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« Reply #420 on: January 17, 2011, 04:24:21 PM »
Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,

Skanda took birth from Siva’s Third Eye to destroy the three terrible demons. Lord Budha was born to rid the people, society and Sanatan Dharma of the strangle-hold of the pernicious heresy and superstitious beliefs. Tiru Jnana Sambandhar took birth to spread Bhakti and restore Saivism back from Jainism. Sri Adi Sankara was born to restore the glory of the Sanatan Dharama.

Sri Bhagwan’s Avatara, as the Acme of Guruhood is to rid the modern man and the society of the rampant materialism, in which we have sunk deep, by declaring to the world and enjoining the secret and Straight Path of Atma Vichara and Hriday Vidya hither to hidden in the Great Upanishads. Besides, He gave twin axes of Atma Vichara “Who Am I ?”  and “Whence Am I ?” to cut off the ego to herald the Blissful Life of the Spirit.

When invoked with love and devotion, He reveals as Pure Existence and Pure Knowledge. ” He is Pure Love-He is pure Bliss-embodied. HE IS ‘I AM’ WITHIN THE INNERMOST RECESS OF HEARTS OF ALL-From Sri Vishnu downwards.

Thank you so much, sir.

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« Reply #421 on: January 18, 2011, 09:19:39 AM »
When the jiva, turning back and returning along the way it came, enters the source, it will drown completely in its intrinsic nature and, in doing so, as the bliss of its own nature manifests clearly within its own understanding, it will abide motionless in that state.
                                                              V-632, GVK, Edited by Sri David Godman

Dear Devotees and Seekers,

Our intrinsic nature is Sat, Chit, Ananda-Sacchidananda. How foolish of us that being intrinsically Sacchidananda, we find ourselves trapped in circumstances in which we mistake asat to be Sat, relative consciousness to be Chit, and pleasure-sorrow cycle to be Ananda ! Result-we are anguished and unhappy, never satiated and always seeking, seeking and seeking little realizing what we are seeking at all.

Dear seekers, this ceaseless seeking will go on unchecked until first we stand and stare (as the great nature poet Sri Wordsworth sang) and finally start seeking THAT, our REAL IDENTITY and finding the Source , merge into It, be IT.

Sri Bhagwan says that the cause of all misery and evil is our forgetfulness of the way we came to this lot from the Original Abode. In this context, Sri Bhagwan has narrated a great story. Sri Bhagwan came with a Purpose and divinely ordained events and circumstances kept on presenting themselves in and around Sri Bhagwan. He often used these to impart His Teaching and to drive the point home to His devotees.

Story is as follows:

“  In the hall where Bhagwan used to give darshan there was a chimney. The chimney was closed on all sides with steel mesh, except at the bottom. One day, a beautiful small bird somehow entered it and became trapped inside this chimney. The bird found itself trapped in conditions diametrically opposed to its natural environment: the vast space where it could fly freely. From the moment it entered the chimney, it was frantically struggling to escape, but all its efforts proved futile. Why ? Because, forgetting the way it came, it was repeatedly trying to escape through all the closed roots. Sri Bhagwan took this opportunity to reveal a great truth.

The bird has given up the all-pervasive space, its natural place of residence. It has been caught in this limited space, which is opposed to its nature. Not knowing how to escape from this prison, it is agitated and afraid. Like this bird, jives have also given up their natural place of residence, the vast space of consciousness. Through the delusion of ignorance they have become trapped in the prison of the body. Without knowing how to escape, they are tormented by various afflictions. The ceaseless efforts of this bird to reach its natural place of residence are unsuccessful because they are directed upwards, the way of bondage, instead of downwards, the way it came. Similarly, the reason why the jiva’s ceaseless efforts to attain freedom are unsuccessful is because they too are directed outwards, the way of bondage, instead of inwards, the way they came. The natural tendency of the bird to go upwards asserts itself even in its attempts for freedom. Likewise, the natural tendency of jivas to roam outwards asserts itself even in their attempts at liberation. This is the jiva’s natural tendency. If, through true discrimination and awareness, the jiva is made to turn back from outward-directed sight to inward sight, and if it remains fixed there, it is certain that it would attain liberation in an instant. “
( The above story, as narrated by Sri Bhagwan, I felt, is so powerful and presented so beautifully in GVK edited by Sri David Godman on p-268 that I decided to present it to you as it is there.)

