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« Reply #3300 on: August 12, 2013, 06:06:10 PM »
Quote from Sri Ravi:
“MASTER (with pleasure): "It is through God's grace that you understand that. The doubts of the mind will not disappear without His grace. Doubts do not disappear without Self- realization.
"But one need not fear anything if one has received the grace of God. It is rather easy for a child to stumble if he holds his father's hand; but there can be no such fear if the father holds the child's hand. A man does not have to suffer any more if God, in His grace, removes his doubts and reveals Himself to him. But this grace descends upon him only after he has prayed to God with intense yearning of heart and practised spiritual discipline. The mother feels compassion for her child when she sees him running about breathlessly. She has been hiding herself; now she appears before the child."”


Dear Sri Ravi,

Ah! What a wonderful quote from the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna! The Teaching is exactly the same as Sri Bhagwan’s. Sri Bhagwan also taught that when the doubter himself is held and the source sought, doubts disappear along with the doubter himself and the Self shines forth unobstructed. This is the Self-realisation.

However, what overwhelms me and fills me with joy is Sri Paramhamsa’s Teaching regarding ‘yearning of heart’, love for the Divine Mother and child-like Faith in God or the Guru.

Dear sir, Sri Bhagwan has also taught that Self is the Grace and that the Divine Grace is essential for Realisation. Sri Bhagwan, like Sri Paramhamsa above, has also cautioned that such Grace is vouchsafed only to him who is a true devotee. It is given only to those who have striven hard and ceaselessly towards the path towards freedom. Therefore, while one Great Master delineates Grace from the standpoint of Jnana, the other Great Master has portrayed and taught it from the standpoint of Bhakti. But, nevertheless, obviously, both are the same.

Dear Sri Ravi, I have checked, downloaded and saved the three articles from Sri Arvind’s Blog as advised by you, but, unfortunately, I have had no time so far to go through them in solitude. I shall certainly go through them and post my comment there itself if I felt a need to do so.

Thanks very much, dear sir, for your wonderful post on Sri Ramakrishna.
Pranam,
  Anil         


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« Reply #3301 on: August 12, 2013, 06:12:44 PM »
Dear Anil,

Once Devaraja Mudaliar asked Sri Bhagavan:  You have been telling Grace.  But I am not able to experience it.  Sri
Bhagavan said: O Mudaliar, Grace is always there, Grace is Self.  But you (i.e.ego) do not come in the way.
Sri Bhagavan's Grace can be experienced only when ego is not coming in the way of Grace. Grace is Self, Grace is Mukti,
Grace is everything.

Arunachala Siva.
 

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« Reply #3302 on: August 13, 2013, 10:40:28 AM »
The Aham of those genuine devotees who have experienced the beauty of Grace will flourish and shine as the nature of supreme Brahman. The knot between chit [consciousness] and jada, the ego whose nature is delusion and which generates anxieties, will die in the Heart, never to rise again.
V. 968, GVK, Edited by Sri D. Godman


Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,

Ji. Yes. Grace is the Self, ever-existing, ever-flowing. Grace is available to all and fills the entire universe since it is Existence Itself.

That which eternally Is, is the ‘I AM’. And It is the Innermost nature of all, at all times. This Pure ‘I AM’ in everyone of us is Grace.  If we recognise, connect, hold and abide in this eternally available Pure ‘I AM’, this is certainly the unerring sign of the manifestation of the Guru’s Grace.
God manifests assuming the Grace- form of the Guru to bestow the supreme benefit on His devotees. GOD,   GURU  AND  GRACE  ARE  THE  INNERMOST  ESSENCE  OF  AWARENESS  WHICH  IS  REVEALED  WHEN  ATTACHMENT  TO  ALL  FORMS  IS  BROKEN. The attachment to all forms will be broken when the ego, enquiring, reaches and dies in the Heart, never to rise again. Then our heart will be open and Guru’s Grace flows in as sunshine through an open window.

Sri Bhagwan has taught that Just like a mother who feeds her sleeping child even without the child knowing that he is being fed, the Grace of the Pure Divine Self enters our heart in a manner which cannot be known by us even if we have the most subtle and powerful of intellects, and thereby, His Grace reforms us and brings about the destruction of our mind.  AH!  HIS  GRACE  IS  BEYOND  ALL  LIMITS  AND  CANNOT  BE  GAUGED  BY  ANYONE!

