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« Reply #585 on: July 24, 2012, 11:00:35 AM »
Q: What is the best way to get rid of thoughts?

M: Is it the mind that tries to kill itself? How can the thief catch himself? It can't be done! So the best way is to try to realize your real nature, what you really are. When we see ourselves then there are no thoughts to be got rid of.

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« Reply #586 on: July 24, 2012, 01:48:45 PM »
Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan elaborated this (i.e. how to remain in one's true nature), by stating, keeping the attention of the mind in the
Self, that is, by withdrawing the mind within, one can remain  thought free. Of course this needs a long practice and effort.

Arunachala Siva.     

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« Reply #587 on: July 25, 2012, 01:17:14 AM »
Q: My mind is not steady in meditation.

M: Whenever it wanders, turn it inward again and again. The mind is too weak. Strengthen it by practice, by reducing the thoughts to a single one.

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« Reply #588 on: July 26, 2012, 11:35:50 AM »
Q: Why did the Self manifest as this miserable world?

M: In order that you might seek It. Your eyes cannot see themselves, but put a mirror in front of them and then, and only then, do they see themselves. Similarly with creation. See yourself first and then see the whole world as the Self.

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« Reply #589 on: July 26, 2012, 02:45:22 PM »
Dear prasanth,

This is again one of the finest replies of Sri Bhagavan. Why should the world manifest as the world? Unless the world is
created, human and other living beings cannot take birth. Unless they take birth, they cannot work out their way of salvation.
So the world is necessary for the purpose of any sadhana to attain deliverance. So also the body. Now what one should do?

With great dispassion, one should see the world as unreal to begin with. Develop very high dispassion and discrimination
and follow the paths of bhakti or karma or Jnana. And ultimately with great efforts and perseverance, realize the goal.
Then the world becomes real but this time as the Self. There is nothing but Self and there is only Self.

Arunachala Siva. 

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« Reply #590 on: July 27, 2012, 02:20:37 AM »
Q: Why is it so difficult to practice meditation and to conquer the mind?

M: Because of past vasanas (tendencies), which prevent us, but we must go on trying.

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« Reply #591 on: July 27, 2012, 10:10:08 PM »
practice and effort  ..... just keep practicing and exerting great effort until you are dissatisfied enough to stop.

suffering requires much effort and practice ... truth requires no effort and cannot be practiced

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simply stop telling the story of the self and see who you are without it

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« Reply #592 on: July 30, 2012, 01:31:23 AM »
Q: How is the mind to be stilled?

M: Vichara (inquiry) alone will do it. You see the body in the Heart, you see the world in it, there is nothing separate from it, so all kinds of effort are located there.

There are different routes to Tiruvannamalai but Tiruvannamalai is the same by whatever route it is reached. Similarly, the approach to the Self varies according to the personality. Yet the Self is the same.

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« Reply #593 on: July 31, 2012, 11:21:39 AM »
Q: Why can't the mind be turned inwards despite repeated attempts?

M: It is done by abhyasa (practice) and vairagya (dispassion) and succeeds only slowly. The mind has been used to going outwards for so long, it is not easily turned inwards. A cow accustomed to grazing on others' estates is not easily confined to its shed. However, its keeper tempts it with luscious grass and fine fodder. It refuses the first time; then it takes a bit, but its innate tendency to stray asserts itself and it slips away. On being repeatedly tempted by the owner, it accustoms itself to the stall. Finally, even if let loose, it would not stray. Similarly with the mind. If once it finds its happiness within, it will not stray outwards.

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« Reply #594 on: August 01, 2012, 11:09:06 AM »
Meditation and Inquiry

This (vichara [inquiry]) is the only direct method; others are meant for those who cannot take to the investigation of the Self. This path is the highest of all and is suited only for advanced aspirants. Those who follow other paths will not be ripe for this until they are advanced on their own paths. Thus it is really by grace, whether guru, Self etc., that they are brought to this highest path. Of course, they might have practiced the other paths in previous existences and thus have been born ripe for this one; others try different methods and after progressing finally turn to Self-inquiry. But the last stages of all paths are the same: surrender of the ego.

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« Reply #595 on: August 01, 2012, 02:07:29 PM »
Dear prasanth,

This is what exactly I have been posting for ramana 1359.  The Self Inquiry is no doubt a direct path but it is not an easy
path or a fastest path. It requires maturity and ripeness of the jiva.  If anyone starts without any maturity or chittasuddhi,
they can never progress. They should obtain maturity and chittasuddhi through devotion, pujas and prayers. At some time,
the Guru within will enable one to do self inquiry.

Otherwise the self inquiry without preparation and maturity will give only a theoretical knowledge and not realization.
Chitta suddhi is only to remove the vasanas and ego.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #596 on: August 02, 2012, 11:47:16 AM »
Meditation and Inquiry (Cont'd)

This path (atma vichara [Self-inquiry]) is the direct path; all others are indirect. Atma vichara leads to the Self, the others lead elsewhere. And even if the others do arrive at the Self, it is only because they eventually arrive at the first path of vichara, which ultimately carries them to the goal. So, if in the end, the aspirant has to adopt this path, then why not do so now? Why waste time?

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« Reply #597 on: August 03, 2012, 11:16:12 AM »
Q: What is the difference between meditation and Self-inquiry?

M: Meditation is possible only if the ego is retained: there is the ego and the object meditated upon. This method is indirect. However, if we seek the ego-source, the ego disappears and what remains is the Self. This method is the direct one.

Q: (On another occasion) What is the difference between meditation and vichara (inquiry)?

M: Meditation can be upon an object, external or otherwise. Thus subject and object differ. In vichara, both subject and object are the same -- the Self.

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« Reply #598 on: August 06, 2012, 01:20:05 AM »
Q: Why is atma vichara (Self-inquiry) necessary?

M: If you do not do atma vichara, then loka vichara (deliberation about worldly affairs) creeps in! That which is not seen is sought, but not that which is obvious. When you have found what you are looking for, inquiry also ceases and you rest in it.

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« Reply #599 on: August 07, 2012, 11:33:57 AM »
Q: What is the path?

M: The method can be anything. From whatever directions the pilgrims gather, they must enter the kaaba (a holy building at Mecca containing the sacred black stone) by only one passage.

Q: People speak of different methods. Which method is the easiest?

M: The methods appear easy according to the nature of the individual. It depends upon what one has practiced before.