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« Reply #1365 on: August 30, 2011, 05:30:35 PM »
“The Upanishads says that a man loves his wife not for the sake of wife, but for the
Self within, he loves the son not for the sake of the son but for the sake of the Self within. All
love is only love of the Self.”

Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,

Ji. Yes. Whoever we love, we love only for the sake of the Self. And , therefore, True Love is the Love of the Self for the Self or God. For, in this Love, there is no movement, no reflection, no division. The Love is Unitary.   

So also, True Happiness belongs to our own Inner Nature, that is the Self. Sri Bhagwan has taught us that pleasure has no independent existence, It does not reside in external objects at all. However, it appears that securement of desired external objects give pleasures. But the pleasures we derive from the external objects, when a desired object is secured, or when the hated one is eliminated, is due to release of our own inherent Happiness. Happiness is the Nature of the Self and is constant unlike pleasures. Everybody is thirsting for the Happiness. But seeking It outside is futile. Happiness is our very nature. To experience It we must regain our Natural Egoless State.

Sri Bhagwan gives the simile of a hungry dog. He says that a hungry street dog munches a fleshless bare bone, and tastes its own blood in the process, but it thinks that is in the bones. So too, we assume that the pleasures we derive are in the things and objects that we seek and get hold of after much strenuous efforts.

Dear sir, desire is the cause of our being exiled from the True Happiness that is within us and which is our birth right. EVEN MOMENTARY CESSATION OF DESIRE ALLOWS US TO TASTE A LITTLE OF THAT HAPPINESS FOR THE TIME BEING TILL, OF COURSE, ANOTHER DESIRE GAINS MOENTUM AND EXILES US ONCE AGAIN TO EPHEMERAL THINGS OUTSIDE.

Thank you so much, sir.

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  Anil
   


 

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« Reply #1366 on: August 31, 2011, 07:26:24 AM »
Dear Devotees,

Lord of the Gita declares, “I am the Self dwelling in the hearts of all beings. I am the beginning, and the middle and the end of all beings.” (V. 10-20, Srimad Bhagavad Gita)
Therefore, one should have  no doubt that God Himself is the Self of all. It is not said by Him that he is the self of Selves implying that there is one Self and there are many selves.
Sri Bhagwan : To think of yourself as something separate from the Source, namely God, is itself a theft; for by this you appropriate what belongs to God. If you want to remain separate even after being made pure, and to enjoy God, it is wholesale theft. Does he not know all this?
And more :
The offering of oneself to God is similar to the offering, to a Ganesh-figure made of jaggery, of a portion of jaggery taken from the figure itself; for there is no individual self apart from Him.

All the above quotes are well known among the devotees of Sri Bhagwan and they need no explanation.  So, the matter that that there is no individual self apart from God is settled for once and all. Nature of truth being so, Sri Bhagwan sums up self-surrender thus :
“All that one needs to do is to surrender oneself to the Source of oneself. There is no need to get confused by calling that Source God and assuming that it is somewhere outside. One’s Source is within oneself. To that Source the surrender should be made; that is, one should seek that Source and by the very force of that search merge into It. The question ‘Where is the Source?’ can arise only if it be thought that the Self is different from the Source. If the ego becomes merged into its Source, then there is no ego, no individual soul; that is seeker becomes one with the Source. That being the case, where is surrendering ? Who is to surrender and to whom? And what is there to be surrendered? This loss of individuality—which even now does not really exist—is devotion, wisdom and the Quest.”(Quoted from Maha Yoga, p. 214-215)

 Dear devotees, we are aware that Sri Bhagwan enjoined and advised self-surrender to all such devotees who were not prepared to practice Atma-vichara. There is no doubt that the goal that is attained by the seekers of Truth by Enquiry can be attained by the devotees through Self-surrender. When a devotee gradually realises, through the working of the Power of the Grace of God, that God alone exists and that he is nothing, such understanding leads him to surrender which grows to be complete self-surrender with perseverance with love.

