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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #510 on: August 29, 2013, 01:45:50 PM »
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #511 on: August 29, 2013, 01:49:37 PM »
"The only way you will ever awaken is through the silence, not through analyzation of facts. Not by sorting out good and bad, but through simple silence, letting go. Letting go of all thoughts, all the hurts, all the dogmas and concepts. Letting go of these things daily".
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #512 on: September 01, 2013, 11:38:54 AM »
"You must read. What is reading? I do not refer to the reading of books. But just as books give us knowledge about external matters and help even an ignorant child turn into a learned scholar, so is there a book within each of us. Try to read that book. On reading that you will be left with no doubts on any subject nor will any questions arise in your mind."
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #513 on: September 01, 2013, 11:43:31 AM »
"In kevala nirvikalpa samadhi one is not free from vasanas and does not, therefore, attain mukti. Only after the samskaras have been destroyed can one attain salvation."
[Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharishi]

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« Reply #514 on: September 01, 2013, 12:00:04 PM »
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"Mr. M. Frydman, an engineer, remarked on the subject of Grace, "A salt doll diving into the sea will not be protected by a waterproof coat".
It was a very happy simile and was applauded as such. Maharshi added, "The body is the waterproof coat"."
I don't understand exactly what did Bhagavan mean. Please, elaborate.
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #515 on: September 01, 2013, 12:22:27 PM »
Dear Hari,

My thinking is that Bhagavan ment only belief that we are body is what is stopping us to be all pervading consciousness. Even that is not true in a sense,what i have said,coz we are already that. Only wrong identification with body make us believe we are separate. Only that makes us prisoners,nothing else.
 We are already in the ocean,only false personality must go. Ocean is the reality,so also the Grace.

In one sentence,Drop the body belief and You are there.

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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #516 on: September 01, 2013, 12:26:22 PM »
Jewell,
what is the salt doll body? The salt body dissolves in the ocean and the waterproof coat remains. Did He mean that the salt doll body is the ego and even after the ego is dissolved body continues to function? But even this interpretation is not very good.
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #517 on: September 01, 2013, 12:31:32 PM »
Dear Hari,

I think that there is the meaning that salt dall cannot dissolve when it have waterproof coat. Only that. At least,i see it that way.

I dont know whole conversation,but even this is enough,if i understood well.

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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #518 on: September 01, 2013, 12:51:41 PM »
I see this answer from Bhagavan like His base teaching.

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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #519 on: September 01, 2013, 12:55:31 PM »
Dear Jewell,
yes but it is still a little mystery for me.
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #520 on: September 01, 2013, 12:59:57 PM »
I yesterday before going to bed I asked myself something. It is said that the world is in my mind. My mind 'creates' it. My mind wants happiness. Then why my mind creates such painful world?
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #521 on: September 01, 2013, 01:12:33 PM »
Because You want to get out of it. Your own Self. That is the Grace.

It needs to be like that,otherwise we would never bother. And suffering would continue,contradictions,all absurdity which makes the ego. It is its own creation,suffering,happiness,everything. He wants this,he wants that,running its tail all the time,and the irony is,ego makes it all. Even,suffering is only attitude,it is not?!

But we can stop to create this painful world,like Maharaj said,to stop giving it attention.

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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #522 on: September 01, 2013, 01:21:44 PM »
All these thoughts came after conversation with a friend of mine. It was like the Lord has brought us together. He has the doubt if everything exists because of him and only when he thinks of it. He asked me "Is it not possible my mother and brother to exist only because of me, only when I 'see' then and then when my attention goes to another object - they stop existing?". I didn't know what to say. But then this question arose in my mind and I asked him "If it is so then why the world is so painful?".

Dear Jewell, yes, pain and problems switch our attention on many question which finally lead us to God. But is that necessary? Isn't death of yourself enough stimulus for starting you search of God? Are all these pains and miseries really needed? All people I know are in pain for one reason or another (like most people) but this didn't lead them to God or to question "Who am I?" and EVEN "Why I suffer?"......
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #523 on: September 01, 2013, 01:41:31 PM »
Dear Hari,

It will lead them,when the time comes. These pains and miseries are not needed at all,but we are the ones who create them over and over again. All answers are in us,and we are alone responsable for ourselves. Pain is not something which is coming to us without any reason. It is self imposed.

In depth,It is truly a blessing,for it is waking us from long and absurd dream. And only for the mind world is painful,there is no pain apart from it. The world alone is its creation. It is based on violence,that is its nature,change,yin and yang,death and birth. But all this is only a dream,nothing more. Ocean will always be the ocean,no matter how many salt dolls are swiming in it.


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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #524 on: September 01, 2013, 02:02:50 PM »
The problem is that if the mind creates everything then it is all-powerful. If it is so then why it creates suffering and impermanence. Why it creates itself impermanent? :) Is it not more logical to create eternal and happy world without suffering? :)
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