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Universe a picture on consciousness
« on: October 13, 2011, 06:33:53 PM »
dear friends,
Bhagavan has said in some conversations that the universe is a picture(in line with a pre written script) on consciousness.If yes, then in a certain sense can we not say that we with our Sadhana also form of the picture?
There  are two ways of looking at this .
1.We and our Sadhana form part of the pre existent picture in which case even our Sadhana is predestined.
2.Alternately we only have  Sadhana in our control and this Sadhana will decide what role we play in the pre destined script of the universe  which is infinite in magnitude and can accomodate infinite roles in the infinite picture which co-exists with the consciousness.
I think option 2 seems more plausible.Requesting others to share their views.
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Re: Universe a picture on consciousness
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 06:39:40 PM »


Dear Anand Sundaram.

Sri Bhagavan has said in a slightly different context: though all desires are to be forsaken, desire for the Self is to be retained.

In the same vein, I am of the view, that Sadhana is in our control because sadhana is done inward and all pictures of the universe
are outside.



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Re: Universe a picture on consciousness
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 06:44:06 PM »
Dear Sri Anand Sundaram,

Yes you are absolutely 100% Correct! It is true that
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the universe is a picture(in line with a pre written script) on consciousness.If yes, then in a certain sense can we not say that we with our Sadhana also form of the picture?

But Bhagavan and all the scriptures also say that we are not our body, we are the eternal Self,

When we identify with the body then our sadhana also is part of the same picture.

When we realise the self, Bhagavan has also said, we are substratum of everything really, and, everything else is just mere illusion, including our Sadhana, for really we do Sadhana only out of ignorance, avidya!


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Re: Universe a picture on consciousness
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 06:59:53 PM »


In the same vein, I am of the view, that Sadhana is in our control because sadhana is done inward and all pictures of the universe
are outside.


Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,

While you have presented your views from a different dimension, on looking ever deeper, you would appreciate, discerning even further, that, Universe is neither inside nor outside, or even within; it is not there really, it is maya! Adi Shankara said

Brahma Satyam Jaganmitya”, i.e. Brahmam is the Real existence and Jagat (world) is unreal.

Salutations to Bhagavan
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Re: Universe a picture on consciousness
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2011, 12:03:54 PM »


Dear Nagaraj,

During sadhana, the universe is still outside only.  When sadhana becomes Sadhyam, then the universe is inside.  There is no
universe, for that matter, it is only You, the Self.



Arunachala Siva.