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« Reply #480 on: April 19, 2012, 10:36:37 AM »
Chakras and Kundalini

Q: What of chakras?

M: In yogic practice, one starts with the lowest chakra, goes down, and then rises up, wanders all through, until the brain center or the thousand-petaled lotus (sahasrara) is gained. By jnana practice one settles down in the Heart-center directly. The heart chakra of the yogis, called anahata, is not the same as this Heart. If it were, why would they progress further onto sahasrara? Moreover, the question arises because of the sense of separateness; but we are never away from that center! Before reaching anahata, or after passing it, one is still only in the center. Whether one understands this or not, one is never away from the center.

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« Reply #481 on: April 19, 2012, 06:13:47 PM »

Chakaras etc., are dependent on the yogi's practice which are mental. Whereas the Heart, or the Self can be realized by
self attention. In atma vichara, there is no mental exercise, but only sraddha is needed. See Devi Kalottaram verses for
detailed description.

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« Reply #482 on: April 20, 2012, 06:11:49 AM »
Atman alone is to be realized. Its realization holds all else in its compass. Shakti, siddhis etc, are all included in it. Those who speak of these have not realized the Atman. Atman is in the Heart and is the Heart itself. The manifestation is in the brain. The passage from heart to brain might be to be through sushumna. Yogis say the current rises up to the sahasrara and ends there. That experience is not complete. For jnana (Self-realization)they must come to the Heart. The Heart is the alpha and the omega.

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« Reply #483 on: April 23, 2012, 01:06:22 AM »
Q: The six chakras (yoga centers) are mentioned. The jiva (individual) is said to reside in the heart; is that true?

M: You need not take the Heart to be the physical organ -- that is not important. We are not concerned with anything less than the Self. About that we are certain, no doubts or discussions. The chakras are for concentration purposes and are interpreted symbolically. The current of kundalini (primal conscious energy) is ourselves.

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« Reply #484 on: April 24, 2012, 10:07:30 AM »
Q: The kundalini (primal conscious energy) is said to rise from the base of the spine.

M: That current is ourselves.

Mind is the real kundalini. The representation of kundalini as a serpent is merely to assist duller minds. The forms of representation of the chakras (energy centers) are also illusory.

The illumination is experienced in the right side of the chest, in the Heart, when the Self is realized. Kundalini and chakras exist for those who practice that path of yoga, but not for those who practice Self-Inquiry.

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« Reply #485 on: April 25, 2012, 09:58:55 AM »
Beyond Yoga

Miracles, clairvoyance, clairaudience -- what are these? They are sidetracks. The realized person is above them. The greatest miracle is to realize the Self! Some people describe hundreds of former lives seen by clairvoyance, but what use is it? Does it help them or others to know the Self? What are these lives but body-births? The true birth is in the Self. Even if you could be in England now (astrally), would it make you any better off? You would not be a bit nearer realization.

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« Reply #486 on: April 26, 2012, 01:19:04 AM »
What good will siddhis (occult powers) do? Suppose you exercise all these wonderful powers? You experience one desire and try to fulfill it, and when a fresh desire breaks out, you expend your energy and attention on that. Isn't the net result merely worry caused to the turbulent mind? If happiness is your real goal and aim, you must ultimately come back from your diversion with siddhis, and try to find yourself by inquiring who it is that wants the happiness.

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« Reply #487 on: April 27, 2012, 06:52:46 AM »
Some jnanis (those who have realized the Self) may develop siddhis (occult powers) such as invisibility. They are equal to Siva and can even grant boons, but no powers can equal Self-realization. People are not content with their idea of jnana (knowledge) and want siddhis as well. They only look at the body. They are likely to neglect the supreme happiness of jnana and get sidetracked and lost on the way, instead of following the royal path. Jnana is everything; a jnani will not waste any thought on the occult powers.

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« Reply #488 on: April 27, 2012, 07:09:51 AM »
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Some jnanis (those who have realized the Self) may develop siddhis (occult powers) such as invisibility

My understanding from the great ones teachings (specifically Narayana Guru Swami) is that these Sidhis are the road blocks which come on the way to self realization. They happen much before self realization while on the route to realization. An example is Chang dev and Muktha Bai / Jnaneshwar story. And once realized, they never even think of it of show it off :)


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« Reply #489 on: April 27, 2012, 02:39:17 PM »
Dear sanjaya,

Getting siddhic powers BEFORE REALIZATION, will divert one attention. But AFTER REALIZATION, one may or may not get siddhis,
It is like a King being accompanied by ministers sometimes in procession,.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #490 on: April 30, 2012, 02:15:31 PM »
The Maharshi is unvarying in his attitude towards psychic visions. Even when his disciples report that his own picture has appeared to them, transfigured in brilliant light, he counsels them to put aside all "form" and to remember that what is thus seen is perishable; what has an origin must have an end; it is the intuitive perception of the Self that must be seized.

A devotee claimed he had gone to Mathura and seen Krishna in a vision. The Maharshi responded:

M: The seer, the seen and the seeing were all one, all within yourself. Nobody else saw it. It was your own fancy, and yet it is also true that you really did see it.

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« Reply #491 on: April 30, 2012, 03:14:51 PM »
Yes. Sri Bhagavan never approved of any Visions. He has said once: visions at best may increase your devotion to the god
or guru whom you had seen vision. That is all.

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Q: Is it not good to acquire occult powers such as telepathy?

M: Occult powers are only in the realm of the mind. Concerning telepathy, what is the difference between hearing from far away or nearby? There can be no telepathy without a receiver, and no clairvoyance without a seer. That is what matters. Both telepathy and the radio enable one to see and hear from far away. The hearing and the seeing are the same. Whether one hears from near or far does not make any difference to the one who hears. The fundamental factor is the hearer, the subject. Without the hearer or seer there can be no hearing or seeing. The latter are both functions of the mind. The occult powers are only of the mind, they are not natural to the Self. That which is not natural, but acquired, cannot be permanent, and it is not worth trying for.

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Q: Is it not good to acquire occult powers such as telepathy? (cont'd)

M: When someone who has these limited [occult] powers is miserable, he wants to expand them, thinking he will gain happiness this way. But is that really the case? If he is miserable with limited perceptions, the misery must increase in proportion to the expanded perceptions. Occult powers will not bring happiness to anyone, but will make one all the more miserable. In any case, what are they for? To make other people praise ones ego! God, the Self, is the highest power and worth seeking the most. That which results in peace is the highest power.

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Dandepani Swami related a vivid dream he had had in which the Maharshi appeared and answered certain questions for him.

M: You were anxious to know these answers and it was your own Self which supplied them to you. I have no knowledge of having visited you.

Q: There are beautiful colors in meditation, which are a pleasure to watch. We can see God in them.

M: They are all mental concepts. All experiences in meditation--objects, feelings, or thoughts--are all only mental concepts.