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« Reply #5115 on: October 17, 2017, 03:03:07 PM »
A visitor from Bengal: Shankara says that we are all free, not bound, and that we shall all return to God from whom we came, like sparks from a fire. If that is so, why should we not commit all sorts of sins?


Sri Bhagwan: It is true that we are not bound. That is to say, the real Self has no bondage. And it is true that you will eventually return to your Source. But meanwhile, if you commit sins, as you call them, you have to face the consequences. You cannot escape them. If a man beats you, can you say: 'I am free. I am not affected by the beating and feel no pain. Let him continue beating?' If you can really feel that, then you can do what you like, but what is the use of just saying in words that you are free?



   
Dear devotees, as is obvious, egos cannot say that we all are free, not bound, for, ego is not free.  This is what is, in my view, implied by Sri Bhagwan in His response to the visitor's question. That being a spark from God, we shall return to God from where we came, and therefore, should commit all sorts of sins, simply cannot be the point of view of the egos. However, such observation can be made by the ego only, and not by a Self-realized Jnani.
Pranam,
 Anil
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« Reply #5116 on: October 17, 2017, 08:26:09 PM »
Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,


I wished to respond to your question here regarding Eka Sloki of Sri Bhagwan and Sri Sankra as following:

An Eka Sloki is a single stanza poem which portrays and conveys the essence of Sacred Texts and Holy Revelations of the Sages. Sri Bhagwan's Eka Sloki is certainly the famous Verse which was included in Sri Ramana Gita as V.2 in Ch. 2.  This Verse, in itself, contains the whole essence of His Revelation. While the first part depicts the Realization, the second part of the Verse points out the way or the means to It. It is regarded by many as the most important Verse of Sri Bhagwan:


Hridaya Kuhara Madhye Kevalam BrahmaMaathram
Hyahamahamithi Saakshaath Aathma Rupena Bhathi
Hridi Visha Manasa Svam Chinvata Majjata Va
Pavanachalana Rodhat Aatmanishto Bhavathvam?


In the inmost core, the Heart
Shines as Brahman alone,
As ?I-I?, the Self aware.
Enter deep into the Heart
By searching for Self, or diving deep,
Or with breath under check.
Thus abide ever in Atman.

V.2-2, Sri Ramana Gita



Similarly, as far as I know, Sri Sankara's Eka Sloki is presented as a dialogue between the Guru and the disciple. In response to a question raised by the disciple on Realization of Self, the Guru replies and a conversation follows:



Eka sloki of Sri Sankara goes like:

Kim Jyothistava Bhaanumaanahani Me Ratrau Pradeepadikam
Shyaadevam, Ravideepadarshanavidhau Kim Jyothiraakhyahi me
Chakshuhtasya Nimeelanaadisamaye Kim Dheehrdheeyo Darshane
Kim Tatraahamatho Bhavaanparamakam Jyothihtadasmi Prabho

Guru: How do you see (What is that light/power which helps you see?)
Sishya: I see with the help of sunlight
Guru: How do you see in the night?
Sishya: I see with the help of a lamp
Guru: Let that be so. How do you see the light? How do you see (your visualizations) even before you open your eyes?
Sishya: It is with my intellect
Guru: What helps you see (know) that intellect?
Sishya: This is me (me as pure consciousness)
Guru: (Indeed) You are that supreme light
Sishya: I realize that I am.


The Eka Sloki of Sri Sankara  has been included, in a slightly altered form, as V. 6, Supplement: Ulladu Narpadu also.


Thanks very much.
Pranam,
 Anil 
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« Reply #5117 on: October 18, 2017, 08:45:22 AM »
Dear Anil,

Thank you very much for your post giving the two slokas of Sri Bhagavan and Sri
Sankara.

Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #5118 on: October 18, 2017, 09:40:10 AM »
यह  तन  विष  की  बेलरी , गुरु  अमृत  की  खान  |
सीस  दिए  जो  गुरु  मिले , तो  भी  सस्ता  जान  ||

Sri Kabir

This body is a bag of poison. The Guru is the Ocean (Mine) of nectar. If you get the Guru by sacrificing your head, that should be a cheap deal.