Sri K. Lakshmana Sarma writes so beautifully in Maha Yoga:
“Grace is, of course, a rather unphilosophical  word; but it is a name for something that is real and effective; it consists in the truth that God is even now the Real Self; that truth fulfils itself in some mysterious way; but the devotee can give it no other name than Grace.”
 
Dear devotees, Sri Bhagwan says that Grace is the Self. Therefore, there is no confusion when Sri Sarma says that Grace consists in the truth that God is even now the real Self and that truth fulfils itself in some way or the other.

Sri Bhagwan has explained that Grace has three states; in the first stage the ultimate Truth appears as God, who is far away and unapproachable. By devotion to God who thus appears, the second state of the Grace is reached and God appears to the devotee as the Guru. The Guru points him out that God that you are seeking is verily your own Self. The devotion to God is replaced by the devotion to the Guru. This devotion to the Guru leads up to the manifestation of the highest Grace and the third state of the Grace is reached—Self-realisation.

Sri Sarma says that the self-surrender is the condition of the perfect working of Grace. Partial or complete—it takes one towards egolessness. Sri Bhagwan also assures that surrenderer need not worry about his own good and evil actions of the past; their reactions would not work to his disadvantage; for Grace would dispose of them so as to turn them to his advantage. The whole function of Grace is the elimination of the sheaths, after which real Self alone will remain.
 Dear devotees, there is no individual Self apart from God or the Self. Therefore, notion of surrender is an act of theft.  What is actually meant by the term self-surrender is just cessation of this theft, by the recognition by the devotee that he himself has no separate existence whatever.           

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    Anil

   
 

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« Reply #1367 on: August 31, 2011, 03:02:42 PM »
Dear Devotees,

When Sri Maurice Frydman, a noted western devotees of sri Bhagwan, was on his first visit, sometime in 1935, to Sri Ramanasramam, he entered the Hall and announced himself before Sri Bhagwan, hat in hand but shoes still on. Sri Bhagwan ordered a stool for him upon which he seated cross-legged for a short time. And then he withdrew and came back without shoes and squatted on the floor of the Hall. He himself mentions that he was ordered out by His devotees as he had not taken off his shoes. Anyway, I am right now not much concerned with details. I mentioned this detail only as a background for the ensuing conversation he had with Sri Bhagwan which is as follows :

Sri Frydman : Why should there be illusion if the individual soul is identical with the Supreme?
Sri Bhagwan gave him the usual answer He used to give to such questions and then began to chew betel leaves. In the meantime Sri Frydman was ruminating and with dramatic gestures asked thus :
Sri Frydman : Why should not the ego be cut down at one stroke and destroyed so as to gain Supreme Bliss ?
The book says that Sri Bhagwan stopped chewing his betel leaves long enough to smile and then broke out into laughter and asked:
Sri Bhagwan : Hold out your ego so that I can strike it down.
Everyone in the hall laughed including Sri Frydman and at the conclusion of the laughter Sri Frydman addressed Sri Bhagwan thus :
Sri Frydman: “YES, NOW I UNDERSTAND.”

Dear devotees, Sri Frydman eventually became a resident of Sri Ramanasramam for a period of nearly three years and during later stage of his stay in the Ashram, he is said to have compiled ‘Maharshi’s Gospel’.

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  Anil
   

 

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« Reply #1368 on: September 01, 2011, 08:37:40 AM »
Dear Devotees,

Therefore, the Seer, or Witness, or Presence, or Illumination, is alone the unchanging Reality and the Self. What is seen is non-Self. When we take to Self-enquiry holding on to this fundamental Reality, the physical body and the life-current (prana) operating in the body as well as the mind are eliminated as non-Self. Even the intellect with its reasoning faculty, which is known as the highest known principle in us, has to be discarded eventually as the non-Self, for it is only the faculty of one behind it who claims it to be his. Who is he ? Divested of body, prana, mind and intellect, he cannot stand by himself and so disappears. What then remains as the Source of all these including the ‘I’-sense  in us is the Self which is ever there as the Basis of all that appears and disappears, of all perceptions in the waking and dream states and non-perception of anything in deep sleep.