Sri Muruganar: Unless they [jivas] turn within, in His direction, and put attention on Him, the truth that God is continuously bestowing His Grace on them all the time will not be known by them. Therefore, for the  beings—who, through the individual self, do not enquire into Him who is the very form of Grace—to say that He is not bestowing His Grace on them, even slightly, is a grave mistake.

THIS  IS  WHY  IT  IS  SAID  THAT  THE  REALITY  IS  THE  FORM  OF  DIVINE  GRACE  THAT  DANCES  ON  HIGH,  SUBDUING  EVERYTHING  ELSE.

Thanks very much, dear sir.
Pranam,
  Anil 
   

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« Reply #3303 on: August 13, 2013, 06:25:27 PM »
Sri Ramakrishna Paramhamsa:
“He who is Brahman is also Sakti. When thought of as inactive, He is called Brahman, and when thought of as the Creator, Preserver, and Destroyer, he is called the Primordial Energy, Kali.”

“Brahman and Sakti are identical, like fire and its power to burn. When we talk of fire we automatically mean also its power to burn. Again, the fire’s power to burn implies the fire itself. If you accept the one you must accept the other.”
“Brahman alone is addressed as the Mother. This is because a mother is an object of great love. One is able to realise God just through love. Ecstasy of feeling, devotion, love, and faith—these are the means. Listen to a song:

As a man’s meditation, so is his feeling of love;
As a man’s feeling of love, so is his gain;
And faith is the root of all.
If in the Nectar Lake of Mother Kali’s Feet
My mind remains immersed,
Of little use are worship, oblations, or sacrifice.

“What is needed is absorption in God—loving Him intensely. The ‘Nectar Lake’ is the Lake of Immortality. A man sinking in It does not die, but becomes immortal. Some people believe that by thinking of God too much the mind becomes deranged; but that is not true. God is the Lake of Nectar, the Ocean of Immortality. He is called the ‘Immortal’ in the Vedas. Sinking in It, one does not die, but verily transcends death.

OF   LITTLE   USE   ARE   WORSHIP,   OBLATIONS,   OR   SACRIFICE.

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

Pranam,
  Anil
     
 

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« Reply #3304 on: August 16, 2013, 11:26:48 AM »
Dear Devotees,

What follows is a very instructive conversation in which Sri Bhagwan explains the role of Budhi (Pure Intellect)  in the Self-enquiry thus:

 D: Swami, I have only one desire, namely to put my head on Bhagwan’s Foot and do namaskar (obeisance). Bhagwan must grant this favour.
Sri Bhagwan: Oh! Is that the desire! But then which is the Foot and which is the head?
No Reply.
 After pausing for a while Sri Bhagwan said: Where the self merges, that is the Foot.
D: Where is that place?
Sri Bhagwan: Where ? It is in one’s own self. The feeling ‘I’  ‘I’, the ego, is the head. Where the aham vritti ( ego) dissolves, that is the Foot of the Guru.
D: It is said that bhakti should be like mother, father, Giru and god, but if the individual self gets dissolved, how is it possible to serve them with bhakti?
Sri Bhagwan: What is the meaning of the individual self getting dissolved? It means, making that bhakti expansive. Everything is from one’s own self. Hence, if one is in one’s own self, one gets the shakti (energy) to broad base them all.
D: Does dissolving one’s self in its own place mean that with Budhi (developed mind) one discards the annamaya and other sheaths and after that discards the Budhi itself?
Sri Bhagwan: Where do you go if you discard Budhi? THE  BUDHI  REMAINING  IN  ITS  OWN  STATE  IS  THE  KNOWING  OF  ONE’S  OWN  STATE. To eliminate or discard the various elements mentioned already, Budhi must be used like a punishing rod. The Budhi is described as of two parts, unclean and clean. When it is associated with the work of the antahkarna it is stated to be unclean. This is known as mind and ahankara. When Budhi is used as a punishing rod to drive away those things and to give the inspiration of the Self (Aham Sphurana), i.e. ‘I’, it is known as clean Budhi. IF  THAT  IS  CAUGHT  AND  THE  REST  IS  DISCARDED,  THAT  WHICH  IS,  REMAINS  AS  IT  IS.
D: It is said that Budhi must be made one with Atma. How is that?
Sri Bhagwan: How can it be made one with Atma when it is not a thing which comes from outside? It is within oneself. THE  FEELING  OR  THE  SHADOW  OF  ATMA  IS  BUDHI.  IF  THAT  BUDHI,  THE  STATIC  THING,  IS  KNOWN,  ONE  REMAINS  AS  ONE’S  OWN  SELF.  Some call that ‘Budhi’, some ‘Shakti’ and some call it ‘Aham’. WHATEVER  THE  NAME,  IT  MUST  BE  CAUGHT  HOLD  OF  FIRMLY  TO  DRIVE  AWAY  ALL  THAT  COMES  FROM  ELSEWHERE.