Dear devotees, if one obtains the Guru-God by sacrificing one's head, that's not only a cheap deal but an infinitely profitable bargain. Is it not? I feel that most of us would agree.
Pranam,
 Anil
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« Reply #5119 on: October 18, 2017, 10:52:20 AM »
Sri Ramakrishna Paramhamsa: Haven't you noticed the flame of a candle? The slightest wind makes it waver. The state of yoga is like the candle-flame in a windless place.  The mind is dispersed. Part of it has gone to Dacca, part to Delhi, and another part to Coochbehar. That mind is to be gathered in; it must be concentrated on one object. If you want sixteen annas' worth of cloth, then you have to pay the merchant the full sixteen annas. Yoga is not possible if there is the slightest obstacle. If there is any break in the telegraph-wire, then the news cannot be transmitted.




Dear Devotees,

What is the meaning of the strength of the mind? Sri Bhagwan has taught that the ability of the mind to concentrate on a single thought, to the exclusion of all other thoughts, that is, without being distracted, is its strength. It has been said in the Gita also that the nature of the mind is to wander. However, Gita also enjoins that whenever mind jumps to other thoughts, one must bring one's mind back and made to bear on the thought of the Self or God or an Ideal of one's preference or choice. By steady practice with perseverance mind can not only be controlled, but can be made one-pointed and razor-sharp.

Dear devotees, thinking furiously is, contrary to general perception, not the strength of the mind but its weakness. Sri Bhagwan has taught that wavering of the mind is a weakness arising from the dissipation of energy in the shape of thoughts. When one makes the mind stick to one thought the energy is conserved, and the mind becomes stronger and one-pointed. This is what is also meant by Sri Paramhamsa's Teaching that the mind must be gathered in. It must be prevented from branching out into numerous thoughts.

The purpose of all yogas whatever is only this--to check the mind from changing. Is it not? This alone is the goal of all. Method is chosen according to one's own fitness and temperament. However, Sri Bhagwan has repeatedly said that Enquiry is one infallible method. Yet, the quiescence of the mind can also be attained by Japa, but not only by counting the beads and twisting the tongue in the mouth, while the mind is wandering everywhere; but by bringing the mind to bear on the thought of the Chanted. And Sri Ramakrishna Paramhamsa has shown to the world that quiescence of the mind as well as   'kumbhaka' can also be achieved through Ecstasy of Love for God.

However, dear devotees, I wish to say here that greatness of Sri Bhagwan's Vichara also lies in the fact that it is soon intuited and one begins to palpably sense that it is possible to keep the mind from entering into the phase of thoughts before one experiences the 'Current of Awakening of the Atma-swarupa'. And that is the beginning of the end or transcendence of the mind.

Thanks very much.
Pranam,
 Anil
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« Reply #5120 on: October 18, 2017, 11:10:45 AM »
    MASTER'S  CALL  TO  FREEDOM


It needs high courage to receive Thy call
And leap responding to Thy silver voice:
It needs proud wisdom to give up our all
And in a self-unprisonment rejoice.
We are in love with our unluminous
Flesh-dungeon; we have grown afraid of light.
Our fetters have become so dear to us
That we should not exchange them and our night
For freedom and dawn. From age to age
The spirit has been captive in a cage.
Our misery, how shall we break the bars
And leap into wide heaven once again?
How shall we make our weak wings woo the stars
And rise out of this prisonment of pain?
We ask no mortal boon, we do not seek
Such earthly favours as but laugh for an hour.
Master! we do not hunger for unique Distinctions
of fame, of wealth or power.
We only beg the mastery to curb
Doubt to deep faith, unpublished and superb.

