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Subramanian.R

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Dear prasanth,

Yes. Peace comes only when there is no mind/ego.  See the first paragraph of Who am I?  It is the mind which causes all sufferings.
However, vichara marga if successful, the ego is annihilated and the
peace as a child enjoys in its deep dreamless sleep is attained.



Arunachala Siva.

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Yes Sir, it is not easy to or i would say it is not possible to define the state of Bhagavan or define the state of the "Self"..  Normal human mind with ego, always wants to understand everything in some logical way or some way other. That is one reason why many people had such questions and even some devotees tend to describe saying ' Bhagavan is in so and so state, so his mind is in that state to act without ego ' which is again incorrect...  A Brahma Jnani's state cannot be defined fullest ! some expressions with comparisons can be given, still that is not just what is said.

HIS state and HIS actions cannot be defined, one can only try to explain.  If it is from GOD, it has to be accepted immediately, without any questions.


Arunachala Siva.. Arunachala Siva..

Robert Adams used to give this example a lot:
"Imagine a chalkboard, a Jnani is like a chalkboard, everything is written on the chalkboard, then erased, then again written, but chalkboard remains always unaffected. He sees images but he sees them as chalkboard i.e. as himself. To others, Jnani may appear as a body, but I can assure you that Jnani has NO BODY and is aware of it fully."
Then there was a discussion how Jnani acts in the world, again, to others it appears that he acts but he doesn't. Body does whatever it came to do and does it even better.
He gave an example of two physicists "Ajnani physicist thinks, plans, works on the project, gives effort to learn etc. while Jnani physicists does not think, does not plan, does nothing, body acts automatically and He does not need to know how it acts on its own"

It is really difficult state to explain, that's why main emphasis is on the practice and practice, practice.

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Dear Jyoti and others,

A Jnani does karma - not by his mind but through the Self within.
There is one Guru Vachaka Kovai verse on this.



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Yes sir Peace comes only when mind is controlled.

Bg Gita Ch2 Text 66

One who is not in transcendental consciousness can have neither a controlled mind nor steady intelligence, without which there is no possibility of peace. And how can there be any happiness without peace?

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Destiny (karma) is the result of past actions.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi

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Whatever this body is to do and whatever experiences it is to pass through was already decided when it came into existence.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi

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Dear sir,


This should be understood properly. If we understand properly, the total surrender is taken place. If there is totall surrender, it is easy to be SUMMA IRU. But human nature to try their "Free will". Some times some people, somewhere would escape from the trouble but  not all.


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He who is forgetful of the Self, mistaking the physical body for it, and goes through innumerable births, is like one who wanders all over the world in a dream. Thus, realizing the Self would only be like waking up from the dream-wanderings.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi

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Surrender can never be regarded as complete so long as the devotee wants this or that from the Lord.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi

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Dear prasanth,

Yes. In total surrender, when the ego is submitted to God, where is the
question of asking this or that?  When there is asking God for something or other, as you have quoted, the surrender is not total and complete.



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Dear Subramaniyan ji,


Total surrender never comes at once. The devotee has to take so many births to surrender completely. Recently I had an opportunity to listen one sat sangh where the pandit told that, it is also God's will to grant total surrender. It is our duty to take His refuge not asking grant me total surrender. Just leave everything to Him. "Be as your are".  It seems what Bhagavan says being as it is a total surrender. Is it not?


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Dear ramanaduli,

Total surrender is not asking 'give me total surrender'. Total surrender means only submission [or sacrifice] of ego.  When ego is sacrificed who will ask what?  There is no ego, so there is nothing to ask. This is total surrender.  This is what Sri Bhagavan told Mother Azhagamma when she came to see her son, in 1898 end in Christmas holidays. She wrote the sentences on a piece of paper and gave it to her.

What Sri Bhagavan told Kavyakanta was self enquiry. He asked him to find where the mantra dvani gets subsided. That subsidence is in Heart. Sri Bhagavan said: You give your attention to that place.

Both total surrender and self inquiry are described in ULLadu Narpadu verses  1 and 2 [benedictory verses].  The entire teaching is over in the first two verses themselves.



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very well said Subramanian garu.

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Awareness which already exists within everyone everywhere, is imperishable and changeless.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi

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The guru does not bring about Self-realization. He simply removes the obstacles to it.

- Sri Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi