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silentgreen

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A Question
« on: October 22, 2010, 10:39:46 AM »
What is the proof that you are not Self-realised?
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How does one know that he/she is not Self-realised?
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Subramanian.R

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Re: A Question
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2010, 11:03:28 AM »



Dear silentgreen,

I am sure, many Forum members will give you a variety of answers
to your question.

Guru Vachaka Kovai Verse 1166 says:

He whose heart is full through whatever comes of its own accord,
who has overcome all pairs of opposites, who is free from envy,
and who remains established in the state of peace, both in success
and failure, such a one, even if he performs actions, will not be
bound by them.

Bhagavan Ramana added His own Verse No. 26 after this.

He who rejoices with what comes of its own accord, who is free
from envy, who has cast off the pairs of opposites, who remains
the same in success and failure -- even if such a person performs actions, he is not entangled in them.

Now, how to evaluate ourself?

Are we rejoicing only with what comes of its own accord?
Are we free from envy?
Have we cast of the pairs of opposites?
Are we remaining the same in success and failure?
Are we performing actions without being entangled in them?

Till we get "Yes" for all the above questions, then we are self
realized.  Otherwise not.



Arunachala Siva.
             

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Re: A Question
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2010, 10:39:00 PM »
Doubt regarding  realization is the proof that I am not self realized.

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Re: A Question
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2010, 10:34:39 AM »



Dear S. Subramanian,

Yes.  Many devotees used to ask the standard question to Bhagavan:

"Bhagavan!  Why I am not self realized?"

Bhagavan Ramana used to reply:  "Who says that you are not self
realized?  Is it body?  Body is insentient.  It won't ask this question.
Is it Atma?  Atma has no need to ask this question.  Then who is
asking this question?  For whom is this doubt?  Find out the doubter."

Ultimately everything boils down to ego.  Permanent abidance in
egoless state is liberation. 

Bhagavan Ramana says this in Verse 26, of ULLadu Narpadu. "If there is ego, everything is.  If there is ego, there is nothing.  Ego is everything.  Seek what is this ego, this is true search or inquiry."
He completes ULLadu Narpadu:  "... I say, Liberation is the extinction
of the ego....."



Arunachala Siva.