Sri Harindranath Chattopadhyaya, Source: Golden Jubilee Souvenir



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« Reply #5121 on: October 18, 2017, 02:56:19 PM »
EXPECTATION
Days melted into weeks, and weeks into months and the foreigner (Sri Cohen)  impatiently awaited the Great Experience: each day was the day, and each moment the moment. The Indian is never in a hurry: he knows his work well, and, looking wistfully ahead, continues his practice, full of unshakeable confidence. But the foreigner, being used to work on a timetable, fixes hour and date, as if for an interview. As the clock strikes, he buckles on his belt, sits stiff, shuts his eyes, and waits for the interview. The clock strikes again, he opens his eyes, unbelts himself, and rises, postponing his hope to the evening or the next morning, and so on and on he goes.

When many months thus rolled by and nothing startling happened, he cried with all the fervour of his soul: "How long, O Lord, how long?" But lo! what had happened to him! He looked back at his old self and looked at the present one --what a change, Good God! And he wondered what could have happened in six short months. Then the Great Secret dawned on him -- the secret influence of the Divine Man in whose radiant ocean he had been daily bathing: the interview, after all, did take place, although the foreigner was not aware of it.

Guru Ramana, Sri S. S. Cohen





Dear devotees, this is true for almost all devotees of Sri Bhagwan who were drawn irresistibly to Him and silently practiced His Teaching without much ado. I myself was once assailed by the thought that I have been practicing Sri Bhagwan's Vichara for so long, but did not feel that I had progressed much towards the Realization Sri Bhagwan spoke of. But when I looked back in introspection, much like Sri Cohen, I became aware of the metamorphosis His Grace and practice according to His Teaching brought about in me. Then the truth of Sri Bhagwan's saying dawned on me. The Guru's help to His devotees is much like the mother's breast-feeding to her sleeping child, while the child himself remains quite unaware of the feeding. So, His work lies within and remains hidden. The Magic of His Alchemy works from within, helping the devotee to see the error of his ways, and thus the Guru guides him in the right path until he realizes the Self within. Therefore, whether the Guru is within or without--His work is to create condition to drive one inward and to prepare the interior to drag and fix him to the Centre of his Existence.
Pranam
 Anil     
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« Reply #5122 on: October 19, 2017, 10:32:19 AM »
बाहर  क्या  दिखलाये , अंतर  जपिए  राम  |
कहा  काज  संसार  से , तुझे  धानी  से  काम  ||

Sri Kabir

There is nothing to show outside. Chant Rama internally. One should not be concerned with the world but with the Master of the world.


Dear devotees, I keep posting from Sri Kabir's cryptic but profound Dohe, Sri Rabindranath Tagore's sublime poetry, and nectarine Gita, because, before I came to Sri Bhagwan, they along with Sri Vivekananda's writings and Sri Tulsi Das' Ramayana, were like mooring ropes which  kept pulling me out of the sea of samsara, but I slipped into the mundane sea again and again, till Sri Bhagwan came and moored irreversibly to the spiritual shore to live a meaningful and spiritual life with a spirit of enquiry into that which Is.

Pranam,
  Anil.   
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« Reply #5123 on: October 19, 2017, 03:20:14 PM »
Dear Devotees,

Sri Bhagwan Himself and Sri Muruganar have composed some wonderful Verses on Dipawali, which are as following:


The Puranas say that Lord Narayana has killed the demon [of misery], Naraka Asura. This demon is none other than the one who lives as "I am this body, the source of misery". One who seeks Naraka Asura's [i.e., the ego's] source, and thus annihilates him, is truly Lord Narayana Himself.
V. 181, GVK


The Deepavali-bath, which is taken by all people on the fourteenth moon in remembrance of the conquest of Naraka, signifies the bath of Jnana, which is taken after destroying the ego Naraka Asura, by searching for his source.
V. 182, GVK


The above two verses were summarised in the following verse by Sri Bhagavan:


Sri Bhagwan:  He who kills Narakasura (the ego) with the Wheel [i.e. weapon] of Jnana, by enquiring, "Where is the source of Narakasura who rules over Narakaloka, this wretched body, as 'I'?", is Lord Narayana; and that day [of the ego's destruction] is the auspicious day of the fourteenth moon.
V. B4, GVK



