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Scientists unravel ice age graveyard
« on: January 24, 2011, 04:37:49 PM »
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/scientists-unravel-ice-age-graveyard/141322-2.html

London: Palaeontologists have unearthed what they say is an ice age graveyard where dozens of huge animals including mammoths, mastodons and a giant ground sloth died up to 150,000 years ago.

The fossilised remains, found from the bottom of a drained reservoir near a popular mountain ski resort in Colorado in US are thought to be one of the largest collection of animals from the last ice age to be discovered in one place.

Palaeontologists leading the dig have so far found the remains of four Columbian mammoths; 10 American mastodons, a distant relation of the mammoth and elephant; four ice age bison, which were twice the size of modern bison; a species of ice age deer; a Jefferson's ground sloth and a tiger.

The discovery, they said, has already provided some new insights into the prehistoric environment.

Researchers, including experts at the Royal Holloway University of London, are now attempting to piece together how the animals came to be buried in one place and what the ice age landscape would have looked like at the time.

"It is an amazing site and is very unusual," said Dr Kirk Johnson of the Denver Museum of Nature and Science who led the excavation.

"It is a true treasure trove of ice age fossils. Many of the fossils are pristine as they have been very well preserved. Some of the bones we recovered are still white while we are finding leaves that are still green and tree branches with the bark still on," Dr Johnson was quoted as saying by the Telegraph.

The first mammoth was discovered at the end of October when a bulldozer struck some of the ice age mammals' bones during work to expand the Ziegler Reservoir, which sits on a plateau at 8,870 feet in the Colorado Rocky Mountains.

Among the most dramatic fossils to be found during further excavations at the place was the skull of an ice age bison, Bison latifrons, with three foot long horns. Weighing nearly 18 stone, the skull measures almost eight feet across
from the tip of each horn when it was pieced together.

They also discovered the remains of trees that bore teeth marks from an ice age beaver. Other bones bore teeth marks, suggesting some of the animals may have been killed by predators, although the palaeontologists have yet to find any
remains of predators.

The animals are thought to have lived between 150,000 and 50,000 years ago when much of northern Europe and North America was covered in glaciers from the last ice age.

Dr Johnson said: "We have a large variety of fossils through a long period of time through the ice age. Mammoths and mastodons are hardly ever found together on a single site as they lived in very different environments, so here we must
have seen a change in the ecosystem around the lake.

Professor Scott Elias, an expert in fossilised insects at Royal Holloway University of London, said the findings can tell us a lot about the environment as we can find similar species around today and draw conclusions about what it was like."

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Re: Scientists unravel ice age graveyard
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 04:42:10 PM »
wonder how bhagavan ramana would have commented if someone would have showed this article?  :)

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Re: Scientists unravel ice age graveyard
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 05:10:04 PM »



Dear prasanth,

Such discoveries will surprise people like us and scientists too.
Sri Bhagavan would have kept quiet and smiled.  Perhaps, after
some minutes, He might have said:

1.  If the world is real, then these fossils and discovery thereof of by the scientists are also real.

2.  If the world is unreal, then these fossils and discovery thereof by the scientists are also unreal.



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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 05:32:24 PM »
well said Subramanian garu.

This article really suprised me and i was frankly not sure whether to believe it or not.

Yes that might be the typical answer by Sri Bhagavan Ramana.

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Re: Scientists unravel ice age graveyard
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 05:46:10 PM »



Dear prasanth,

For a Jnani like Sri Bhagavan, who has realized the Swarupam within, the one without a second, all these fossils are also Swarupam.  For Him, there is nothing other than Swarupam.  For commoners, for whom the world is real, these fossils are also real, and the discoveries are most astounding.

In fact, I read in newspapers two things, which are astonishing the world.  One is discovery of a 13th zodiac, in the earth's constellation, and this might even change the horoscopes of all.
Another is the possibility of a old star exploding into a supernova
and it will shed stunning light, day and night, for about 2 weeks, and during that time, the earth will have two suns.
   

