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« Reply #135 on: July 20, 2011, 11:44:49 AM »


Dear prasanth,

Yes. God realization is an experience and not a description of a state.
That is why, Sri Bhagavan used to say that a Jnani 's state cannot be
described either by himself or by others. It can only be experienced.
The Self inquiry is only a guidance. The goal has to be experienced.



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« Reply #136 on: July 21, 2011, 10:07:40 AM »
19. Question: I am doing propaganda work by publishing religious teachings. I do japa, mantra, writing, singing the praises and exploits of the Lord, study, and instructions. Should I continue with this or not? In other words, while I am conducting the inquiry "Who am I?" should I continue with all the above work?

Bhagavan: If you want to do all these works and are able to do so without giving up Self-Inquiry, you may do so. The work will go on in accordance with your prarabdha (allotted destiny). You must first, though, understand what is the purpose of japa, (repetition of a mantra or the name of God) of singing and service. Be as you are. Reality is the real japa; japa and God are one. There is identity between the name and the thing named.

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« Reply #137 on: July 21, 2011, 10:46:28 AM »


Dear prasanth,

There one brahmin and a priest who was an expert in astrology.  He
was sought after by many people to tell about stolen goods, marriages
of their daughters, health etc.,  He was correct in his prediction and
he made a good lot of money in this. 

He was called by the Asramam to do puja for Mother's Temple. He
readily agreed and losing all his income, for a petty salary, he came
to work in the Asramam. When someone asked him how he had selected
this job, leaving more lucrative job, he answered: Here is where, I am
able to Atma Vichara while working. Not in other jobs.

So, all jobs of writing, lecturing etc., cannot be done, in my view,
along with Atma Vichara.  If one can do so, it is good. But Atma
Vichara can be done simultaneously only with a 'suitable work' that
can provide you food and shelter and not huge riches.



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« Reply #138 on: July 22, 2011, 12:34:34 AM »
Dear Subramanian garu,

I agree with you sir.

We cannot suggest people to practice self enquiry who loot money,rape women,murder fellow beings and for people whose day job is promoting terroism etc ...

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« Reply #139 on: July 22, 2011, 10:10:02 AM »
14. Question: I do not know, but they say that to withdraw from all sense-activity, from all thoughts, all life-experiences, i.e., to cease to be active, is the highest state.

Bhagavan: If so, what is the difference between this state and deep sleep? Besides, if it is a state, however exalted it be, that appears and disappears and is, therefore, not natural and normal to the self, how can that represent eternal presence of the supreme Self, which persists in all states and indeed survives them? It is true that there is such a state.

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« Reply #140 on: July 22, 2011, 10:14:52 AM »
20. Question: Who am I? To whom does the question refer?

Bhagavan: The question refers to the individual "I."

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« Reply #141 on: July 25, 2011, 10:07:13 AM »
21. Question: Should I say "I am Siva" along with the inquiry "Who am I?" Should I not say, "I am not the mind, intellect, body, etc.?"

Bhagavan: You should not give answers to the mind, in the course of your inquiry. The reply should be allowed to come from within. The reply of the individual "I" is not real. Continue to inquire until you get the answer by the method of Jnana Marga (the path of Knowledge). This inquiry is called meditation. The inactive, peaceful, full-of-knowledge experience that arises from this state is Jnana.

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« Reply #142 on: July 25, 2011, 02:05:40 PM »


Dear prasanth,

The Who am I?  enquiry should ultimately lead to an answer less state, where the mind becomes
quiescent and curls up into the Self.  Similarly the chanting of I am Siva is also, according to
Sri Bhagavan, incorrect. Sivoham, is the experience of Sivam that comes about after realization.



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« Reply #143 on: July 26, 2011, 10:03:34 AM »
22. Question: Who am I? From where (am I)? Should one constantly do japa (repetition) of this with the mind, or should one put the question once or twice before the mind then go deeply into the root of "I" and there stop all thoughts of the world?

Bhagavan: One is NOT to constantly repeat or do japa: "Who am I? Who am I?" Having put the question once before the mind, one should search for the root of the "I" and thereby stop all other thoughts. If a person's name is Dennis, it is not necessary for him to repeat, "I am Dennis, I am Dennis." Similarly, the repetition of the phrases such as "I am Brahman, I am Brahman" is not necessary. In all sadhanas (practices) the mind has to be kept quiet, silent, or still. While doing japa, the mind will not be quiet or still. Instead of practicing like this, the silent seer of the mind, meaning the witness, should be experienced as being the very form of Brahman, and thus Brahman should be experienced as being the witness of all.

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« Reply #144 on: July 26, 2011, 02:54:10 PM »


Dear prasanth,

Yes. Who am I? is not a mantra to be used in japam. This
is a question posed to the anatma - the non-self, the ego or
the mind, and one should on mature sadhana, will get no
answers and the mind becomes quiescent in the Self.



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« Reply #145 on: July 27, 2011, 10:07:41 AM »
23. Question: How to control such a mind?

Bhagavan: Except for inquiry into the Self, there is no way that the mind can be controlled; it is destroyed.

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« Reply #146 on: July 27, 2011, 01:11:07 PM »


Dear prasanth,

Sri Bhagavan describes this idea beautifully in His answer No. 12 to M. Sivaprakasam Pillai,
in Who am I?

Other than enquiry, there are no adequate means. If through other means it is sought to control
the mind, the mind will appear to be controlled, but will again go forth. Through the control of
breath also, the mind will become quiescent. But it  will be quiescent only so long as the breath
remains controlled and when the breath resumes,. the mind also will again start moving and will
wander as impelled by vasanas. The source  is the same for both mind and breath..... Therefore
the exercise of breath control is only an aid for rendering the mind quiescent [mano nigraha]
and not for destroying the mind [mano nasa].

Like the practice of breath control, meditation on the forms of  god, repetition of mantras, food
restrictions etc., are but aid for rendering the mind quiescent.

Through meditation on the form of god and through mantra japas, the mind becomes one pointed.
....When the mind is one pointed, it becomes strong and for such a mind self enquiry will become
easy.

Of all the restrictive rules, that  relating to the taking of sattvic food, in moderate quantities,
is the best. By observing this rule, the sattvic quality of mind will increase and that will be
helpful to Self Enquiry.



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« Reply #147 on: July 27, 2011, 11:56:41 PM »
yes sir it is very well said by bhagavan.

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« Reply #148 on: July 28, 2011, 10:04:50 AM »
24. Question: If the ultimate Reality is One and Absolute, why does the world appear as an object seen, and as different from the subject who sees it? Who is it that sees the object as distinct from himself, the subject?

Bhagavan: Who is it that is putting this question?

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« Reply #149 on: July 28, 2011, 02:07:38 PM »


Dear prasanth,

Nice. It is the ego which first gives rise to the I-thought and then the world.
If the I-thought, ego is killed there is no world to see, there is no other
to see.




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