Truth is stated and explained in a few simple steps like the above, but the mysterious force of darkness known as the veiling power is such that it can be eradicated only by vigilant Self-enquiry carried out constantly with perseverance. The inherent tendencies (vasanas) of the mind can get totally annihilated only if we put in constant effort to abide in the Heart. SELF-REALISATION IS NOTHING BUT THE COMPLETE ERADICATION OF THE EGO WITH ALL ITS VASANAS.

TRUE, GRACE IS NEEDED; LOVE IS ADDED. BLISS WELLS UP.
Therefore, Grace is needed for the ‘Dawn of Atma-Jnana’ (Self-knowledge). But to deserve this Grace, earnest aspiration and love and devotion must be added on the part of the seekers.
So, it follows that WHEN EARNEST EFFORT AND GRACE MEET, HIGHEST SPIRITUAL ASPIRATION OF MAN, THAT IS, INHERENCE IN EVER-PRESENT SELF, IS ACHIEVED.

Dear devotees, it is not very difficult to discriminate between the unalloyed, pure Awareness of the Self and the mental awareness which is soiled awareness of this and that. Moreover, the mind cannot stand for a moment without an object, because subject-object phenomenon is at the root of its existence. So, it is certain to disappear if it is divested or stripped of the objects by Enquiry, unable to stand by itself. WHEN THE PHANTOM OF THE SELF, THAT IS, EGO, DISAPPEARS, WHAT REMAINS IS THE PLENITUDE AND PERFECTION “I AM THE SELF”.

Once we are established in our True Self thus, the subject-object phenomena may appear and disappear but one truly remains as Pure Awareness, since nothing has any existence apart from That. BEING THE SELF IS THE AWARENESS OF THE SELF.

At long last we know that we have no existence apart from the Pure Awareness. There is no world apart from it either. Sri Bhagwan says that neither is there any God other than Pure Awareness. THAT AWARENESS, THAT SOLE REALITY, IS UNALLOYED BLISS AS WELL. MANIFESTATION AS THE MANY IS ITS LEELA.

Thank You,
   Anil         


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« Reply #1369 on: September 01, 2011, 04:02:33 PM »
                 True Being
As Being-Awareness which transcends
Both knowing and forgetting, you,
Lord Ramana, reveal, how pure
Being is clarity and stillness.
Let us with steady mind adore
Your flowery Feet, that fount of bliss.
                        V. 1179, Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai

As Being-Awareness which transcends
Both searching and fatigue, you say,
Lord Ramana, that Being alone
Is what abides for ever. Let us
With steadfast mind adore that fount
Of nectar, your twin flowery Feet.
                        V. 1181, Sri Ramana sannidhi Murai

Dear Devotees,

There is absolutely nothing except Being-Awareness and That is our Atma-Swarupa, our True Self. What, at present, we know of ourselves is the ego which is nothing but merely the shadow of the Real Self. What is a shadow? Nothing but a shutting or blocking of the light. So exactly is the ego.  Ego and everything else are intangible, non-existent and unsubstantial shadow, only a shutting out of the Light of the Self. So, there is nothing except the Being-Awareness. And in Being-Awareness there is neither knowing and forgetting nor searching and fatigue. For this reason, Sri Bhagwan says that there can be no method for being what one all along in truth is.

Therefore, dear devotees, the quint essence of true teaching can be nothing other than “Just be” and that is verily the Core of Sri Bhagwan’s Teaching : “BE. JUST BE YOUR REAL SELF, THAT’S ALL.”

So, I must just be, that is all. It sounds easy and all right but when one starts practicing to be what one is, it does not appear that easy. Why? Because just to be, ‘I’ must know  ‘I’ that is.  If I do not know my ‘I’, how can I just be what I am ? Hence the enquiry “Who am I?”, to know the ‘I’ that is, is taught. Everything other than ‘I’ is rejected. No notice of anything is to be taken except ‘I’. And when at long last True ‘I’ is reached by Enquiry, BE. No method, nothing to discard and nothing to find. There is absolutely nothing except ‘I’. No need to worry about anything else. JUST BE, NOW AND ALWAYS, AS ONE WAS, AS ONE IS, AND AS ONE EVER WILL BE.

