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Nagaraj

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Re: a doubt on Buddha way and our vedic/vedantic Ishwara and Gods
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2011, 06:42:00 PM »
Dear Graham,

Thank you for providing this clarification, this question had been lingering in me for some time now and now put to rest. According to Bhagavata Purana, totally there are 22 Avatars of Vishnu and as per Garuda Purana there are 10 Avatars mentioned and both versions includes Buddha as avatar of Vishnu. I feel over the ages, people and community sections have chosen the 10 Avatars of Vishnu as per their liking from among the 22 Avatars of Vishnu. I have observed that in Karnataka, predominantly, Buddha is included as the 9th avatara of Vishnu while Balarama is excluded from the list and in Andhra and Tamil Nadu Balarama is included in the list of 10 Avatars and Buddha is excluded from the list. This could primarily be because of the pre-dominance of Vaishnava saints and Aazhwars who are all from present day Tamil Nadu (which also included Kerala & Andhra Pradesh as well)

From Bhagavata Purana
  • Four Kumaras [BP 1.3.6] – the four Sons of god Brahma
  • Varaha [BP 1.3.7]
  • Narada [BP 1.3.8] the divine-sage who travels the worlds as a devotee of Vishnu
  • Nara-Narayana [BP 1.3.9] – the twin-sages
  • Kapila [BP 1.3.10] – a sage and one of the founders of the Samkhya school of philosophy
  • Dattatreya [BP 1.3.11] – the combined avatar of the Hindu trinity Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.
  • Yajna [BP 1.3.12] – the lord of fire-sacrifice, who took was the Indra – the lord of heaven
  • Rishabha [BP 1.3.13] – the father of King Bharata and Bahubali
  • Prithu [BP 1.3.14] – the sovereign-king who milked the earth as a cow to get the world's grain and vegetation and also invented agriculture
  • Matsya [BP 1.3.15]
  • Kurma [BP 1.3.16]
  • Dhanvantari [BP 1.3.17] – the father of Ayurveda medicine
  • Mohini [BP 1.3.17] – the enchantress
  • Narasimha[BP 1.3.18]
  • Vamana [BP 1.3.19]
  • Parasurama [BP 1.3.20]
  • Vyasa [BP] 1.3.21] – the compiler of the scriptures – Vedas and writer of the scriptures Puranas and the epic Mahabharata
  • Rama [BP 1.3.22]
  • Balarama [BP 1.3.23]
  • Krishna [BP 1.3.23]
  • Buddha [BP 1.3.24]
  • Kalki [BP 1.3.25]
From Garuda Purana (1.86.10"11)
  • Matsya, the fish-avatar who saved Manu – the progeniter of mankind from the great deluge and rescued the Vedic scriptures by killing a demon. Story can be found in the Matsya Purana.
  • Kurma, the tortoise-avatar, who helped in the Samudra manthan – the churning of the ocean. Story can be found in the Kurma Purana.
  • Varaha, the boar-avatar, who rescued the earth from the ocean, by killing her kidnapper-demon Hiranyaksha. Story can be found in the Varaha Purana.
  • Narasimha, the half man-half lion avatar, who killed the tyrant demon-king Hiranyakashipu, to rescue the demon's son Prahlada, who was a Vishnu-devotee
  • Vamana, the dwarf-avatar, who subdued the king Maha Bali. Story can be found in the Vamana Purana.
  • Parashurama, sage with the axe who killed the thousand-armed king Kartavirya Arjuna
  • Rama, the king of Ayodhya and the hero of the Hindu epic Ramayana
  • Krishna, the king of Dwarka, a central character in the Bhagavata Purana and the Mahabharata and reciter of Bhagavad Gita. However, in the original Dasavatara stotra, Balarama, the elder brother of Krishna, is stated as the eight incarnation, while Krishna (Lord Kesava) is the source of all the incarnation.
  • Gautama Buddha
  • Kalki ("Eternity", or "time", or "The Destroyer of foulness"), who is expected to appear at the end of Kali Yuga. Story can be found in the Kalki Purana.
Besides these, another four avatars are described later on in the text as follows:
  • Prshnigarbha [BP 10.3.41] – the son of Prshni
  • Hayagriva [BP 2.7.11] – the horse-faced avatar
  • Hamsa [BP 11.13.19] – the swan
  • Golden avatra [BP 11.5.32] – the avatara in Kali-yuga for propagating hari-namasankirtan.
(Source: Wikipedia)

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Re: a doubt on Buddha way and our vedic/vedantic Ishwara and Gods
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2011, 07:02:05 AM »
Every commentary is coloured by the views of the author. We have only to look at the diverse translations of classic works to see how different authors have emphasised or changed the parts they prefer; some indeed have built their own religious dogma based upon a single verse.

I remember reading a quote somewhere (paraphrased here) "The amount of truth in any work cannot be greater than the amount of truth in the author".


Nagaraj

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Re: a doubt on Buddha way and our vedic/vedantic Ishwara and Gods
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2011, 12:16:23 PM »
Dear Graham,

Similarly, There are more than 1000 recognised versions of Valimiki Ramayan and each one portrays Rama, Ravana and Sita differently. But the original Valimiki Ramayan one prevails.

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Salutations to Bhagavan
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॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
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