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Subramanian.R

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Re: Law of attraction
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2011, 06:29:37 PM »


Dear Child of Ramana,

Welcome to the Forum.  A TV-less, newspaper-less world at the
feet of Ramaneswara Mahalingam gives us immense peace.
In fact, whenever I go and stay for 3 or 4 days, I do not lose anything
without TV and newspaper

Thank you for your kind words. It is
Sri Bhagavan who is writing it through me as a medium. All glory
is only to Sri Bhagavan.

Welcome again.



Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Law of attraction
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2011, 07:06:36 PM »


Dear ramana 1359,

Asking for cure in case of cancer is definitely a good asking or a
prayer. And if God willing, will you continue to pray to him all the
rest of your life. This does not happen. It is a trade between God
and You.  God sometimes plays trade. But not all the time. If
you submit your prayer all the time, in good time and in bad times,
it means you are not trading.  You are submitting to him. This prayer
and submission becomes self surrender.  If you pray all the time,
without seeking anything but only his grace, it is total surrender.

 Cancer may be cured by God's grace; but your prayer should continue for
ever.  Most of us are not doing this.



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Re: Law of attraction
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2011, 07:34:47 PM »


Dear Ramana 1359,

I shall tell you my real life story.,  My mother was a ardent Satya
Sai Baba devotee. She was praying to on all the days and more
seriously on Thursdays.  When we were in Kolar, my sister
who had no issues, after five years of wedding, wanted to have
treatment called laperotomy, ie. setting right the womb, in Bangloare.
Kolar being near to Bangalore, she and her husband stayed with us,
My mother and I accompanied them to Bangalore for the main surgery.,
The surgery was successful and we returned after two days.  The
doctor had told them to do one more check up, after one month, to
confirm that the womb had been set right and she could conceive.
My mother became quite happy and she prayed to Satya Sai Baba
more vigorously.  Then the final check up came. She and her husband
and my mother went to Bangalore., I could not go on that day. Around
11.30 am, I got a telephone call to my office that my sister was dead,.
They are bringing the dead body in the same car.  My wife and my
brother in law came with the dead body.  As soon as my mother
entered, she cried uncontrollably and hysterically she systematically
broke all the photos of Satya Saibaba in  the puja room,  hall and drawing room.
She became a non believer in Satya Sai Baba from that day.

Now what do you say for this?  Prayers are answered sometime and some
time they are not. But should we change or drop our faith on our Guru?
Is it devotion, will it result in surrender at any time?



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Re: Law of attraction
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2011, 03:13:21 PM »


Dear Ramana 1359,

I do not know who has said this,  But there are two aspects. Sri
Ramakrishna has said, 'Even if the Guru is incompetent, it does
not matter. Your faith in him alone will carry you to the shore."

Sri Ramana also has said, the Guru is within. Sometimes a guru
outside is needed to push you in to the inner guru.

On only one occasion, when N. Balarama Reddiiar asked Sri
Bhagavan, whether he could change over from Sri Aurobindo and
come to Him, Sri Bhagavan merely said, 'Change of Guru is not
totally prohibited. However, it is all left to you and your intuitive feelings.



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Re: Law of attraction
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2011, 08:31:12 PM »
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Ask, thy shall be given. Knock, it will be opened.  What is asking?
What is knocking?  Is it for worldly benefits and pleasures.  Would
Jesus have said this only for worldly benefits?  I believe, No.

Is asking for cure from terminal disease wrong? Or asking for food when you and your family are starving? If there is plane crash and your dad was there and you've heard on TV that there is five survivers will you not pray your father to be one of these five? If all your life you desire to be a dentist will you not even unintentionally pray to God to give you a chance to work this because makes you happy? How many of you are so spiritual that you don't care about anything except your sadhana? I cannot pretend that anything material doesn't bother me. That the death of people is nothing for me because they are just illusory bodies. That I can indifferently accept that babies born with abnormalities are just "phantoms" of my mind and I must not care about them. I cannot pretend that I don't like and love some material thinks like food, animals, plants, people, rivers, seas, oceans, mountains. I cannot hide my appreciation and love to Ramana and God and just say "they are good but you know, they are just mental imagination. So let them go". I am just a man with weaknesses, desires, attachments and I can't just drop them like an apple in my right hand. Jesus came for people like me and most of the people - we are full of weakness, desires, fears, attachments, sins. So maybe Jesus also meant "worldly pleasures" too when he's said that. You maybe more spiritual, Subramaniam, but many people are not.

Dear ramana1359,

you need not pretend. Just be honest and see where you are and then work from that place. There are many misunderstandings about what "spiritual" is. Again, there is nothing wrong with these things, just don't attach yourself. If food comes - enjoy, pleasure comes - enjoy, but if displeasure comes -  do not cry, but accept, for you chose yourself to play in this ups/downs game.
About prayer. To my mind the most correct prayer to God is to thank for everything and if you want to ask something then ask for strength to go through situation He has given to you. Since 4 years or so I prayed like this "Thank you God for every second". That's all. Try it. In whatever situation and see how your mind reacts to it and work with those reactions. It is really simple, Sri Ramana would have told "Do not give to doubts and do not think "i am just weak man" or "i am this or that", but vigilantly keep practicing instead". No room for thoughts. No distance.