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Subramanian.R

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« Reply #660 on: September 28, 2012, 04:25:18 PM »
Dear Tushnim,

Dream sugar satisfies only dream state. It is ephemeral. It does not help you in the waking state.
Just because you have taken 5 spoons of sugar in dream, can you go without sugar for your morning tea?

Or taking 100 spoons of sugar in the dream, does it give you diabetes?

Dream state should not be confused with waking state.

Arunachala Siva,   

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« Reply #661 on: October 01, 2012, 12:52:48 PM »
Q: How can we restrain the mind?

M: Will a thief hand over a thief? Will the mind find itself? The mind cannot seek the mind. You have ignored what is real and are holding onto the mind which is unreal, and are also trying to find out what it is. Was the mind there in your sleep? It was not, but it is here now. The mind is therefore impermanent. Can you find the mind? The mind is not you. You think you are the mind, and therefore you ask me how it can be restrained. If it is there, it can be checked. But it is not. Understand this truth by your own search. You will discover that searching for unreality is useless -- so seek the Reality, i.e. the Self. That is the way to control the mind.

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« Reply #662 on: October 01, 2012, 07:37:29 PM »
controlling mind by self enquiry

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« Reply #663 on: October 01, 2012, 07:55:51 PM »
practice to make sure mind stays in the source

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« Reply #664 on: October 01, 2012, 08:45:29 PM »
Dear Tushnim,

In a way Yes. One has to enquire the Anatma first and keep them away neti neti. Then investigate the mind  and the Source from
which it is sprouted.  (Who am I?)

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #665 on: October 01, 2012, 09:08:14 PM »
yes agreed with subramanian garu and Tushnim garu.

who am i/self enquiry is the key.

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« Reply #666 on: October 02, 2012, 12:40:17 PM »
Q: How can we restrain the mind? (contd)

There is only one thing that is real. Everything else is only an appearance. Diversity is not its nature. We are reading the printed characters on the paper but ignoring the paper which is the background. Similarly, you are taken up by the manifestations of the mind and do not hold onto the background. Whose fault is that?

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« Reply #667 on: October 02, 2012, 12:55:39 PM »
Prashanth garu - Is this from talks? Very true...
Salutations to Bhagawan

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« Reply #668 on: October 03, 2012, 12:10:42 PM »
Dear Tushnim,

That is why Sri Bhagavan recommended thoughtless meditation. But if one is bothered with too many thoughts, one can have one
thought, say god's name,. Or one can meditate on a Light as if it is in his mind/Heart.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #669 on: October 03, 2012, 12:31:10 PM »
Dear Tushnim,

Yes. It is only becoming aware that there is no mind (thoughts) and I am only Awareness.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #670 on: October 03, 2012, 12:44:42 PM »
should not matter but because of maya we keep thinking we are the mind and hence the self control suggestions by sri krishna in bhagavad gita.

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« Reply #671 on: October 03, 2012, 12:51:18 PM »
yes agreed tushnim garu.


Q: How can we restrain the mind? (contd)

The essence of the mind is only awareness or Consciousness. When the ego, however, dominates it, it functions as the reasoning, thinking or sensing faculty. The cosmic mind is not limited by the ego, and so has nothing separate from itself and is therefore simply aware. This is what the Bible means by "I am that I AM."

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« Reply #672 on: October 04, 2012, 12:36:57 PM »
simple analysis but difficult to put in practice  :) hence reason sri krishna told as below

Bg Gita Ch6 Text35

The Blessed Lord said: O mighty-armed son of Kunti, it is undoubtedly very difficult to curb the restless mind, but it is possible by constant practice and by detachment.

Q: The difficulty is to remain in the thoughtless state, and yet carry out the thinking necessary for fulfilling our duties.

M: The one that thinks is yourself. Let action occur of its own accord. Why associate yourself with the difficulty? When you have to go outdoors you just lift your feet and go without thinking about it. Like this, the state becomes automatic, and when necessary, thinking arises and disappears of its own accord. Intuition works when there is no thought, and intuition will guide you. Those who have made big discoveries, have made them not when they were anxious about them, but in the stillness, by intuition rather than by thinking.

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« Reply #673 on: October 04, 2012, 01:23:55 PM »
yes but difficult to cut the roots  :)

I think this comparision of roots/trees with thoughts/desires is not apt.


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« Reply #674 on: October 05, 2012, 12:38:54 AM »
so then what do you exactly want to convey by your below statement sir?

>> if teh roots of the tree are cut, the tree dies.
>> if the branches are cut, its indeed difficult to kill it.