Thank You,
   Anil                                       

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« Reply #1370 on: September 02, 2011, 08:38:28 AM »
The triputis and their source, pure consciousness, can, under no circumstances, appear simultaneously. Like the wood and the elephant in a wooden elephant, when one appears, the other will disappear.
                                        Padamalai, V. 7, p. 270

In a carved statue of a dog, the dog and the stone cannot be seen simultaneously. Similarly, the Supreme is concealed when the world is seen; but when the Supreme is seen, the world disappears. Both cannot be seen distinctly at the same time.
                                          V. 46, Guru Vachka Kovai

Until the false appearance of the snake goes, the real rope, the base, will not be known. Likewise, until the false appearance of the world vanishes, the real Self, the base, will not be seen.
                                          V. 876, Guru Vachka Kovai

Dear Devotees,

The elephant hides the wood and the wood hides the elephant. Story is that a pedestrian walking on the road was frightened at the sight of a ferocious dog chained to a pillar at the gate of a wealthy man’s house. The dog and chain were however very skilful pieces of art. But the pedestrian took it for real and hurt himself in his attempt to dodge it. A kindly neighbour took pity on him and showed him that it was not a living dog. When the same man passed by it the next time he admired the skill of the sculptor and forgot his old experience of hurt. Thus, when he found in to be dog in the first instance, he could not see the stone of which it was made; and again when he found it a piece of sculptor, he did not see any dog which could hurt him. Similarly, in the elephant made of wood, when elephant is seen, wood, the base, is not seen and when the wood is seen, elephant is not seen. So, the famous Tirumandiram Verse says ‘Elephant hides the wood and the wood hides the elephant.’ Unless the knowledge of the snake, the imaginary superimposition on the rope, goes, the knowledge of the rope, which is the base, will not be obtained.

Dear devotees, so also, the True Nature of the Self and the Brahman is Sat-chit-Ananda (Existence-Consciousness-Bliss) and the world and its names and forms are merely false aspects of the Self or the Brahman. THEREFORE, TRUE NATURE OF THE SELF AS SAT-CHIT-ANANDA AND ITS FALSE APPEARNCE AS WORLD AND NAMES AND FORMS CANNOT BE SEEN SIMULTANEOULY. Sri Bhagwan has repeatedly emphasised that that unless the perception of the world, which is an imaginary super-imposition, ceases, the realisation of Self, which is the base, will not be obtained.

Dear devotees, we see the world. But this perception implies the existence of a seer and the seen. The objects are alien to the seer. The seer is intimate, being the Self. But, alas! We do not turn our attention to finding out the obvious seer but are busy about analysing, knowing, and securing the non-existent seen. But the more the mind expands in this manner, the farther it is exiled from its own truth and therefore Self-realisation is rendered that much more difficult and complicated.
“WE MUST GAIN IRRVERSIBLE CONVICTION THAT GREATNESS OF THE SEER FAR, FAR SURPASSES THE PETTY APPEARANCE OF THE SO-CALLED ‘SELF-EVIDENT’ OBJECTS THAT ARE SEEN LIKE FOAM IN THE PURE AWARENESS. THEREFORE, SEE ONLY THAT WHO SEES.

Thank You,
   Anil       

 

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« Reply #1371 on: September 02, 2011, 10:29:04 AM »
Dear Devotees,

For Sri Bhagwan all things were consciousness plus forms. He always stressed on the essential unity of all life notwithstanding the difference in appearances. As a result Sri Bhagwan was a loving friend of all life, human, animal, plant and other. His compassionate heart would often make him plead on their behalf whenever he noticed any kind of discrimination or injustice or harm to them. It is well known among the devotees of Sri Bhagwan that whenever the Cow Lakshmi, Shakuntala (beloved adopted daughter) of the Ashram, trespassed on the small vegetable garden of the Asharam, Sri Bhagwan objected to her being scolded or roughly treated. “You must fence your plot better. The fault is there and not with Lakshmi”,  He would say.
 

