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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #675 on: September 18, 2013, 04:47:23 AM »
"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to."
"I don't much care where "
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go."
[Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland"]

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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #676 on: September 18, 2013, 05:03:01 AM »
"When it is not in our power to determine what is true, we ought to follow what is most probable."
[René Descartes]

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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #677 on: September 18, 2013, 05:26:03 AM »
"The Self is subtler than the subtle, greater than the great; It dwells in the heart of each living being. He who is free from desire and free from grief, with mind and senses tranquil, beholds the glory of the Atman. Although this Atman dwells in the heart of every living being, yet It is not perceived by ordinary mortals because of Its subtlety. It cannot be perceived by the senses; a finer spiritual sight is required. The heart must be pure and freed from every unworthy selfish desire; the thought must be indrawn from all external objects; mind and body must be under control; when the whole being thus becomes calm and serene, then it is possible to perceive that effulgent Atman. It is subtler than the subtle, because It is the invisible essence of every thing; and It is greater than the great because It is the boundless, sustaining power of the whole universe; that upon which all existence rests."
["Katha Upanishad"]

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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #678 on: September 18, 2013, 05:54:23 AM »
"Moderation in all things healthful; total abstinence from all things harmful."
[Xenophon]


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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #679 on: September 19, 2013, 01:38:40 AM »
"The Lord is enshrined in the hearts of all.
The Lord is the supreme reality.
Rejoice in him through renunciation.
Covet nothing. All belongs to the Lord.
Thus working may you live a hundred years.
Thus alone can you work in full freedom."

[Isha Upanishad]

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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #680 on: September 28, 2013, 12:07:44 AM »
"A dream is a wish your heart makes when you're fast asleep. In dreams you will lose your heartaches. Whatever you wish for, you keep. Have faith in your dreams, and someday, your rainbow will come smiling through. No matter how your heart is grieving, if you keep on believing, the dream that you wish will come true."
("Cinderella")
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #681 on: September 28, 2013, 12:12:28 AM »
"Good character is not formed in a week or a month. It is created little by little, day by day. Protracted and patient effort is needed to develop good character."
[Heraclitus]


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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #682 on: September 28, 2013, 12:18:40 AM »
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light."
[Plato]

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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #683 on: September 28, 2013, 12:42:48 AM »
The Venerable Nagasena stayed at the Sankheyya hermitage together with 80,000 monks.  King Milinda, accompanied by a retinue of 500 Greeks, went up to where he was, gave him a friendly and courteous greeting, and sat on one side.  Nagasena returned his greetings, and his courtesy pleased the king’s heart.

The Doctrine of Not-Self

The Chariot

And King Milinda asked him: “How is your Reverence known, and what is your name, Sir?”

Nagasena: “As Nagasena I am known, O great king, and as Nagasena do my fellow religious habitually address me.  But although parents give such names as Nagasena … nevertheless this word ‘Nagasena’ is just a denomination, a designation, a conceptual term, a current appellation, a mere name.  For no real person can here be apprehended.”

Milinda: (addressing the assembly) “Now listen, you 500 Greeks and 80,000 monks, this Nagasena tells me that he is not a real person.  How can I be expected to agree with that?”  (Turns to Nagasena) “If, most reverend Nagasena, no person can be apprehended in reality, who, then, I ask you, gives you what you require by way of robes, food, lodging, and medicines? What is it that consumes them? Who is it that guards morality, [and] practices meditation?  Who is it that kills living beings, takes what is not given, commits sexual misconduct, tells lies, drinks intoxicants?  Who is it that commits the Five Deadly Sins?  For, if there were no person, there could be no merit or demerit; no doer of meritorious or demeritorious deeds, and no agent behind them; … and no reward or punishment for them.  If someone should kill you, O Venerable Nagasena, he would not commit any murder…. What then is this ‘Nagasena’?  Are perhaps the hairs of the head ‘Nagasena’?”

Nagasena: “No, great king!”

Milinda: “Or perhaps the hairs of the body?”

Nagasena: “No, great king!”

Milinda: “Or perhaps the nails, teeth, skin, muscles, sinews, bones, marrow, kidneys, heart, liver, serous membranes, spleen, lungs, intestines, mesentery, stomach, excrement, the bile, phlegm, pus, blood, grease, fat, tears, sweat, spittle, snot, fluid of the joints, urine, or the brain in the skull – are they this ‘Nagasena’?”