Source: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam


Dear Devotees, Sri Bhagwan has taught that the Self-enquiry is the means as well as the end. Self-enquiry purifies the Budhi or the Intellect by dissociating it from the antahkarna, ahamkara, and senses and thus purges it of the thoughts and objects.  The Pure Mind  and  the Pure Budhi or the Pure Intellect are one and the same. Pure Mind or the Pure Intellect is nothing but the pure feeling or spotless shadow or the reflection of the Self or the Atma. SRI  BHAGWAN  SAYS  THAT  IF  THAT  PURE  INTELLECT  OR  THE  MIND,  IS  KNOWN,  ONE  REMAINS  AS  ONE’S  OWN  SELF.  IT  IS  ANOTHER  NAME  FOR  THE  SHAKTI  OR  THE  POWER  OF  THE  SELF  OR  THE  BRAHMAN.  IT  IS  EVER  ONE  WITH  THE  SELF  AND  THAT  BUDHI  OR  THE  MIND  IS  THE  STATI C THING  WHICH  WE  MUST  HOLD  TO  DRIVE  AWAY  ALL  THAT  ARE  ALIEN  AND  FOREIGN  WHICH  COME  FROM  ELSEWHERE.   

Dear devotees, Sri Bhagwan has taught that the course of the body follows according to our fate or the prarabdha.  Everything pertaining to the body-mind complex is alone predetermined. But we are not the body. We are the Self which is not bound by the internal or the external nature which is subject to natural laws.  THEREFORE,  WE  MUST  PUT  IN  WHAT  IS  CALLED  THE  ‘HUMAN EFFORT’.   SINCE   SRI  BHAGWAN  SAYS  THAT  THE  SELF-ENQUIRY  IS  ESSENTIAL  FOR  WHOMEVER  IT  MAY  BE,  SELF-ENQUIRY  IS  INDEED   THAT   ‘HUMAN EFFORT’  OR  THE  ‘PURUSHAKARA’. We must go Self-ward the way we came away from It to this sorrowful state.


Thanks very much.
Pranam,
  Anil






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« Reply #3305 on: August 16, 2013, 11:29:10 AM »

Dear Anil,

Nice post. The feet of the Guru is the source, and the head is the ego.  The ego should fall at the feet of the Guru, the Source.


Arunachala Siva.

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« Reply #3306 on: August 16, 2013, 08:22:39 PM »
If the head of the jiva (the ego) unites and becomes one with the Feet of the Lord, the jiva will, having merged, shine wholly as Sivam because when the insignificant ego dies, the jiva abides in the state of pure being as the motionless Atma-swarupa.
V. 514, GVK, Edited by Sri D. Godman

If you want to attain liberation and redeem yourself by cutting asunder  with the sword of jnana the false ignorance that has strongly bound you in the form of a jiva, let your mind spring up immediately with surging love and, without wasting a moment of your life, meditate constantly upon the golden, lotus-like Feet of the Lord who, in the form of the Guru, has taken you into His fold.
V. 515, GVK, Edited by Sri D. Godman


Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,

Ji. Yes. Thanks very much, sir. God manifests, assuming the Grace Form of the Guru, to bestow Jnana, and merge devotees in Supreme Bliss. It is the Being-Consciousness by which the Guru is unceasingly revealing His Existence. The granting of being-consciousness by Him is said to be initiation into Jnana and His Grace is only this Self-awareness that is our Real Nature.