There is an interesting happening at the Ashram in 1948, recorded by devotee Sri Narayanan, illustrating the sense of equality which prevailed. Once, not finding Sri Bhagwan at his usual place, he and his friend were wandering round the Ashram when they heard a childlike voice “Chee, Chee, Asatte, (stupid fellow)”. Looking in the direction from which the sound emanated in the kitchen garden they saw a small goat, a little monkey, a squirrel and Sri Bhagwan. “Sri Bhagwan was sitting on His haunches with His legs folded up to His breast. The goat rested between His knees, the monkey had its head resting on the right knee and a squirrel perched on his left knee! Holding a packet of paper in his left palm, Sri Bhagwan picked up groundnuts from it and from right hand fingers , one by one, fed the goat, monkey, the squirrel and Himself by turns. His remarks seemed to have been addressed to the monkey which had tried to snatch a nut as he was about to place it in the squirrel’s mouth. As we watched, the four companions went on enjoying the eating. All the four seemed equally happy; the way they looked at each other and kept close together was quite touching. The goat, monkey, the squirrel and Sri Bhagwan, had obviously forgotten the differences in their species! We, too looking on, saw all the four only as good friends despite their differences in forms. No words could describe the feelings which passed through my being at the sight. The vision of the transcendent appeared as a flash of lightening revealing to me the essence of being, as awareness bliss.

The nuts were over. Sri Bhagwan threw the packet away, and said, ‘Pongada’ (go away, you fellows) just as an old man talking to his grandchildren. The goat, monkey and the squirrel left. Sri Bhagwan got up. “Parthasarathi and I hurried away, feeling guilty of trespass into the divine, but not sorry.”

Dear devotees, I do not think that I need to do any comment, for, the brilliant narration of the episode itself tells it all. 
                                                                                          Source : Timeless In Time

Than You,
  Anil




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« Reply #1372 on: September 02, 2011, 08:42:56 PM »


Dear Anil,

I was away to Tiruvannamalai  for being there for Arunai Vijayam
- 1st Sept. 2011;  I shall  answer your posts, if they warrant any
special comments soon.



Arunachala Siva.
 

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« Reply #1373 on: September 03, 2011, 12:42:06 AM »
Dear Subramanian garu,

Nice to know that you went to Tiruvannamalai  and please do let us know your experiences.

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« Reply #1374 on: September 03, 2011, 09:21:59 AM »
Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,

Ji. Yes. I guessed that you are on a visit to Sri Ramanasramam on the occasion of Sri Bhagwan’s Advent Day. However, I did not know that the Advent Day is also known as ‘Arunai Vijayam’. I would request you to kindly give details of your visit so that we may also benefit from it. Anything from the Guru Ashram satisfies our longing to at least some extent. Kindly also give the details of the ‘Special Worship’ that is performed on this occasion in the Asramam.

Dear sir, I have been engaged by my Department in the emergency duty of flood control on the holy banks of the river Ganges. I perform my duty to the best of my capacity. Whatever work is assigned to me I try to do it in the manner as Sri Bhagwan has taught us, like the accountant or the cashier— attentive but unattached.   So, I will not be able to attend to discussion on the forum regularly, as I have done so far, during the month of September.

Dear sir, I joined the forum to earnestly discuss only Teachings of Sri Bhagwan with the members of the forum. Will you believe, I have not found a single person in Bihar so far who is aware of Sri Bhagwan’s Teaching and is a devotee, though there  may be some devotees somewhere unknown to me? You cannot imagine my state when, by His abundant Grace, I became aware of Him and his Teaching! All that was important for me up to this point of time suddenly dropped and I did care for nothing other than Sri Bhagwan, His Teaching and Sri Ramanasramam. AND I WISHED TO TALK SOMETHING ABOUT HIM WITH SOMEBODY. BUT ALAS! Nobody was there ! At last I came to know about this forum and I promptly joined it. However, the problem of connectivity remained. But, by the Grace, I have been able to solve that problem also by purchasing a Note Pad.

Dear sir, I am aware that discussion under the current Topic has stretched a bit too far. But as I said before, I have benefitted immensely by this discussion and nothing could be more fruitful for me at this stage. Therefore, I wished to continue it till I am inspired from within to do so and am fully satisfied. So, I am a little sorry that I would not be able to write and discuss about Sri Bhagwan on a regular basis for at least some time. But, in truth, I do not bother, for I know that nothing can happen without His Will. In the end, It is all his Jugglery. Is it not ?

