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Hari

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What Ramana meant when He's said: "In the three worlds, you can follow advaitam but not with the Guru"?
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Re: In the three worlds, you can follow advaitam but not with the Guru
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 01:51:28 AM »

Dear Ramana,

A disciple should ever consider himself as "different" from the Guru, during the period of sadhana. Till one attains
self realization, though one should follow nondualistic principle, he should not show it in 'vyavahara', that is, ordinary
day to today interactions with others.  After realization, there is no 'other' and so such differentiation would not
occur. With Guru, you cannot practice, in day to day life, a sense of oneness. The Guru should still be kept in high
pedestal and you should treat him, as someone who is different from you and one should show deep respect
do all the services to him. Even so, in the world, you cannot practice advaitam till you realize all is one Brahma Swarupam.

For example, one cannot say that for me all is one and then try to drag your neighbour's wife. You will only get
beating.

On realization, such differences would not come to your mind, since everyone is the Self. On realization, even if one
sees that Guru is also the Self, still, one cannot treat him on part with oneself.  People like Muruganar realized
the Self even while Sri Bhagavan was in body and still, he treated him with a lot of respects and regards, as someone
who is different from him.

Arunachala Siva.       

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Re: In the three worlds, you can follow advaitam but not with the Guru
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 12:28:21 PM »
This is said to an ajnani. For a True Jnani, this does not apply! By default a true jnani cannot show advaita or follow advaita...

There is a rick you see, that after getting some glimpses, there is a chance that, that knowledge could go over the seekers head and may fall down. Hence Sages meant this for him!

Salutations to Bhagavan
॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
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