:  Manasile Aayee.  Manasile Aayee. I got it in my mind, I got it in my mind!

At that time, his guru appeared before him and asked Prandhan: What is it, that you have got in your mind?

Prandhan replied:  I got it in my mind, that I cannot get it in my mind!

His guru took Prandhan with him.

Hrudaya cannot be captured by mind.

Arunachala Siva.