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2011, 06:07:37 PM »
Subramanian garu,

Can you please tell me what was your frank reaction when you read those two things in newspaper sir?

My reaction is all these new discoveries are like teasers by god which will send us to wrong direction and waste our life instead of practicing self enquiry like bhagavan.

Because irrespective of how many number of discoveries we humans make there is no end :)

plants,animals are still probably living something like how humans were living in stone-age as still they eat what they get i am not sure whether their lives improved like our humans.

But End of day they seems to be quite happy and enjoying their life and we humans irrespetive of N number of discoveries still are not satisfied and looking for more and more scientific progress.

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 09:20:41 AM »



Dear prasanth,

1. About the thirteenth zodiac, I am told in some other blog by a competent person, that this will not affect our horoscopes and will
not change the birth chart.  For example, a scorpion person will remain as a scorpion person.  The earth's wobbling which takes
place once in 26,000 years has caused this appearance of 13th zodiac in the earth connected constellation.  The same person in that blog wrote that this has been taken care of, by our ancient
astrology masters, through what is called ayanamsa, that reclassification of the planets in a birth chart through navamsa etc.,

2.  Regarding the star exploding before become a supernova, this may come by the end of 2011 or 2012, but this will only give  stunning light on the earth, for about a fortnight which is not harmful.

All these come under Drishti Srishti Vada of Sri Sankara and as
accepted by Sri Bhagavan.  As one sees, these things happen.

Regarding plants and animals and birds, they will evolve into higher creation, once they confine themselves to eating, evacuation and procreation and not harming others.  For them, evolutionary improvement takes place once they do not harm others, excepting for self defence.



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Re: Scientists unravel ice age graveyard
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011, 01:05:04 PM »
well said Subramanian garu.

For carnivorous animals they have no other choice except to attack other animals.

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2011, 01:40:18 PM »



Dear prasanth,

Even these animals attack others only when they are hungry or for
self defence.  Some animals like dogs become mad [like human beings] and they bite others or when they are afraid of the humans
thinking that they would harm them.

In the life of Sri Bhagavan, even cheetahs when they came thirsty and wanted to drink water in the tank, did not attack anyone. Sri
Bhagavan used to say:  See, this hill is their home.  We are intruders.  Unless you harm them, they will not attack.  Once
Vasudeva Sastri who went for a bath to a tank in the morning came back running to Sri Bhagavan  crying that there was a cheetah.
Sri Bhagavan said:  Do not be afraid.  Please wait.  It will go and then you go for your bath.



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Re: Scientists unravel ice age graveyard
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2011, 02:07:16 PM »
yes that is true sir.


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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011, 02:22:47 PM »



Dear prasanth,

Very very rarely, the animals themselves get salvation, if a Brahma Jnani graces that animal.  We all know the story of Cow Lakshmi in
Sri Bhagavan's life.  In the life of Umapathi Sivam, a great Jnani,
living in Chidambaram, it so happened that he gave salvation to a bush.  The king was surprised.  The bush had tasted the milk that
was coming out of Chidambaram temple, after abulations to Nataraja, since it was very close to the outer wall of the temple.  Everyday, the milk streamed out through a pipe to the bush, outside the wall.  Umapathi Sivam further graced it saying, 'What else you need?  I am gracing you to attain salvation!'  The bush caught fire from nowhere and disappeared.

Umapathi Sivam, also gave salvation to a milk man called Pethan.
He was serving milk everyday promptly at a particular time to Umapathi Sivam.  Umapathi Sivam asked him:  You are doing yeomen service to me.  What do you want in return?  He said:
'Swami I want liberation!'  The milk man fell down and died and got liberated while dying.

The king who did not believe it said:  "Umapathi, unless you prove it, I shall punish you for killing that milkman!"  Umapathi agreed to prove and told the king to come to Nataraja sanctum next morning.  The king, Umapathi Sivam and a good many people went to the temple.  As the screen was rolled out next morning, near Nataraja idol, they saw Pethan on one side and the bush on the other side!



Arunachala Siva.