Pranam,
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« Reply #3307 on: August 17, 2013, 10:45:49 AM »
Dear Devotees,

‘Jewel Garland Of Enquiry’ or ‘Vichara Mani Malai’ is a compilation of the salient points extracted by Sri Bhagwan from a large volume in Tamil known as ‘Vichara Sagara (Ocean of Enquiry), which itself was a translation from the original in Hindi by Sadhu Sri Nischal Das. On being appealed to by a devotee who complained that the volume in Tamil was too difficult to read and understand, Sri Bhagwan is said to have graciously made subtle and gem-like extracts from the supremely Sublime  Teaching contained in the Original and compiled them in a small booklet better known as ‘Vichara Mani Malai’.
Dear devotees, this small booklet is of great importance and invaluable for those who are pursuing Self-enquiry in particular and for all seekers in general.  What follows is an excerpt from this small book:   
Disciple: What is the support and basis for this extensive world?
Guru: Just as the rope is the support and basis for the delusive serpent which appears when the rope is not recognised as such, so you are the support and basis for the world which appears when you do not know your Self. 
Disciple: Kindly explain distinctly the ideas of support (adhara) and basis (adhishtana).
Guru: Even in the unreal serpent there is a concept ‘this’ which is mixed up with the general concept ‘this’ underlying the rope. Similarly in the unreal world there is a concept ‘it exists’ which is mixed up with the general concept of existence underlying the Self. This existence is the support of the world. Again, just as there is the particular concept ‘rope’ (besides the general concept of ‘this’) there is also the particular concept of the Self, namely that it is unattached, immutable, ever-liberated, all-pervasive, etc. This is not cognised at the time of delusion, but, when recognised, removes the delusion. This particular concept of the Self is the basis of the world.
Disciple: Corresponding to the seer who is separate from the rope which is the support and basis of the serpent, who is the seer apart from me who is the support and basis of the world?
Guru: If the basis is insentient a separate seer is necessary. If the basis is sentient it will itself be the seer. Just as the witnessing consciousness which is the basis of the dream is itself the seer of the dream, you are yourself the seer of the world.
 



Dear devotees, what does the above Teaching mean? In my view, two concepts, ‘general’ as well as ‘particular’ are involved,
General concept ‘this’ underlying the ‘rope’ is mixed up with the concept ‘this‘ in the serpent, and ‘this  is the rope’ appears to be ‘this is the serpent’.  Besides the general concept ‘this’ underlying the ‘rope’, there is a particular concept ‘rope’, and its serpentine form makes it appear as the snake. A tree cannot create the illusion of a snake. Therefore, the general concept ‘this’ underlying the ‘rope’ is the ‘support’  and the particular concept ‘rope’ is the basis,  of the appearance of snake in the rope which appears so long as we do not investigate and know the ‘rope’.

Likewise, in the unreal world there is the concept that ‘it exists’ which is mixed up with the general concept of Existence underlying the Self. Therefore,  seemingly  general sense of existence attributed to this world is, in truth, general sense of existence underlying the Self.  The Self’s Existence’, therefore, is the ‘support’ of the unreal world. Besides there is also the particular concept of the Self that it is unattached, immutable and unchanging , etc. , and the ever-changing world appears to be unchanging and ever the same despite all the evidence pointing to the contrary. Though we do not recognise It so long as the delusion is persisting, when we are able to recognise It by proper investigation, the recognition removes the delusion. This particular concept of the Self is the basis of the world.   

Dear devotees, as in dream, we ourselves are the support  and basis of the dream as well as the seer of the dream, so also the Self being the only Sentience, It alone is the support and basis as well as the seer of the world appearance.

Therefore, dear devotees,  NOW,  THEN,  AND  ALWAYS—HERE,  NOW  AND  EVERYWHERE—‘WE’, THE  SELF  WITHOUT A  SECOND,  ALONE  ARE.  WE   ALONE   EXIST—TIMELESS   AND   SPACELESS—WE,   THE  SELF.