Dear seekers, there is no alternative like the bird. We will one day have to curb our natural tendency and propensity to seek happiness outside of ourselves. All we have to do is to seek within and to be.

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« Reply #422 on: January 18, 2011, 09:30:54 AM »



Sri Bhagavan says in Who am I?

Qn. No. 16:

What is the nature of the Self?

Answer:

What exists in truth is the Self alone.  The world, the jiva and God
are appearances in it.  Like silver in mother-of-pearl, these three
appear at the same time, and disappear at the same time. 

The Self is that where there is absolutely no 'I'-thought.  This is
called Silence.  The Self itself is the world, the Self itself is the 'I',
the Self itself is God.  All is Siva, the Self.

The insect caught up in the chimney has to get back from the hole
from which it had entered. The hole is the Source.  We have to get back our redemption from the Source, from which the ego sprouted.

Once there was some old man who was often falling into sleep,
when he was in the hall.  The attendant was trying to wake him up.  Sri Bhagavan said:  He is doing the work for what he had come.  You do your work for what you have come.  Vandha Velaiyai Paar.



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« Reply #423 on: January 18, 2011, 03:47:49 PM »
Sri Bhagwan said :

“ The natural tendency of the jivas to roam outwards asserts itself even in their attempts at liberation. “

Why is our natural tendency is to roam outwards while our Truth lies inward ? Because of the old habits formed in innumerable births. This habit of looking outward is so deep rooted that it has become our natural tendency to hold to the external world.

Ego I cannot survive without holding this and that object. Our whole worldly life is objective only. All thoughts, knowledge, actions, hopes, joys, sorrows, aspirations etc. pertain to objects, to not-Self and never to the subject himself, knower of them all. Even all our questions and answers are concerned with the objects only. We are so falsely assured of our identity that it never occurs to us to question the subject himself. This tendency, indeed, is now so ingrained in our psyche that even when we raise “Who am I ?“ question, attention is not on ‘I’, the subject, but on objects outside of ourselves. The ego ‘I’ cannot survive without holding a form. It cannot leave a form or an object without catching hold of the other. And any thought, anything, other than the subject is a form or an object.

Sri Bhagwan says that this tendency asserts itself even in our attempts at liberation. Even seeking one’s own Self begins outside of oneself. Only gradually a seeker understands that what he seeks , in Truth, is himself.       

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« Reply #424 on: January 19, 2011, 08:32:16 AM »
All that is, is only Silence. The purport and significance of this statement is that there is nothing to be learnt, discussed and concluded. We all know “I Am.” But ‘I’ is mistaken to be the body. This is because ‘I’ arises from the Absolute and gives rise to budhi (intellect) in which ‘I’ looks the size and shape of the body.

Brahman→aham (I-I)→budhi (intellect)

Sri Bhagwan asks, “How can such budhi crossing over aham discover Brahman ? it is impossible. Just get over the false conception of the ‘I ’being the body. Discover to whom the thoughts arise. If the present ‘I’-ness vanishes, the discovery is complete. What remains over is the Self.”
                                                        Talks, no. 54

If  “I am“ is the Reality, indeed, there is nothing to be learnt, discussed and concluded. ‘I am’ is the conclusion. The significance of ‘I am’ is Silence. ‘I am’ is HERE and NOW. Isn’t it ? When I say I am Anil, I move away from ‘I am’ to ‘I am Anil’ although ‘I am’ is ever there whether there is a thought or not. Anil is not in the HERE and NOW. It is a movement away from ‘I am’. Whenever a thought rises due to attention paid to that particular thought, there is a movement away from the Reality of ‘I am’ , indeed, from HERE and NOW to objects. It is a great irony that we cannot be in the HERE and NOW. So, we do sadhana. We practice. For what ? To be in the HERE and NOW.   

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« Reply #425 on: January 19, 2011, 09:09:00 AM »



Dear Anil,

Akhilandamma was serving Sri Bhagavan, food for long time in
Virupaksha Cave and Skandasramam.  She is from Desur near
Tiruvannamalai.  It is she who brought Mastan Swami also to
Sri Bhagavan.

