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Subramanian.R

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Panchadasi - (169)
« on: August 28, 2008, 11:16:52 AM »
The Chapter XIV continues....

Verse 26:-  Though there is similarity between the king and
the knower of Brahman, in desirelessness, there was misery
for the king in accumulating the objects of enjoyment, and
the fear of losing them in future follows him.

Vere 27:- Both these miseries are absent for that knower
so his bliss is more than that of the king.  Besides, the king
may have desire for the bliss of the Gandharvas, but the
knower has none.

(Gandharavas are heavenly kings, so the king in the world
would like to have the bliss of Gandharvas, which he
presumes is more.  The knower, since he has got the
matchless bliss of Brahman, there is nothing more valuable
than that.)

Verse 28:- One who has become a Gandharva because of the
particular result of his meritorious actions as a man in the
present cycle of births, is called a human Gandharva.

Verse 29:- If one becomes a Gandharva in the very beginning
of the cycle, because of his meritorious actions in the earlier
cycle, he is called a celestial Gandharva.

(See Taittiriya Upanishad.)

Verse 30:- The Agnisvattas and other who dwell for a long
time in their regions are called the Pirtrus.  Thos who have
achieved the state of deities in the beginning of their cycle
are called Ajaria-devatas.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.
   

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Re: Panchadasi - (169)
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2008, 09:24:02 PM »
Many rulers of the past and present are not bothered about the welfare of humanity and they always live a life of mental conflict.
Why to compare them with saints saying that kings also enjoy bliss and they are desireless.They are one of the ugliest creatures on earth.
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Re: Panchadasi - (169)
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 09:49:38 AM »
Many rulers of the past and present are not bothered about the welfare of humanity and they always live a life of mental conflict.
Why to compare them with saints saying that kings also enjoy bliss and they are desireless.They are one of the ugliest creatures on earth.

DEAR SIR,

A PERSON WHO CAN NOT SAVE HIMSELF;  MAY IT BE KING OR ANY BODY, HOW CAN HE SAVE OTHERS.

ONLY A SELF REALISED SAINTS CAN DO SERVICE TO THE MANKIND FOREVER, AS THEY ARE IN GODLINESS AND LIVE FOREVER.

SIVA SIVA
KANNAN MEERA SANKAR

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Re: Panchadasi - (169)
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 10:14:13 AM »
Dear sankar,
                Well said.
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Re: Panchadasi - (169)
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2008, 10:38:51 AM »
Dear Raju,  Kings were given as examples in the scriptures, because
they had the highest of wealth, health (due to personal doctors),
women, lands etc.,  The kings in the past were generally doing
worldy goods for their citizens.  That is why the king is taken as
an example.  But, since he was not having the bliss of Atman,
because he did not understand the unreality of the world, the Jnani
who had the bliss of Atman was considered much much better than
the kings.  e.g. Janaka and Ashtavkara.  Some of the kings went to
Jnanis to practise atma vichara.

Arunachala Siva.       

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Re: Panchadasi - (169)
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 10:47:59 AM »
Dear subramanian,
                         I agree with your clarification.But i think such rulers are rare.
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Re: Panchadasi - (169)
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2008, 03:17:30 AM »
Dear sir

There were many kings who rulled their kingdom, later they went for tapas to get janam They took vanaprastham. There were some kings who ruled for the welfare of their public without sliping from their justice. One was there His name was Manu Needhi Chozha Seeing his justice Gods praised him and his son. Of course it gives doubt whether they were brahma janani or not. Like Janaka. In Madurai Shiva did lots of leelas with His devotees and Kings to show their bhakti.


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Re: Panchadasi - (169)
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2008, 11:19:29 AM »
Dear Ramanaduli,  Such kings like Manu Needhi Chozhan and
Sibhi Chakrvarti had exhibited excellent conducts and justice.
They might or might not have been Brahma Jnanis.  But they
were ready for Brahma Jnana, with their chitta-suddhi.

Arunachala Siva.