Thanks very much.
Pranam,
  Anil

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« Reply #3308 on: August 17, 2013, 03:20:54 PM »
Dear Devotees,


The knowledge that the external objects are not the cause of happiness checks the mind which goes out owing to old habits of looking for happiness outside. Only after perfect vairagya or dispassion the mind becomes steady. So, vairagya must be pushed to the point of killing the ego. Sri Bhagwan has taught that an examination of the ephemeral nature of the external phenomena leads to vairagya. Hence Enquiry is the first and foremost method.

Dear devotees, describing the method of the Enquiry, Sri Bhagwan has explained that just as one dives into a lake, seeking a thing that has fallen in, by restraining the breath and with all his weight, so should the seeker of Truth dive into the Heart restraining speech and vital breath. Sometimes, the diver who dives into the lake to recover a lost article even ties some extra weight to his waist to enable him to search on the bed without getting buoyed up on the surface.  THEREFORE,  WHEN  A   SEEKER   DIVES   HEARTWARD  TO  FIND   WHEREFROM  RISES  THE  EGO  SENSE,  RESTRAINING  SPEECH  AND  VITAL  BREATH,   THE  VAIRAGYA  OR  DISPASSION  ACTS  AS  THE  WEIGHT  WHICH  ENABLES  THE  SEEKER  TO  GO  DEEPER  AND  DEEPER  TRACING  THE  SOURCE  WITHOUT  GETTING  DISTRACTED  AND  ALLOWING  THE MIND  TO  EXTERNALISE.

Dear devotees, in my previous post I attempted to discuss ‘support and basis’ as taught in ‘Vichara mani Malai’. As I said in that post that the Original ‘Vichara Sagaram’ was written by a great Jnani, Sadhu Sri Nischal Das in Hindi. Sri Bhagwan made extracts and compiled them into a small booklet but it was lost. When recovered, it was found in a crumpled state. When a devotee was copying it for reprinting, Sri Bhagwan asked him to  INCLUDE  THE  EXAMPLE  OF  A  FLAG  IN  REGARD  TO  VAIRAGYA.  When that devotee asked what was the significance of that example, Sri Bhagwan said with a smile:

“It means the flag of vairagya for a Jnani and the flag of raga for an ajnani will be there as if tied before them. One can tell who is a Jnani and who is an ajnani by seeing that flag.  For an ajnani, even if he gets vairagya on account of mental or physical ailments, it will be temporary only. THE  FLAG  OF  RAGA  WILL  COME  AND  STAND  IN  FRONT  OF  HIM.   THE  FLAG  OF  VAIRAGYA  WILL  NEVER  MOVE.  What greater sign does a Jnani require than that?”   


Thanks very much.
Pranam,
 Anil

   

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« Reply #3309 on: August 17, 2013, 06:03:03 PM »
Dear Devotees,

What was the atmosphere like around Sri Ramakrishna while He was still embodied? Let us have a feel of the ambience of the Great Master:

 Sri Narendra began to sing:

Fasten your mind, O man, on the Primal Purusha,
Who is the Cause of all causes,
The Stainless One, the Beginningless Truth.
As Prana He pervades the infinite universe;
The man of faith beholds Him,
Living, resplendent, the Root of all.
Beyond the senses, eternal, the Essence of Consciousness,
He shines in the cave of the heart,
Adorned with Holiness, Wisdom, and Love;
By meditating on Him, man is delivered from grief.

Of countenance ever serene,
An inexhaustible Ocean of virtue,
None can fathom His depths, yet freely, of His own Grace,
Does He reveal Himself
To those who come to His Feet for shelter,
Merciful since they are helpless and He is the ever-forgiving,
The Giver of happiness,
The ready Help in the sea of our woe.

Unswervingly just, bestowing the fruits of our deeds, good and ill,
Yet is He the Fount of Compassion,
The ocean of Mercy brimming with Love;
Even to hear of His glory suffuses the eyes with tears.
Gaze on His face and be blest:
Your heart is hungry for Him, O man!
Bright with unspeakable beauty, peerless and without stain,
No words can ever describe Him;
Be as a beggar before His gate
And worship Him day and night, beseeching Him for His Grace.



Sri Narendra sang again:
In wisdom’s firmament the moon of Love is rising full,
And Love’s flood-tide, in surging waves, is flowing everywhere,
O Lord, how full of bliss Thou art! Victory unto Thee!