Thank you so much, sir.

Regards,
  Anil 

       

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« Reply #1375 on: September 03, 2011, 09:26:04 AM »
Can there be space, can there be time, except for me?
Space and time bound me, only if I am body,
I am nowhere, I am timeless
I exist everywhere and always.
                                                 Sri Bhagwan. Quoted from Timeless in Time, P. 358
   
                  ABSENCE
Lonely they go, with heavy heart,
The simple folk whose sunlight was His smile,
Who loved His laughter and deep silences
And gracious ways,
Hungry they go, who fed on Grace,
As Ramana,
Whose only doctrine was their love of Him.
Life holds henceforth an endless emptiness,
Though filled with Grace.
Silent they sit before His tomb, or pace around.
Bereaved they go in a sad life;
And well I know
The heart-ache for the living graciousness
The outer world will never hold again
For eyes of ours.
                         Sri Arthur Osborne, Last Days and Maha-Nirvana

Dear Devotees,

‘Absence’ sums up the state of the adoring devotees of Sri Bhagwan immediately after the ceremony connected with the Samadhi Shrine of Sri Bhagwan was over. Devotees loved Him too dearly and they did not envisage a situation in which His bodily presence would not be there. So, when Maha-Nirvana happened, they were plunged in grief and despair. Life lost meaning for them.
“We will no longer see our dear Bhagwan in that beautiful form of molten gold, in which he charmed and enchanted us for decades ! We will no longer see those compassionate eyes that gleamed like twin stars and peered into our innermost depths and dispelled the shadows that blurred our vision and understanding ! No more that kind and godly look of Grace that solaced our wearied souls and inspired our depressed hearts in speechless silence with peace unbounded, or that bewitching and enchanting radiant smile that fascinated us and drew us to him, to heights of bliss far above the world. No more we could hear that sweet and ringing voice, the talks of sparkling wit and humour, or those words of profound wisdom from the depths of deep realisation which intellect could not fathom.”

Sri S.S. Cohen observes : It looks as if we are on the eve of the Doomsday, the eve of a day on which we are destined to be deprived of everything we hold dear worth living for……

Sri Wolter Keers pinpoints the problem thus : Whenever they had problem they could always go to Ramana and get a clarification from him. “Now that my master is no longer there as talking, visible being, I am lost; and there seems to be no one who can enlighten me.

But Sri Osborne observes: And yet there was not the wild grief and despair that so often followed the departure of a Spiritual Master from the earth. The normality that had been so pronounced still continued. It began to be apparent with what care and compassion Sri Bhagwan had prepared his devotees for this. Nevertheless, during those first days and weeks of bereavement few cared to remain at Tiruvannamalai.

           PRESENCE
But then Sri Osborne writes:
‘There was no emptiness, no cause for tears,
When I went back to Arunachala
And trod the ways that for these many years
Shone with God’s Grace in the form of Ramana.
And then, I sat in silence, as of old,
Before Him. Like a sudden wave
His mighty Peace surged through me to enfold
In knowledge-Being beyond birth and grave.
Ineffable, beyond the range of thought,
The timeless Peace that from His Presence flows:
Even vaster now the wealth of Grace he brought
Through human form and formless now bestows.
                                   Sri Arthur Osborne, Last Days and Maha-Nirvana     

Sri Paul Brunton writes in 1970, “I can truthfully declare that his face, expression, figure and surroundings are as vivid now as they were then. What is even more important to me is that during my daily periods of meditation today, the feeling of his radiant presence is as actual and as immediate today as it was on the first day.” He concludes that REASON FOR THIS IS BECAUSE SRI RAMANA IS A PURE CHANNEL FOR HIGHER POWER.

Swami Dayananda says , “Ramana’s figure-his name-is a window for that stillness, silence. You can look through that window not merely for hundred years but for all time to come

Likewise, many devotees found for themselves the truth of Sri Bhagwan’s affirmation, “Where can I go ? I am here. ”Denied the extraordinary beauty of His physical Presence, they learnt to discover His Inner Presence even more keenly than before.