Deepavali signifies the great Self-Effulgence which shines after destroying the reflected light [i.e. the ego], Narakasura, who was ruling this filthy body, which is the form of hell, as 'I'.
V. 183, GVK


This verse was recomposed by Sri Bhagwan in the following form:


Sri Bhagwan:  Deepavali signified the shining of Self after the destruction, through enquiry, of the greatest sinner, Naraka [the ego], who took the abode of this filthy body, which is the form of hell, as 'I'.
V. B5, GVK








Dear devotees, I received V. 183 of the GVK on WhatsApp yesterday from 'Sri Ramana'. All the Verses composed by Sri Bhagwan and Sri Muruganar, on Dipawali, as cited above, are of precious worth and should be contemplated upon on the occasion of Dipawali today.

Dipawali means 'Festival of Lights'. Self alone is the real Light through which all the seeing whatever is happening. But the Self will shine forth only after the destruction of the greatest sinner Naraka or the 'ahankarasura' (ego) through Enquiry. Therefore, if this Naraka called ahankarasura is destroyed through proper sadhana, the Dipawali or the 'Festival of Light' will not come once in a year on the fourteenth day of the waning moon in October or November (Naraka Chaturdasi), but one oneself is metamorphosed into the Light Itself, which is the Light of Awareness, and which alone is Real Life. Then who is to bathe into what?
Thanks very much. 
Pranam,
 Anil
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« Reply #5124 on: October 19, 2017, 04:18:15 PM »
In the goodly land of fame great,
The only Light that dazzleth bright
Is the Being First,
For all directions to adore,
And unto all nature blooming and fruiting,
He in accord stood,
Filling everywhere in unitive perfection.

Sri Thaumanavar
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« Reply #5125 on: October 20, 2017, 10:25:28 AM »
प्रेमभाव  एक  चाहिए , भेष  अनेक  बनाय  |
चाहे  घर  में  वास  कर , चाहे  बन  को  जाए  ||
Sri Kabir



One may adopt many external facades, one may stay at home, or one may go to woods, if one wants God, one must have love in the heart.

Note: I myself have translated the cited Verse. If any one of you find any error or any discrepancy, you may kindly point out. Anil 

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« Reply #5126 on: October 20, 2017, 11:56:27 AM »
Sri Paul Brunton:
"This inquiry into the true self is the simplest system of mediation I know, and therefore the most suited to the busy man of the present age. It is quicker to grasp and simpler to practice than the complicated Yoga systems of the East. It may advantageously be practiced by anyone who cares to ascertain the truth about his own nature."




Dear Devotees,

I cannot say anything about other systems of meditation, because when I started practicing Atma-vichara spontaneously,  I even didn't know that meditation is concentrating on a single thought or an Ideal to the exclusion of all others, leave aside concentrating on and attending to only and only the sense of 'I' within me. Therefore, indeed, I found Sri Bhagwan's Inquiry to be a very simple system of meditation, easy to grasp and simple to practice.


 
Dear devotees, Sri Brunton writes further about this meditation (inquiry into true self) as follows:
Sri Brunton: "Spiritual unfoldment is not to be haphazard thing it so often is among us, but a steady and serious effort. An ordered and regular daily practice in mediation will naturally lead to advancement in the art. In other words, as you continue the method less and less effort will be needed to produce the same result. Progress depends upon practice."



Dear devotees, Inquiry as taught by Sri Bhagwan will produce best results by not only being regular every day, that is, during only an allotted time daily  for the purpose, but soaking in the experience of peace and happiness obtained during mediation, one must endeavour to hold the current of awareness always whenever one remembers it.
Therefore, one must practice this meditation as regularly as eating and make it a habit. The best habit a man can ever make is that of meditation. What happens is like this:

As one perseveres in this practice of meditation in the form of inquiry, progressively less and less effort will be needed, as Sri Brunton said, and thus absorbs in something by repeated daily efforts. One surely begins to find in time that the mental quiet obtained during this meditation becomes the most cherished joy of all, and begins to look for it spontaneously. Thus the Inquiry becomes a looked-for joy rather than a disciplinary practice, and then one doesn't allow anything to interfere with it.