On every side shines devotees, like stars around the moon;
That Friend, the Lord All-merciful, joyously plays with them.
Behold! the gates of paradise today are open wide…..


Sri Ramakrishna was dancing in a circle. The devotees joined Him. They all sang and danced. Their bliss was indescribable. The Master sang about the Divine Mother:

“Behold my Mother playing with Siva, lost in an ecstasy of joy!”

Sri Ramakrishna was highly pleased because M. had joined in the music. He said to M. with a smile, “ The Atmosphere would have been more intense with  divine fervour if a drum accompanied the music and played:
“Tak tak ta dhina! Dak dak da dhina!”

It was dusk when the kirtan was finished.

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna


Dear devotees, “Gaze on His Face and be blest, our heart is hungry for Him, O man!”
                                      “TAK TAK TA DHINA! DAK DAK DA DHINA!”


Pranam,
  Anil   
 
 

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« Reply #3310 on: August 17, 2013, 10:10:25 PM »
Anil/friends,
What it is to be in the presence of Sri Ramakrishna?We may recall the words of the Gopis in Srimad Bhagavatham:


Quote
Tava kathamritam tapta jivanam/ Kavibhir iditam kalmas’apaham/
Sravana mangalam srimadatatam/
Bhuvi grnanti ye bhurida janah//

Thy nectar sweet words soothe lives scorched in the fires of worldliness and purify the blemishes of our hearts. They have been sung by sages and saints of all ages. Listening to Thy words with faith and devotion is conducive to our spiritual well-being, harmony and peace. Those who spread Thy words are indeed the givers of the highest treasures to humanity.

The Kathamrita (as the gospel of sri Ramakrishna is called in its original Bengali )is indeed  just this.
Thanks very much Anilbhai for the wonderful excerpt from the gospel of Sri Ramakrishna.
Here is another wonderful scene-just to contemplate on this is to taste the sweetness of the presence:

Master's different spiritual moods
Presently some devotees from Konnagar arrived, singing kirtan to the accompaniment of drums and cymbals. As they reached the northeast verandah of Sri Ramakrishna's room, the Master joined in the music, dancing with them intoxicated with divine joy. Now and then he went into samadhi, standing still as a statue. While he was in one of these states of divine unconsciousness, the devotees put thick garlands of jasmine around his neck. The enchanting form of the Master reminded the devotees of Chaitanya, another Incarnation of God. The Master passed alternately through three moods of divine consciousness: the inmost, when he completely lost all knowledge of the outer world; the semi-conscious, when he danced with the devotees in an ecstasy of love; and the conscious, when he joined them in loud singing. It was indeed a sight for the gods, to see the Master standing motionless in samadhi, with fragrant garlands hanging from his neck, his countenance beaming with love, and the devotees singing and dancing around him.
When it was time for his noon meal, Sri Ramakrishna put on a new yellow cloth and sat on the small couch. His golden complexion, blending with his yellow cloth, enchanted the eyes of the devotees.

(Excerpt from the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna-11 march 1883.It was on the Great Master's birthday!)

Namaskar

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« Reply #3311 on: August 18, 2013, 05:02:57 PM »
Quote from Sri Ravi:
“The Master passed alternately through three moods of divine consciousness: the inmost, when he completely lost all knowledge of the outer world; the semi-conscious, when he danced with the devotees in an ecstasy of love; and the conscious, when he joined them in loud singing. It was indeed a sight for the gods, to see the Master standing motionless in samadhi, with fragrant garlands hanging from his neck, his countenance beaming with love, and the devotees singing and dancing around him.”



Dear Sri Ravi,

Ji. Yes. Thanks very much, sir. It is amazing! I am wonder-struck! It is all so deeply and intensely mystical that one is speechless when one comes face to face with such uplifting Embodiment of Divinity.

Ji. Yes. I know that ‘The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna’ is the English translation of ‘Sri Sri Ramakrishna Kathamrita’. To me, Sri Ramakrishna Paramhamsa, like Sri Bhagwan, is an Incarnation. Sri Bhagwan’s and Sri Paramhamsa’s Life enable us to see God face to face. The Life of either of them is indeed kathamrita. Bodiless, both Great Masters abide now as the innermost Self in the hearts of their devotees. Their Sublime Presence is still palpable, and one need go only to Sri Ramanasramam or Dakshineshwar to experience the verity of this truth for oneself.