Sri Cohen writes, “When Sri Bhagwan used to say that the Guru is not the body many failed to grasp its meaning; but as time passed and as He continued to show them His Grace and support in their meditation the significance of these words gradually became clear.”

Dear devotees, WHAT OF US WHO DOES NOT HAVE THE BLESSING OF THE PHYSICAL CONTACT ?  THE ANSWER IS IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO THE POWER OF HIS PRESENCE.  We experience His Powerful Presence at His Samadhi, by reading His books and by merely looking at His photographs.

Sri Carl Friedrich Von Weizakar of Germany records that a few years after his Maha-Nirvana, he sat after lunch for meditation on the floor of the Samadhi. “In a flash the barriers of the ego, You-Me, were broken. Tears of bliss flowed involuntarily and he discovered the true meaning of love.”

Many devotees have recorded that after reading the very first book he was convinced that Sri Bhagwan was his Guru. Once this conviction dawned, Sri Bhagwan’s Grace is revealed to him either through dreams, or in internal responses on important occasions. The mighty ego still starts melting in the fire of wisdom.  AND ONE KNOWS THAT THERE IS NEVER A MOMENT WHEN HE IS APART FROM HIM.

Thank You,
  Anil             

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« Reply #1376 on: September 03, 2011, 01:42:07 PM »


Dear Anil, prasanth,

I had been to Tiruvannamalai for the Arunai Vijayam Day. My wife and I
left Bangalore on 31st August and reached the Asramam by 10.15
am on that morning.  In fact, we went one day earlier and were waiting
for Sri Bhagavan!  Many people had  already been there for celebrations
on 1st Sept 2011.

Interestingly there is one Madurai Group. I am told that they - about
60 persons, men and women, boys and girls, come every year for
the Arunai Vijayam Day from Madurai. I met this Group persons. Most
of them are ardent devotees of Sri Bhagavan. They have been coming
like this, since 1995. I did not know. They are all members of Ramana
Kendra Madurai. They come by bus, from Madurai to Villupuram. Then
they take Sri Bhagavan's route. They walk and then after reaching some
distance, come to Tindivanam. From Tindivanam, they go to Kizhur,
where Sri Bhagavan was given rice by one drummer. at the Kizhur
Temple. After praying to Kizhur Siva, they present nice new dhotis and
upper clothes for all drummers and pipers because one such drummer had
given Sri Bhagavan, some rice on that night. From Kizhur they go to
 Muthukrishna Bhagavatar's house and meet his further generation people.
Muthukrishna Bhagavatar had given Sri Bhagavan, Rs 4.00 against the ear
studs and his sister had given Him delicacies prepared for Gokulashtami.
Now, they understand that that particular house has been demolished and
new constructions have come. So they could not meet Bhagavatar's descendents.
Then they board the same bus which they had engaged and come to
Tiruvannamalai, visit Arunachaleswaa temple first,  as done by Sri Bhagavan
and then they come to Asramam. It was nice to speak to this Group. They
sang Aksharamana Maalai and Sri Ramana Stuti Panchakam both on 1st monring
and 1st afternoon.

Otherwise, pujas for Mother's temple and Sri Bhagavan Samadhi were done
elaborately and nice lunch and dinner were given to all who had come. About
500 people were there on all the two days. Ilaiyaraja and Nochur Venkatraman
had come. 2nd Sept. being a Friday, Cow Lakshmi Samadhi Puja was also done
elaborately.  We visited the Temple on 2nd late morning but it was terribly crowded
since it was marriage muhurtam day. We could not have darshan of Annamalai
and Unnamulai since there were 1000 people from various wedding parties
had been in the queue.

We could have darshan of Kambathu Ilaiyanar [Muruga] and Ganapati at
the Eastern Towers entrance.

The trip was quite pleasant and peace giving. Surprisingly, on 31st evening,
it rained heavily for about 40 minutes as it rained on the day when Sri
Bhagavan arrived at Arunachala on 1st Sept. 1896.     .     
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Arunachala Siva.   
 