Akhilandamma one day asked Sri Bhagavan to give her some upadesa. Sri Bhagavan smiled and said:  "What upadesam?
Pray: Give mySelf to me, Ennaiye Enakku Kodu.

One has to only pray to God to give Him to the praying devotee.
That is all.



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« Reply #426 on: January 19, 2011, 03:05:10 PM »
Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,

Ji, yes. I am cent percent certain that Smt. Akhilandmma was given a very, very effective Upadesa by Sri Bhagwan. I do not know whether she followed it or not.

Kindly explain, “Ennaiya Enakku Kodu.”

Who is Sri Mastan Swami ? I have heard his name a few times also.

 Thank you so much.

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« Reply #427 on: January 19, 2011, 03:06:54 PM »
Verse 19, The Crown Jewel of Discrimination ( Vivek Chudamani ), describes four essential qualifications  for Self Knowledge. ‘Nityanitya-Vastu- Viveka’ is the first qualification, according to the Verse. Verse 20 states that the certainty that the Brahman is the Reality and the Jagat ( the world ) is mithya is called Nityanitya-Vastu-Viveka.

Sri Bhagwan says that the Acharya has also that the world is mithya if seen apart from the Brahman.

Chapter 13 of the Srimad Bhagvad Gita deals with the discrimination between ksetra (body-mind and the world) and Ksetrajna (the Spirit).

The body is an adjunct but is mistaken as one with the Self through identification arising from ignorance. Jnana consists in removal of this ignorance through discrimination and the recognition of the unity of the jivas with the Brahman. This, in brief, is the gist of Ch13 of  Srimad Bhagvad Gita. In this context, three Verses from this very Chapter are cited as below :

This body, O son of Kunti, is called the Ksetra, the field. He who knows it (as his property) is the Ksetrajna or the Spirit who knows the field. So say those versed in this subject.
                                                                                     Ch.13, Verse-1

Know Me, O scion of the Bharata race, to be the Ksetrajna (the Spirit) in all Ksetras (Bodies). The knowledge of the distinction between Ksetra and Ksetrajna alone is real knowledge according to Me.
                                                                                      Ch 13, Verse-2

Whoever perceives by spiritual insight the distinction between Ksetra (Nature) and Ksetrajna (Spirit) as also the freedom of the Spirit from the hold of Nature, they reach the Supreme.
                                                                                        Ch 13, Verse-34

By Guru’s Grace, the above Sublime Verses can acquire inexplicable luminosity and are lighted.   
 
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« Reply #428 on: January 19, 2011, 03:13:44 PM »
The fourth line of the Re-457 should read " Sri Bhagwan says that the Acharya has also said that the world is mithya if seen apart from the Brahman ".Thank you. Anil

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« Reply #429 on: January 19, 2011, 03:38:49 PM »



Dear Anil,

Ennaiye means my Self.  Enakku means to me.  Kodu means Give.
Give my Self to me.

Mastan Swami was a Moslem.  He was born in the same village
of Desur to which Akhilandamma was hailing from.  He though
a Moslem, took interest in praying to Siva, applying vibhuti and singing songs of Siddhars and Tamizh Saiva Saints.  One day,
Akhilandamma asked him to come with her to meet Sri Bhagavan,
in Virupaksha Cave.  Perhaps time had come to get a suitable Guru.
He came and stood before Sri Bhagavan.  Sri Bhagavan gazed at him
for a long time.  Mastan stood there speechless, for about 6 to 7
hours, enjoying the bliss. His was a rare case, where the first darshan of Sri Bhagavan was itself sufficient to attain self realization. 

Mastan was a weaver.  He used to bring codpieces woven by him to
Sri Bhagavan.   When he attained vidheha kaivalyam, Sri Bhagavan
asked his people to build a Samadhi.  This Samadhi is said to be in
Desur, about 35 kms. from Tiruvannamalai.  He has written a few verses on Sri Bhagavan.  His story is available in David Godman's
3-parts book, the Power of the Presence.



Arunachala Siva.
 

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« Reply #430 on: January 20, 2011, 08:09:56 AM »
 “Not to allow any thought to arise is mauna”
                                    Sri Mastan Swami

           

Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,

Thank you so much for pointing out that Sri Mastan’s Swami is included in The Power Of The Presence. Yes, I read the fascinating story about Sri Swami in the Part Three of this invaluable book.