An excerpt from ‘The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna’:

Master: Let me assure you that a man can realise his Inner Self through sincere prayer. But to the extent that he has the desire to enjoy worldly objects, his vision of the Self becomes obstructed.
M: Yes, sir. You always ask us to plunge into God.
Master (joyously): Yes! That’s it. Let me tell you that the realization of Self is possible for all, without any exception.
M: That is true, sir. But God is the Doer. He works through different beings in different ways, according to their capacity to manifest the Divine. God gives to some full spiritual consciousness, and others He keeps in ignorance.
Master: No, That is not so. One should pray to God with a longing heart. God certainly listens to prayer if it is sincere. There is no doubt about it.
A devotee: Yes, sir. There is the ‘I-consciousness’ in us; therefore, we must pray.
Master (to M.):A man should reach the Nitya, the Absolute, by following the trail of Lila, the Relative. It is like reaching the roof by the stairs. After realizing the Absolute, he should climb down to the Relative and live on that plane in the company of devotees, charging his mind with the love of God. This is my final and most mature opinion.
God has different forms, and He sports in different ways. He sports as Isvara, deva. Man, and the universe. In every age He descends to earth in human form, as an Incarnation, to teach people love and devotion. There is the instance of Chaitanya. One can taste devotion and love of God only through His incarnations. Infinite are the ways of God’s play, but what I need is love and devotion. I want only the milk. The milk comes through the udder of the cow. The Incarnation is the udder.
Was Sri Ramakrsihna hinting that He was an Incarnation of God? Did He suggest that those who saw Him saw God? Did He speak about Himself when speaking of Chaitnaya.


Dear sir, I deeply feel that, yes, those who saw Sri Paramhamsa or Sri Bhagwan saw God. Not only that, I feel that those who can invoke their Presence even now and see them palpably as the All-pervading Love and Illumination are seeing God only.


Thanks very much, dear sir.
Pranam,
  Anil

         


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Re: Self-enquiry as taught by Sri Bhagwan is enough
« Reply #3312 on: August 18, 2013, 06:33:22 PM »
Dear Devotees,


Sri Bhagwan : Meditation is impeded by vasanas (proclivities or affinities of the mind); hence it becomes effective through the progressive weakening of the vasanas. Some minds are like gunpowder which takes fire and is consumed at once; others are like charcoal, and some others are like wet fuel.

Dear devotees, Sri Bhagwan has taught that the mind cannot be controlled if one takes it to be something that really exists. In that case, we should remember Sri Bhagwan’s famous Statement that if it is taken to be something that really exists, mind behaves like a thief pretending to be a policeman running after the thief.  Thus, efforts made in this way serves only to give a new lease of life to the ego and the mind.

Sri Bhagwan: People ask me how to control the mind. I reply: ‘Show me the mind.’ The mind is no more than the series of thoughts. How can it be controlled by one of those thoughts , namely the desire to control the mind? It is foolish to seek to end the mind by the mind itself. The only way is to find the mind’s Source and keep hold of It. Then the mind will fade away of itself. YOGA  ENJOINS  CHITTA-VRITTI-NIRODHA   (REPRESSION  OF  THOUGHTS);  I  PRESCRIBE  ATMANVESHANA  (QUEST  OF  ONESELF),  WHICH IS  PRACTICABLE.

Dear devotees, we are aware that if the mind is repressed forcibly or violently as in swoon, or as the effect of fasting, etc., the mind revives as soon as the cause is withdrawn. So, Sri Bhagwan has taught that there are just two ways of controlling the mind. Either seek its Source, or surrender it to be struck down by the Supreme Power. HOWEVER,   SURRENDER   IMPLIES   THE   RECOGNITION   OF   A   HIGHER   OVERRULING    POWER.

Sri Bhagwan : If the mind refuses to help in seeking the Source, let it go and wait for its return; then turn it inwards.  NO   ONE   SUCCEEDS   WITHOUT   PATIENT   PERSEVERANCE.
 