 


   

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« Reply #1377 on: September 04, 2011, 11:45:47 AM »
Dear Sri Subramanian Sir,

I became very happy to read the details of your visit to Sri Ramanasramam
on the occasion of Sri Bhagwan's Advent Day. The knowledge that the Great
Journey undertaken by Sri Bhagwan to reach Sri Arunachalam is emulated every
on Sri Bhagwan's Advent Day was very, very heartening indeed. How I wish I would have
been there!

This is so very kind of you that you have posted in detail about worship that is performed
on this occasion. Thank you so much, sir.

Regards,
  Anil

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« Reply #1378 on: September 04, 2011, 12:05:08 PM »
Dear Subramanian garu,

Thanks a lot sir for describing your experiences in detail sir.

I felt so happy reading your experiences sir.

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« Reply #1379 on: September 04, 2011, 01:19:20 PM »
Dear Devotees,

I feel that devotion is a very important and powerful element in Sri Bhagwan’s Teaching. Knowledge, Sri Bhagwan speaks of, is not the ordinary knowledge, necessitating a link between knower, known and knowledge; but it is the Knowledge of the self-effulgent Self. And Sri Bhagwan taught that the approach to it is through love as well as Self-enquiry. Self-enquiry is the mind’s attempt to turn inward and it is the love for the Self that draws it inwards. Sri Bhagwan often said that to know the Self one must love the Self.  Therefore, dear devotees, LOVE FOR SRI BHAGWAN AND SELF-ENQUIRY OR THE ATMA-VICHARA ARE TWO ROPES THAT PULL THE MIND OF HIS DEVOTEE IRREVERSIBLY TOWARDS THE SELF.


Dear devotees, Self-enquiry as taught by Sri Bhagwan is a pure Advaitic Teaching, since its quest of the Self never admits the duality of a seeker and sought. This is also the reason why this method is said to be the most Direct method.

Now to Basics again :
Attempted attention is always disturbed by the thoughts but that is no cause for despondency. Indeed, it should be turned to advantage. Sri Bhagwan says that all kinds of thoughts arise in meditation. That is right; for what lies hidden in us is thus brought out. Unless it rises up, how can it be destroyed? Thoughts therefore rise up spontaneously in order to be extinguished altogether in due course, thereby strengthening the mind. So, Vichara’s first use is in quelling the thoughts. There are paths in which this process and others are clearly differentiated and all sorts of methods are employed to tackle the thoughts. Vichara as taught and enjoined by Sri Bhagwan is a holistic Path and a universal weapon. I feel that Supreme Wisdom and Silent Guidance of Sri Bhagwan is always  available that silently turn the Vichara in the right direction even without the devotee himself knowing how and why this is being done.

But having said as the above, I wish to reiterate that we should never forget that mere investigation into the mechanism of the mind cannot lead us to Self-realisation. For, it leaves the Primary question unanswered, “Who am I?”

We are aware that Sri Bhagwan teaches that when extraneous thoughts sprout up we should not flow with the thoughts; instead we should enquire deeply within, ‘To whom has this thought occurred? In this manner as one preserves more and more in the practice of Self-enquiry, the mind most certainly acquires increasing power to abide in the Source. Moreover, the integral I-thought, implicit in the enquiry, having destroyed all other thoughts, gets itself finally destroyed or consumed, even like the stick used for stirring the burning funeral pyre gets consumed. This is a great simile—stick used for stirring the funeral pyre. 

However, at the highest level of Self-enquiry, or may be for some from the very start, the easiest method, in my view, is to ignore thoughts and let them pass over like waves in the sea. For Sri Bhagwan says : If one fixed the attention on the Self or the Heart and ignored all thoughts which come up, remembering that they do not affect one, the mind will be controlled. Just as by holding one’s breath it it is possible by practice to withstand the onslaught of one wave after another, so is it possible to get over any number of thoughts if one hold on only to the ‘I’. I have seen Sri Subramanian sir advising this line of meditation which is very efficacious indeed.

Thank You,
  Anil