Nagasena: “No, great king!”

Milinda: “Or is form this ‘Nagasena,’ or feeling, or perceptions, or impulses, or consciousness?”

Nagasena: “No, great king!”

Milinda: “Then is it the combination of form, feelings, perceptions, impulses, and consciousness?”

Nagasena: “No, great king!”

Milinda: “Then is it outside the combination of form, feelings, perceptions, impulses, and consciousness?”

Nagasena: “No, great king!”

Milinda: “Then, ask as I may, I can discover no Nagasena at all.  Just a mere sound is this ‘Nagasena,’ but who is the real Nagasena? Your Reverence has told a lie, has spoken a falsehood!  There really is no Nagasena!”

Nagasena: “As a king you have been brought up in great refinement and you avoid roughness of any kind.  If you would walk at midday on this hot, burning, and sandy ground, then your feet would have to tread on the rough and gritty gravel and pebbles, and they would hurt you, your body would get tired, your mind impaired, and your awareness of your body would be associated with pain.  How, then did you come:  on foot, or on a mount?”

Milinda: “I did not come, Sir, on foot, but on a chariot.”

Nagasena: “If you have come on a chariot, then please explain to me what a chariot is.  Is the pole the chariot?”

Milinda: “No, reverend Sir!”

Nagasena: “Is then the axle the chariot?”

Milinda: “No, reverend Sir!”

Nagasena: “Is it then the wheels, or the framework, or the flag-staff, or the yoke, or the reins, or the goadstick?”

Milinda: “No, reverend Sir!”

Nagasena: “Then is it the combination of pole, axle, wheels, framework, flag-staff, yoke, reins, and goad?”

Milinda: “No, reverend Sir!”

Nagasena: “Then is this ‘chariot’ outside the combination of pole, axle, wheels, framework, flag-staff, yoke, reins, and goad?”

Milinda: “No, reverend Sir!”

Nagasena: “Then, ask as I may, I can discover no chariot at all.  Just a mere sound is this ‘chariot’. But what is the real chariot? Your Majesty has told a lie, has spoken a falsehood!  There really is no chariot!  Your Majesty is the greatest king in the whole of India.  Of whom then are you afraid, that you do not speak the truth?”

(To Assembly) “Now listen, you 500 Greeks, and 80,000 monks, this king Milinda tells me he has come in a chariot.  But when asked to explain to me what a chariot is, he cannot establish its existence.  How can one possibly approve of that?”

The five hundred Greeks thereupon applauded the Venerable Nagasena and said to King Milinda:  “Now let your Majesty get out of this if you can!”

Milinda: “I have not, Nagasena, spoken a falsehood.  For it is in dependence on the pole, the axle, the wheels, the framework, the flag-staff, etc., that there takes place this denomination ‘chariot,’ this designation, this conceptual term, a current appellation, and a mere name.”

Nagasena: “Your Majesty has spoken well about the chariot.  It is just so with me.  In dependence on the thirty-two parts of the body and the five Skandhas there takes place this denomination ‘Nagasena,’ this designation, this conceptual term, a current appellation, and a mere name.  In ultimate reality, however, this person cannot be apprehended.”

Milinda: “It is wonderful, Nagasena, it is astonishing, Nagasena! Most brilliantly have these questions been answered!  Were the Buddha himself here, he would approve what you have said. Well spoken, Nagasena, well spoken!”
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #684 on: October 02, 2013, 06:19:00 PM »
"Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before."
[Edgar Allan Poe]


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« Reply #685 on: October 02, 2013, 06:30:59 PM »
"All things excellent are as difficult as they are rare."
[Baruch Spinoza]
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #686 on: October 02, 2013, 06:39:37 PM »
"Those who are believed to be most abject and humble are usually most ambitious and envious."
[Baruch Spinoza]

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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #687 on: October 03, 2013, 03:05:34 AM »
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #688 on: October 03, 2013, 08:19:29 PM »
"I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear."
[Martin Luther King, Jr.]

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« Reply #689 on: October 04, 2013, 01:02:09 AM »
"The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves."
[Victor Hugo]
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