Dear devotees,  Sri Bhagwan has taught that the only way is to find the mind’s Source and keep hold of it. Is it not? But I wish to say that our Source is within ourselves. TO THAT  SOURCE  SURRENDER  SHOULD  BE  MADE;  THAT IS,  ONE  SHOULD  SEEK  THAT  SOURCE  AND  BY  THE  VERY  STRENGTH  OF  THAT  SEARCH  MERGE  INTO  IT.

Sri Bhagwan : The question ‘Where is the Source?’ can arise only if it be thought that the Self is different from the Source. If the ego becomes merged into its Source, then there is no ego, no individual soul; that is, the seeker becomes one with the Source. That being the case, where is surrendering?  WHO   IS  TO  SURRENDER  AND  TO  WHOM?  THIS  LOSS  OF  INDIVIDUALITY –WHICH  EVEN  NOW  DOES  NOT  REALLY  EXIST—IS  DEVOTION,  WISDOM  AND  THE  QUEST.


Dear devotees, this is why I have always felt that ‘seeking to look at the Source is not the Enquiry as taught by Him or ‘where is the Source?’ is not a valid question because these practices assume that the  SELF  IS  DIFFERENT  FROM  THE  SOURCE.


Thanks very much.
Pranam,
  Anil   


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Re: Self-enquiry as taught by Sri Bhagwan is enough
« Reply #3313 on: August 18, 2013, 08:01:13 PM »
The Master asked Sri Thakur Dada to sing.
Sri Thakur Dada sang:

I shall become a yogi and dwell in Love’s mountain cave;
I shall be lost in yoga beside the Fountain-head of Bliss.
I shall appease mu hunger for Knowledge with the fruit of Truth;
I shall worship the Feet of God with flower of Dispassion.

I shall not seek a well to slake the burning thirst of my heart,
But I shall draw the water of Peace into the jar of my soul.
Drinking the glorious Nectar of Thy blessed Lotus Feet,
I shall both laugh and dance and weep and sing on the heights of joy.


Master: Ah, what a nice song! ‘Fountain-head of Bliss’! ‘Fruit of Truth’! ‘Laugh and dance and weep and sing’! Your song tastes very sweet to me.
The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna


Yes, dear devotees, the song tastes like Nectar to me!

“LAUGH  AND  DANCE  AND  WEEP  AND  SING  ON  THE  HEIGHTS  OF  JOY”!   


Pranam,
  Anil

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Re: Self-enquiry as taught by Sri Bhagwan is enough
« Reply #3314 on: August 18, 2013, 11:31:50 PM »
Anil/Friends,

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Dear sir, I deeply feel that, yes, those who saw Sri Paramhamsa or Sri Bhagwan saw God. Not only that, I feel that those who can invoke their Presence even now and see them palpably as the All-pervading Love and Illumination are seeing God only.


Anilbhai,today at the Sri Ramakrishna mutt Mylapore,Chennai I happened to meet one who has seen Sri Bhagavan in person.It was Sri V Ganesan!
He attended the evening ArAtrikam(vespers)to Sri Ramakrishna at the New temple and left as soon as it was over.The Swamiji who conducts the vespers is a rare mahatma and is always a treat to watch.I warmly recommend that whosoever gets an opportunity to be in chennai on a sunday evening may take advantage and visit the evening ArAtrikam and Bhajans(18:30 hrs -20:00 hrs).
The Bhajans are wonderful and the repertoire is quite vast-Songs of Mira,kabir,Tulasidas,Purandara dasa,Ramprasad,Girish Gosh,Mahakavi Bharathi,Shuddhananda Bharati,Sri Sankaracharya,Saint Appar,Saint Ramalinga Swamigal,.....and Sri Akshara Mana Maalai(first ten verses)of Sri Bhagavan besides Namavalis.The songs on Sri Ramakrishna and The Holy Mother Sri Sarada Devi are truly excellent.
On Ekadasi days there will be chanting of Ramnam and Shuddha Brahma Paratpara ram,Hanuman Chalisa,etc.
The atmosphere in the Temple Hall is truly vibrant and suffused with spiritual power.
Warmly recommended.
Namaskar.