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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #660 on: September 08, 2013, 07:04:15 PM »
Stray thoughts...

There is nothing more than just what is, as it is, without our interpretations!

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Absolutely agree! But this can only happen when the mind is 'empty' of judgmental and categorizing thoughts, just observing everything as it is.
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #661 on: September 08, 2013, 07:06:57 PM »
There is nothing more than just what is, as it is, without our interpretations!


Absolutely agree! But this can only happen when the mind is 'empty' of judgmental and categorizing thoughts, just observing everything as it is.

but yet again, without interpretation, we will be dead meat!

Perhaps what is required is cultured interpretation! If there is interpretation!
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #662 on: September 08, 2013, 07:08:27 PM »
Because this is the way the ego acts. Its self-rightousness, confidence and progress is by 'eating' and destroying everything of its path, literally and metaphorically. :)

so much pain, as the ego doesn't realise it is devouring itself !

Like the dog that bites a raw bone to the extant of tasing its own blood of its mouth!

Exactly.

But what is the way to dissolve the ego. If we do some 'thing' to get rid of it we actually feed it in another direction. If we do nothing, then we again feed it. I think that we can do nothing to get rid of it. It can be done only by God. :) I may be wrong but this is how I think now.
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #663 on: September 08, 2013, 07:10:04 PM »
But what is the way to dissolve the ego. If we do some 'thing' to get rid of it we actually feed it in another direction. If we do nothing, then we again feed it. I think that we can do nothing to get rid of it. It can be done only by God. :) I may be wrong but this is how I think now.

well, as i can see, it is being dissolved now, this very moment!
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« Reply #664 on: September 08, 2013, 07:11:44 PM »
we are doing yet not doing!

these conversations, simply matter of fact !

inadvertently!
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #665 on: September 08, 2013, 07:15:02 PM »
we are doing yet not doing!

these conversations, simply matter of fact !

inadvertently!

This is exactly what I had to write to you. :) I think so because during this conversation I didn't have a thought about myself although I talked about myself. :D
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #666 on: September 08, 2013, 07:17:43 PM »
This is exactly what I had to write to you. :) I think so because during this conversation I didn't have a thought about myself although I talked about myself. :D


i have to reply the same, as it is! during this conversation I didn't have a thought about myself although I talked about myself :D
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #667 on: September 08, 2013, 07:20:39 PM »
This is exactly what I had to write to you. :) I think so because during this conversation I didn't have a thought about myself although I talked about myself. :D


i have to reply the same, as it is! during this conversation I didn't have a thought about myself although I talked about myself :D

What other could I say but Sri Ram Jai Ram Jai Jai Ram! :)
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #668 on: September 08, 2013, 07:22:43 PM »


Jai Sri Jesus

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« Reply #669 on: September 08, 2013, 07:24:36 PM »
Hari, i have to express, this was one of the best conversations i have ever had here or elsewhere! i am grateful! thank you, thank the Lord! it just feels so very light!
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« Reply #670 on: September 08, 2013, 07:27:00 PM »
It is the same with me! Thank you, Lord! Thank you, Sri Nagaraj! :)
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #671 on: September 09, 2013, 12:02:24 PM »
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Q: Sri Bhagavan often says that maya [illusion] and reality are the same. How can that be?

A: Sankara was criticised for his views on maya without being understood. He said that

(1) Brahman is real,
(2) the universe is unreal, and
(3) The universe is Brahman.

He did not stop at the second, because the third explains the other two. It signifies that the universe is real if perceived as the Self, and unreal if perceived apart from the Self. Hence maya and reality are one and the same.

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« Reply #672 on: September 09, 2013, 12:04:05 PM »
Q: So the world is not really illusory?

Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharishi: At the level of the spiritual seeker you have got to say that the world is an illusion. There is no other way. When a man forgets that he is Brahman, who is real, permanent and omnipresent, and deludes himself into thinking that he is a body in the universe which is filled with bodies that are transitory, and labours under that delusion, you have got to remind him that the world is unreal and a delusion. Why?

Because his vision which has forgotten its own Self is dwelling in the external, material universe. It will not turn inwards into introspection unless you impress on him that all this external, material universe is unreal. When once he realizes his own Self he will know that there is nothing other than his own Self and he will come to look upon the whole universe as Brahman. There is no universe without the Self.

So long as a man does not see the Self which is the origin of all, but looks only at the external world as real and permanent, you have to tell him that all this external universe is an illusion. You cannot help it.

Take a paper. We see only the script, and nobody notices the paper on which the script is written. The paper is there whether the script on it is there or not.To those who look upon the script as real, you have to say that it is unreal, an illusion, since it rests upon the paper. The wise man looks upon both the Paper and script as one. So also with Brahman and the universe.
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #673 on: September 09, 2013, 12:05:46 PM »
Q: So the world is real when it is experienced as the Self and unreal when it is seen as separate names and forms?

Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharishi: Just as fire is obscured by smoke, the shining light of consciousness is obscured by the assemblage of names and forms,the world. When by compassionate divine grace the mind becomes clear, the nature of the world will be known to be not the illusory forms but only the reality.

Only those people whose minds are devoid of the evil power of maya, having given up the knowledge of the world and being unattached to it, and having thereby attained the knowledge of the self-shining supreme reality, can correctly know the meaning of the statement `The world is real.' If one's outlook has been transformed to the nature of real knowledge, the world of the five elements beginning with ether [akasa] will be real, being the supreme reality,which is the nature of knowledge.

The original state of this empty world,which is bewildering and crowded with many names and forms, is bliss, which is one, just as the egg-yolk of a multi-coloured peacock is only one. Know this truth by abiding in the state of Self.
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #674 on: September 09, 2013, 12:06:52 PM »
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