“Like the snake the mind does not exist at all in the first place. What we call as mind is only collection of thoughts. When these
thoughts become nil, then the mind which is not at existing, becomes the Self.”
(Quote: Sri Subramanian Sir)
“I'd like to add another point of view too, here -
Like how we need another thorn to remove the first thorn, when this discernment happens that, the first thorn never really is, was, there is no more need of the second thorn as well! The second thorn needs to be discarded. Second thorn is as good as the first one!
This is simple pure awareness of the reality.
Here "Knowing" is discerning that the first thorn never really is, and, "Being" is discarding the second thorn and just being by discerning the reality of the second thorn as well, which we usually fail to do discern!
Having known, we have to remain with this Discernment! We generally get addicted with the second thorn and keep holding on to it for ever and have countless Births. We need that 100% conviction that root has been seen and convinced that it is not there, and, then live by "that" AS IS”
(Quote: Sri Nagaraj Ji)
Dear Sri Subramanian Sir and Sri Nagaraj Ji,
Dear Sri Subramanian sir, Ji, yes, mind is naturally pure. It is contaminated by the latent tendencies. Latent tendencies make the mind impure, and as a consequence, it is externalised. Thoughts can become nil, as you said, only by the destruction the tendencies (vasanas). A mind, divested of tendencies and consequently of thoughts, is the Pure and the Silent Mind, which is verily the Self. Thank you so much, sir.
Dear Sri Nagaraj Ji, yes, this is a great insight. Thank you so much, sir. First thorn is the attention to the second and third person objects and thoughts. Attention to the second and third persons implies a rising, a doing or a ‘kriya’. Second thorn is the Self-attention or attention on to the first person and the first person alone, which is not a doing, or a rising as the ego, or a kriya. First person attention itself is ‘being’. Dear Sri Nagaraj Ji, I appreciated following lines from your post greatly.
“Here "Knowing" is discerning that the first thorn never really is, and, "Being" is discarding the second thorn and just being by discerning the reality of the second thorn as well, which we usually fail to do discern!”
Yes, knowing is discerning that that there never was an individual ‘I’, the second thorn, so to say. And with this conviction one remains as one naturally is, discarding all thorns and obstacles, immersed in the Bliss of the Atma-swarupa, as mere Being. That is the Goal. That is the culmination of the sadhana. That is being still and knowing that ‘I am God’ or ‘I AM THAT I AM’.
Dear Sri Subramanian sir and sri Nagaraj Ji, I once again express my heart-felt gratitude for your insightful posts. Thank you once again.
Regards,
Anil