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saraskrishna

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Re: my experience on self-enquiry
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2011, 05:35:32 PM »
Dear All,

I agree with Udai too. That's why I'm trying to solve the issue at the source itself...  as long as we say we experience this and that.. it would mean mind is still acting or cheating us..

I have felt sometimes, my mind is cheating me by emulating or simulating the 'Self'.  For, i have read the qualities of self and remains in mind, as it will be illuminating so bright and ever lasting, may be in heart centre and etc etc.., my mind once created such a scene in my dream, or i think while waking from sleep, like a bright light emanating from heart centre and will try to make me believe this is self.. 

at such times, i only resort to Bhagawan's words. B'cos there was an experiencer still. Like, once when Bhagawan as asked what will he do if Shiva appears in front of Him and He replied saying He will question and order such shiva as not to come in front and exhibit plays... becuase that is not possible when HE Himself is THAT..

Out of all the desires, the desire to realize the self should get stronger and stronger by beating down all other feelings or emotions and we should be ready to give up anything for it without any expectation..  that should help us and take us inside as i believe..

and, meditation has to be continuous.. and for me meditation is only vicharam and it has to be as much continuous as possible. 


craving for his Grace..

with love,
Arunachala Shiva

matthias

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Re: my experience on self-enquiry
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2011, 10:12:12 AM »
I want to add that meditation is not just an antidote to the big questions like "who am I and whnece?" you know it is transforming this body into the perfect enjoyment body....

like tasting honey instead of feeling a knot.

so as long as meditation is just a mental sport, mind cannot be transformed.

thats my humble opinion and regarding advaita or mahamudra or all other non dual approaches to meditation, without proper training in beeing at peace with bodymind it is useless...

a pith instruction in mahamudra is to relaxe into whatever arises....

not focus, not watch, not ignore....relaxe....why?

because if you focus if you are tense then your lung (prana) will be contracted and your body is a knot and not honey...


I came to the comclusion that the bliss the sutras and shastras, upanisahds, the dohas, tantras etc are talking about is a total experience of body and mind not a mental state alone its complete bliss

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Subramanian.R

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Re: my experience on self-enquiry
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2011, 10:20:59 AM »


Dear matthias,

Intense meditation - I am Siva or I am god, is helpful to relax the
body and mind.  And it aids self realization very quickly.  Self
realization is not for anxious people or for agitated minds.



Arunachala Siva.

matthias

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Re: my experience on self-enquiry
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2011, 10:53:25 AM »
look at fotos of ramana he is totally relaxed...dzogchen has also the name of "final relaxation" because in non duality there is no more tension whats so ever. so if meditaiotn is mind gymnastics it is missing the point