Sri Mastan Swami was a very ripe soul. The manner in which Sri Bhagwan laid down in the minutest detail to be followed the rites in the construction of his Samadhi should leave no one in any doubt about his State. Sri David Godman observes that in his knowledge, Sri Bhagwan ordered this type of samadhi for the Mother, Lakshmi the cow, and Sri Mastan. Since Sri bhagwan publicly declared that the first two realized the Self, one can make a strong case for saying that Sri Mastan also realized the Self at the time of his passing away.

I also read in it the mysterious arrival of a golden mongoose while Sri Bhagwan was living at Skandashram. It is reported that it even sat on Sri Bhagwan’s lap for a while.
The book says that Sri Bhagwan rebuked Sri Perumal Swami when he remarked that Sri Mastan Swami should have  caught the mongoose so that it could be domesticated and kept as a pet. Sri Bhagwan said that it was a sage of Sri Arunachala who took on this form to visit Him.

Thank you so much sir.

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« Reply #431 on: January 20, 2011, 08:45:13 AM »



Dear Anil,

Mastan Swami's greatness will be further known by the following
facts:

1. Sri Bhagavan sent Kunju Swami, with stocks of camphor and vibhuti for Samadhi purposes and also told him about the samadhi
construction details to him as Tirumandiram - X Book of Saiva Canon.

2. The village which had a large Jain population, from this community, one gentleman provided funds for samadhi construction.

3. The local temple offered their palanquin to carry Mastan's body
to the samadhi site. 

4. People from all religions and castes joined the Annadhanam,
feast, after samadhi construction.

5. Sri Mastan had a vision that Apeetakuchamba, the consort of
Arunachaleswara, was calling him and escorting him to Siva's
abode.

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Mastan did not write any poems on Sri Bhagavan, as mentioned
by me earlier.  This is wrong.    However, one Sambandan, Mastan's disciple had written some 200 verses on Sri Bhagavan and also some verses about teachings of Sri Bhagavan and Mastan.

I am not sure whether these are printed and published by Sri Ramanasramam.



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« Reply #432 on: January 20, 2011, 01:32:39 PM »
“ Please tell me some story about the glory of our Master. Tell me everything he has said during the time I was not with him. To me, every word Bhagwan speaks is holy. The words that come out of his holy mouth are so powerful, merely listening to them can give liberation to the ripe souls. “
                                           Sri Mastan Swami ( Taken from the Power of the Presence )

Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,

Devotee of devotees, Sri Mastan Swami’s greatness is obvious. This is beyond argument. I have also noted that he was born in 1878 and passed away in 1931. So, he shed his body  at a fairly young age of  53 years.

The book says that Smt. Akhlandamma with Sri Swami opened a Math in their village, Desur and named it Ramanananda Mathalayam. The book also reports that when a new building was constructed on the north side of the Math with the help of the money contributed by a local man named Sri Nandagopal Mudaliar, a plaque was placed on the wall stating  the name and acknowledging the contribution by the local man. Sri Mastan was not happy with this plaque. He did not want to live in a place that had a name other than Sri Bhagwan’s name written on the wall !  This plaque so offended him that he decided to leave the place !

 Thank you so much sir.
                                                                                           
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« Reply #433 on: January 20, 2011, 01:59:10 PM »
In my view, attention and thoughts are the key words in Atma Vichara or Self-Enquiry.
I feel it is very important to understand these two terms, their vastu ( the substance ) and their nature etc.

What is a thought ?

What is attention ? 

Anyone may kindly share their knowledge and opinions with regard to these two key words in Self- Enquiry.

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« Reply #434 on: January 20, 2011, 02:25:20 PM »



Dear Anil,

The Math in Desur is called Sri Ramana Matalayam.  This is the first
Ramana Centre outside Tiruvannamalai, though today, we have got
Centres in Canada to Australia.

Thought is the form of mind.  Any simple movement of mind is thought.  Right from basic thought like I should take a glass of water, all are mind's movements.  These are all based on I-thought.

Attention is sraddha in Sanskrit.  It is pointed interest towards the
Self on the right side of the chest, for beginners and seeing the Self in all beings at the end.  This is the way  to divert the mind from
other thoughts.




Arunachala Siva.