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Shreyah and Preyah
« on: September 23, 2010, 10:44:57 AM »
Katha Upanishad talks about Shreyah [that which is good for us]
and Preyah [that which is pleasurable for us].

One has to chose Shreyah ... but most often we fall for Preyah.

Waking up early in the morning ... Shreyah. But right when i want to make it a habit, the mind says "how nice it would be if we could sleep a little longer"... that is preyah... but not good for us. Sleeping a little longer is more pleasurable; but its not good.

We all fall for the preyah aspect due to our vasanas. But we should develop a kind of commitment to follow shreyah and do things that are right, rather than getting alured by the pleasurable things.

It is very important for us to have the commitment to lead a proper and Dharmic life. Leading an adharmic life is really dangerous for a spiritual person. By habit and due to our environment in which we live ... we tend to incorporate many adharmic elements into our lives, even before we have started on this spiritual endeavour. We have to eliminate these things slowly and steadily.

Nowadays things like "whats wrong in having an extra-marital affair" or "what is wrong if i drink a little" are fashionable. Even some, so called gurus, have sanctioned them in the name of religion [Osho for example]. This attitude has to be avoided.
We need to eliminate all adharmic attitudes --- both at mental and physical level. We genuinely need a systematic and disciplined lifestyle --- a lifestyle that is based upon Dharma.


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Re: Shreyah and Preyah
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 11:38:54 AM »



Dear srkudai,

Very nice.  Bhagavan Ramana did not say anything directly about
Sreyas and Preyas, but when someone asked Him about good thoughts
and bad thoughts, He clarified as under:

Talks No. 341:

Question:  Sri Bhagavan says that the state of realization is freedom
from the tyranny of thoughts.  Have not the thoughts got a place
in the scheme of things -- may on a lower plane?

Bhagavan:  The thoughts arise from the "I-thought" which in its
turn arises from the Self.  Therefore the Self manifests as "I" and other thoughts.  What does it matter if there are thoughts or no
thoughts?

Question:  Are good thoughts helpful for realization?  Are they not
authentic via media, a lower rung of the ladder to realization?

Bhagavan:  Yes - this way.  They keep off bad thoughts.  They must
themselves disappear before the state of realization.

Question:  But are not creative thoughts an aspect of realization
and therefore helpful?

Bhagavan:  Helpful only in the way said before.  They must all
diappear in the Self.  Thoughts, good or bad, take you farther and
farther and not nearer, because the Self is more intimate than
thoughts.  You are the Self, whereas the thoughts are alien to the
Self.

Sri Ramakrishna has also said through a metaphor that one should
use a thorn to remove another thorn on the sole and causing pain
and after digging out the paining thorn, the first one is also thrown away.


Arunachala Siva.   
 

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Re: Shreyah and Preyah
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 10:33:33 PM »
It is said that both sreyas and preyas always present themselves before us.  We have to discriminate and tread on the right path.  What gives us immediate pleasure  lead us ultimately to gloom and darkness.   

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Re: Shreyah and Preyah
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 11:09:22 AM »



Dear S. Subramanian,

Yes.  Both the good ones and pleasurable ones present themselves
before us.  The choice is ours.  I and my wife had been to Hyderabad
for Diwali to spend time with our son and daughter in law and also
her parents.  All of us had been to Pulla Reddy Sweets, on the morning of Diwali to buy some sweets.  The crowd was like that of a queue for laddu in Tirupati.  People were buying kgs of sweets.  I and my wife were wondering, how can a family, however big it is, can consume 5 kgs of sweets?  Or do they gift them to others?  Then
my daughter in law intervened and said:  Incidentally, Hyderabad
is the top most city for the percentage of diabetic patients!  So
as you said, sreyas and preyas present themselves before us.  We
should choose. 

We could go only to Skandagiri and Ramana Kendramu in Hyderabad.
I could not contact srkudai, since I had forgotten to take his address.  I met a few Andhra devotees in Ramana Kendramu,
Hyderabad.  One gentleman [presumably the speaker in the discourse
of the previous week], had proved through calculus:

To remember for ever the Self is birth.
To forget the Self is death.

I saw the calculus workings on the white board at the frontal hall.



Arunachala Siva.   

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Re: Shreyah and Preyah
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2010, 12:47:09 PM »
Dear Subramanian garu,

Glad to know that you have been to hyderabad.

Yes too much consuming of sweets is not good for health.


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Re: Shreyah and Preyah
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2010, 08:21:18 PM »



Dear prasanth,

Visit to Ramana Kendramu was a satisfying experience for me.
I and my wife and son spent some time in prayers.  They have
kept Vibhuti, Kumkum and sugar crystals as prasad.  It was
a tranquil atmosphere and being Diwali day, there were a few
visitors.  I was speaking one Mr. Sanjeeva Reddy, who gave
me some idea about how K. Subrahmanyam, a direct devotee of
Bhagavan Ramana, took great efforts in building a dhyana mantapam
and library hall there at Tilak Nagar.  A lot of books was for sale,
almost all the publications of the Asramam, in Telugu and English.
It was a nice experience. I saw the photograph of K. Subrahmanyam and also a cut out in his dhyana post.


Arunachala Siva.