Thanks very much.
Pranam,
 Anil   
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« Reply #5127 on: October 20, 2017, 03:11:27 PM »
Dear devotees, what follows is an excerpt from the book 'Hunting the 'I'', written by Sri Lucy Cornelssen:

Ramana Maharshi used the illustration of 'acting as the actor on the stage': he plays his part in full attention, devoting his whole capacity to the task in hand, but knowing all the while that he is not the king or the beggar of his role, but somebody else. We too have to be aware that as the 'person' we have to act our part on the stage of life, remembering all the time our true nature as pure Be-ing, the Self. Going beyond thinking by jnana, beyond feeling by bhakti, beyond self-willed action by karma marga means going beyond that 'I' which was from the very beginning, the birth of a genuine reflexive Identity, a 'wrong I'; it means nothing more or less than returning to the Source of Pure Consciousness. Thereafter...

"Your efforts can extend only thus far. Then the Beyond will take care of Itself. You are helpless there. No effort can reach It." (Talks, 197).

Here finally we meet the Great Experience of Ramana, the Maharshi, in Its second aspect, as the pure Power of the Beyond, Sakti.
"Some force, call it atmic power or anything else rose within me and took possession of me. I became a new man." (Day by Day, 22.11.45).

'I' and 'God' melted again into the One without a second that they always had been, beyond name and form, time and space... the divine mystery of Man.

To get this experience we have to transcend the biological status of the 'thinking mammal', which alone we are, according to the teachings of our natural sciences. And inadvertently they help to keep us bound by this status, because only by this deep ignorance about our true Nature are we blind towards those negative ways in which we are misused by our 'worldly' civilisation.







Dear devotees, the above excerpt need no explanation. However, regarding the last paragraph of the excerpt, I wish to say that transcendence of the biological status of thinking mammal does not mean that one who thus transcends ceases to think at all and becomes rather like an idiot.  In Oxford University Dictionary, the word 'transcendence' is defined as 'going beyond the limits of human knowledge, experience or reason'. So, expanding beyond the limits to infinity does not mean that what is within limits becomes inaccessible. What is meant is only this that in the absence of the thinker, thoughts would arise when there is a need, and would subside without creating any impression or vasana, when the need is over. Self being all, thinking does not take place apart from the Self. This is why Sri Bhagwan has taught that attending to the Self and remaining as the Self include attending to everything under the universe, for, the Self is universal or the universe is only the expanded Self.

Pranam,
 Anil   
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« Reply #5128 on: October 20, 2017, 03:42:57 PM »
Dear devotees, Sri Sukadeva went to Sri Janaka for the final instruction about the Knowledge of Brahman. However, Sri Janaka said to him, "You must pay the Gurudakshina (Guru's fee) beforehand. For, when you attain the Knowledge of Brahman, you won't pay me my fee, because the Knower of Brahman sees no difference between the Guru and the Disciple".   

Dear devotees, the Guru, however, seeks no material offering from the disciple, but only the offering of  the spurious ego (the head), which says 'I', to the Lotus Feet of the Guru, which is Pure Awareness 'I-I'. Therefore, in my view, asking as Gurudakshina (Guru's fee) of ignorance in the form the ego-'I' from Sri Sukadeva was the Guru, Sri Janaka's final instruction about the Knowledge of Brahman to Sri Sukadeva.   Anil
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« Reply #5129 on: October 20, 2017, 04:38:01 PM »
        Jnana is Lifeboat


 The Lord is of Infinite Grace,
 In His Celestial City are Love, Light and Peace eternal,
 To them that seek to know His Form
 And understand His Attributes
 And attain His Holy Feet
 To them, this is the Path
 This, this the boat to cross Life's turbulent waters.

Tirumantiram