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Re: My view of Vedanta (with quotes, pictures and so on)
« Reply #195 on: May 12, 2013, 12:49:02 PM »
"When the divine vision is attained, all appear equal; and there remains no distinction of good and bad, or of high and low."
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We are the Reality!
« Reply #196 on: May 13, 2013, 07:47:09 PM »
"There is no greater mystery than this, that we keep seeking Reality though in fact we are Reality. We think that there is something hiding Reality and that this must be destroyed before Reality is gained. How ridiculous! A day will dawn when you will laugh at all your past efforts. That which will be the day you laugh is also here and now."
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There is no help for you outside of yourself
« Reply #197 on: May 14, 2013, 01:31:37 PM »
"Never say, "O Lord, I am a miserable sinner." Who will help you? You are the help of the universe. What in this universe can help you? What can prevail over you? You are the God of the universe; where can you seek for help? Never help came from anywhere but from yourself. In your ignorance, every prayer that you made and that was answered, you thought was answered by some Being, but you answered the prayer yourself unknowingly. The help came from yourself, and you fondly imagined that someone was sending help to you. There is no help for you outside of yourself; you are the creator of the universe. Like the silkworm, you have built a cocoon around yourself. Who will save you? Burst your own cocoon and come out as a beautiful butterfly, as the free soul. Then alone you will see Truth."
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Lord Buddha's quote
« Reply #198 on: May 14, 2013, 05:14:24 PM »
"The way is not in the sky. The way is in the Heart."
(Lord Buddha)

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The greatest error according to Vedanta
« Reply #199 on: May 14, 2013, 08:46:43 PM »
"The Vedanta recognizes no sin it only recognizes error. And the greatest error, says the Vedanta is to say that you are weak, that you are a sinner, a miserable creature, and that you have no power and you cannot do this and that."
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Ramesh Balsekar's quote
« Reply #200 on: May 15, 2013, 04:16:21 PM »
"The only truth is I AM - I Exist. That is the only truth. Everything else is a concept. Rebirth is a concept. Your karma is a concept."
(Ramesh Balsekar)
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #201 on: May 15, 2013, 05:09:47 PM »
Dear Hari,

Ramesh Balsekar recently passed away.  In his study, he used to keep Sri Bhagavan's photo on the wall. When someone asked
him: Why not you keep Nisargadatta's photograph, he is reported to have said:  Both are same. But I prefer Sri Ramana's
photo.  He retired as a Deputy Chairman of Central Bank of India.


Arunachala Siva.     

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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #202 on: May 16, 2013, 09:46:47 AM »
Yes, Sri Subramanian. I have noticed that and always wondered why it is so. May be the appearance of the Absolute as Sri Ramana was more dear to him.
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Silence
« Reply #203 on: May 16, 2013, 12:39:34 PM »
"Silence is the most potent form of work."
(Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi)
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About creation
« Reply #204 on: May 16, 2013, 06:48:48 PM »
The creation theory is very interesting. We accuse the advaitins' theory that there is no creation but see the matter the other way! Why should God create anything? If He did start creating because He felt something was missing for Him this means that He is not Self-sufficient. God does not need anything. Then why He created the world? Why does God would start doing when He is Self-sufficient? I like the answer of Kashmir Shaivism - to experience the Bliss of rediscovering of Himself!
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Re: About creation
« Reply #205 on: May 16, 2013, 07:09:42 PM »
The creation theory is very interesting. We accuse the advaitins' theory that there is no creation but see the matter the other way! Why should God create anything? If He did start creating because He felt something was missing for Him this means that He is not Self-sufficient. God does not need anything. Then why He created the world? Why does God would start doing when He is Self-sufficient? I like the answer of Kashmir Shaivism - to experience the Bliss of rediscovering of Himself!

The fundamental flaw here is God feeling the need to experience bliss :).

Question: How has srishti (creation) come about? Some say it is predestined. Others say it the Lord's leela or sport. What is the truth?

Sri Ramana Maharshi: Various accounts are given in books. But is there creation? Only if there is creation do we have to explain how it came about. We may not know about all these theories but we certainly know that we exist. Why not know the '`I'' and then see if there is a creation?

Sanjay
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Re: About creation
« Reply #206 on: May 16, 2013, 07:20:13 PM »
The creation theory is very interesting. We accuse the advaitins' theory that there is no creation but see the matter the other way! Why should God create anything? If He did start creating because He felt something was missing for Him this means that He is not Self-sufficient. God does not need anything. Then why He created the world? Why does God would start doing when He is Self-sufficient? I like the answer of Kashmir Shaivism - to experience the Bliss of rediscovering of Himself!

The fundamental flaw here is God feeling the need to experience bliss :).

Question: How has srishti (creation) come about? Some say it is predestined. Others say it the Lord's leela or sport. What is the truth?

Sri Ramana Maharshi: Various accounts are given in books. But is there creation? Only if there is creation do we have to explain how it came about. We may not know about all these theories but we certainly know that we exist. Why not know the '`I'' and then see if there is a creation?

Sanjay

This is the Lord's Leela to play the game of this rediscovering of the Self. And in fact really there is no fault because everything is God's Leela and God is faultless. :)
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #207 on: May 16, 2013, 07:49:28 PM »
Dear Hari, Sanjay,

Why should God create the world and the universe.  When He is the Self - one without a second, how can a second one come?
It is not in advaita. However Sakta says, at the time of dissolution, (that means there must be creation), when the whole universe
is dissolved,  when Brahma, Vishnu and Indra died,  You (Soundarya Lahari) are playing with Siva!  Otherwise, Vaishnvam, Saivam, etc., accept the theory of creation.

If creation is really there,  then why should there be different accounts about creation?  Darwin theory says beings evolved
from ameoba to man.  Christian theory says God created world in six days and took rest on Sabbath.  Thus there are various
theories.  It is like a story. One mother wanted to feed her child.  The child wanted a story to be told.  The mother said, that
there was a barren woman (?)  who got three children.(??)  They all grew up and went with a vehicle of air, (?)  and traveled to various
places and in one place they found Akasa Pushapam (?) and wore it.  Then they went to a desert where there was cool water (?)
and they took bath.  The child says hm...hm... and then finished the food.  The purpose is served. Similarly the stories are only
to make one wonder about the Creator or God and then pray to God, do self inquiry and merge with God.

The stories are all imaginations.  The goal is to understand the Creator, and merge with him.               

Sri Bhagavan says that the world and universe come from our 'I'-thought.  There is not only no  world, no heaven nor hell.
All are imaginations.

Nevertheless, the conventional Hinduism and other religions accept the creation theory.

In Ajata Vada, (Gaudapada, Sankara and Sri Bhagavan) there is no creation, sustenance and dissolution.  There is only a Causeless Cause and that must be searched within  and one should merge with that Causeless Cause.

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Seek the Kingdom of God
« Reply #208 on: May 17, 2013, 06:03:35 PM »
""Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and everything shall be added unto you." This is the one great duty, this is renunciation. Live for an ideal, and leave no place in the mind for anything else. Let us put forth all our energies to acquire that which never fails -our spiritual perfection. If we have true yearning for realization, we must struggle, and through struggle growth will come. We shall make mistakes, but they may be angels unawares."
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Re: Various quotes and musings in the light of Vedanta
« Reply #209 on: May 17, 2013, 06:14:31 PM »
Dear Hari,

The Kingdom of God is within you. Where to search for it?  In heavens, in himalayas. No. No.

Arunachala Siva.