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Jyoti

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Shiva & Shakti
« on: February 11, 2011, 08:02:58 PM »
What I understand of Hindu philosophy, Shiva does nothing, only Shakti (Devi) acts.
Is that true?
What did Bhagavan say about Shiva & Shakti?

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Re: Shiva & Shakti
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2011, 09:06:05 AM »



Dear Jyoti,

Siva if you take Him as the Self or Brahman, then, He is non moving,
eternal and ever present in the Heart.  He is simply is.  He does not
act.  It is Siva's manifesting power, Sakti, does all the activities.
She represents Energy, while Siva represents Matter. 

Siva can be there without Sakti.  That is after dissolution of the
universe, Siva remains alone, with Sakti merged inseparably with
Him.  But Sakti cannot be there without Siva. 

Electricity is there through cables.  It is only to be converted into
light energy and fan energy through bulbs and fans.  Even without
bulbs and fans are put off, still electricity is there.

If you take Siva as an anthropomorphic God, then he has a form.
He is usually called by the word Iswara by Sri Bhagavan.  Iswara
is personal god. Siva is the Self.  Even here, to distinguish both,
Sri Bhagavan and Muruganar used the words Siva and Sivam.



Arunachala Siva.   

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Re: Shiva & Shakti
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2011, 10:08:36 AM »
Siva can be there without Sakti.  That is after dissolution of the
universe, Siva remains alone, with Sakti merged inseparably with
Him.  But Sakti cannot be there without Siva.

So Mahadevi, the Divine Mother, she is not eternal in truth?  ???

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Re: Shiva & Shakti
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2011, 11:14:45 AM »



Dear Jyoti,

This is what Advaitam says.  However, when Sri Sankara wrote his
stotra-granthas, he divided the entire worship into six forms.  Amongst these, Saktam, worship of Sakti is primordial. He said that
there are six mathas [religions]:  1. Souram [Worship of Soorya, Sun] 2. Ganapatyam [Ganapati] 3. Saivam [Siva] 4. Saktam [Sakti or Mahadevi], 5. Kaumaram [Kumara, Skanda] and 6. Vaishnavam [Vishnu].  These are religious concepts.  As a philosophy Brahman or
Sivam alone is the Truth, eternally, because the Truth can be only one and not two.

Where does the Sakti go?  Sakti according to Saiva Siddhantam is
is concorporate with Siva.  They are inseparable.  This is also the
Arunachala tatvam, where Mother Sakti attained half the body of
Siva.  They are Mother-Father, inseparable.  In the electricity example, when the bulb is not there, the burning power is not disappearing. It is within the electricity, unmanifest.



Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Shiva & Shakti
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2011, 11:53:10 AM »
But the Shaktas believe that Devi is supreme reality, are they wrong or do they somehow include Sivam/Brahman with the nature of Mahadevi?

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Re: Shiva & Shakti
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 01:49:16 PM »



Dear Jyoti,

Saktam and other sub divisions cannot be wrong, otherwise, how could Sri Sankara propound it.  The fact is that all religions take the
ardent sadhaks to the Ultimate Reality.  There could be many roads
to arrive at a particular town.  It is like that.

Bhaskara Rayar attained Brahma Jnanam through Saki worship.
Arunagiri Natha attained through Muruga worship.
Saint Poetess Avvaiyar attained through Ganapati worship.
Sage Atri attained through Sun worship.
Uddhava attained though worship of Narayana.
Saiva Saints attained through Siva worship.
   



Arunachala Siva.