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Ramana Maharshi About Path Of Love
« on: September 10, 2010, 01:39:18 PM »
26th April, 1948

This morning a Tamil youth approached Bhagavan and asked, “Swami, it is good to love God, is it not? Then why not follow the path of Love?”

“Who said you couldn’t follow it? You can do so. But when you talk of love, there is duality, is there not — the person who loves and the entity called God who is loved? The individual is not separate from God. Hence love means one has love towards one’s own Self.

For this, i.e., loving one’s own Self, examples have been given in the Vasudeva
Mananam, stage by stage. Man loves money most; but he loves his son more than money; his own body more than the son; his indriyas (the organs of the body) more than the body; the eye most among the organs; life more than the eye; and the self (atma) more than life.

This is exemplified thus: If the son does something untoward and the government decides to punish him for it, the parents offer money and even bribes to set him free. Hence the love towards the son is more than money.

If, however, the government does not accept money but say that they will let off the son if the father agrees to undergo the punishment himself instead, then the father
will say, ‘Do whatever you like with the boy; I have nothing to do with him’.

Hence the father loves his own body more than his son. If a man does something for which the powers that be say that his eyes must be plucked out, he tries to save
his eyes by agreeing to bodily torture; so bodily torture is preferred to loss of an organ.

If, however, they decide to take his life by beheading him, he would be prepared to lose his eyes or any other organ rather than lose his life; so life (prana) is loved more than the organs. 

In the same manner,a person who desires to have Atma-Anandam (bliss of the Self)
would be prepared to lose his life even, if necessary; so the Self is loved more than life.


Hence the idea of a person in loving God, is only with a view to being happy himself. He is, however, the embodiment of happiness and that happiness is God. Who else is to be loved? Love itself is God,” said Bhagavan.

“That is why I am asking you whether God could be worshipped through the path of love?” said the questioner.

“That is exactly what I have been saying. Love itself is the actual form of God. If by saying, ‘I do not love this; I do not love that’, you reject all things, that which remains is Swarupa, i.e., the innate Self. That is pure bliss. Call it pure
bliss, God, atma or what you will. That is devotion; that is realization and that is everything,” said Bhagavan.

“The meaning of what you say now is that we should reject all outside things which are bad, and also all those which are good, and love God alone.

Is it possible for anyone to reject everything, saying this is no good, that is no good,unless one experiences them?” said some other.

“That is true. To reject the bad, you must love the good.In due course that good also will appear to be an obstacle and will be rejected. Hence, you must necessarily first love what is good. That means you must first love and then reject the thing you love.

If you thus reject everything, what remains is the Self alone. That is real love. One who knows the secret of that love finds the world itself full of universal love,” said Bhagavan and resumed silence.

Source: Letters from Sri Ramanasramam VOLUMES I, II & Letters from and Recollections of Sri Ramanasramam By SURI NAGAMMA Translated by D. S. SASTRI

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Re: Ramana Maharshi About Path Of Love
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 02:27:24 PM »


Dear prasanth,

Excellent Yes.  God is Love.  Siva is Love.  There is no difference between God or Siva or even the Self.  They are all forms of Love.  Bhagavan Ramana says in Verse 2 of Sri Arunachala Padigam:  "You are the Form of Love. I am not melting like wax in fire, contemplating on you in my heart, I have no love, but will you not give me your love?"

Bhagavan Ramana said Dr. U.V. Swaminatha Iyer, a great savant of
Tamizh, when he asked Him:  "Bhagavan!  You say one has to leave
or desires but I am not able to leave my love for Tamizh.  What can I do?"  Bhagavan replied:  "Who asked you to leave the love for Tamizh?  Tamizh, Love, Siva - all mean the same!"  Swaminatha
Iyer was quite pleased.

True Love does not speak in words.  It only displays Love in silent gaze.  I think this is one of the reasons why Sri Dakshinamurty gave upadesa in silence, but with full of love, to the Sanaka and other
sages.

Arunachala Siva.     

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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 03:06:12 PM »
Subramanian Garu,

I really appreciate tamilians for their love of their mother tongue sir.

Sanatana Dharma language culture and history are getting degraded on daily basis and other parts of india should learn from tamilians for their strict love of their native language.

Few of my relatives donot know to read/write telugu language though they are fine speaking.

Infact they are proud to say that they speak 60% english and 40% telugu in their homs and they believe it is a status. :-)

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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 04:13:48 PM »


Dear prasanth,

I appreciate your sentiments.  But the story is not different in
Tamizh Nadu.  Brahmins speak brahminical sanskrit mixed Tamizh.
The DMK and ADMK politicians speak dravidian Tamizh, compulsively
ignoring Sanskrit and speak with difficult Tamizh equivalents. For
example, instead of using Jayithu Vaa, i.e come with Jayam, the victory, they say VenRu vaa.  It is a tough Tamizh equivalent which
is used only in poetry.  Further many Tamizhians of non brahmin
community, cannot pronounce "zha" ; they say Valaipalam instead of
Vazhai Pazham, plantain, Kela. Azhagu = beauty.  Bhagavan's Mother is Azhagammal.  They pronounce it as Alagu.  Alagu means javelin! The normal educated Tamizhians use English words left and right. They do not like Hindi but use English as if we are still governed by Englishmen.  Either one should speak English in full or Tamizh in full.  But they use a mixture and spoil both the languages.

Some new wave poet said:  We have sent back the Hindi/Sanskrit
by the front door, but invited English from back door! Siva is Tamizh.
Siva will run away from such people who use Tinglish, Tamizh and
English.


Arunachala Siva.   

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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 04:49:09 PM »
Dear Subramanian garu,

I agree with you.

Tinglish word you used is really funny sir.It made me bring a smile in my face  :)

Interacting in english in forums like these is fine sir as there are lot of westerners here and even for us indians a common language link is english but why speak english in homes also is my question?

Funny thing is they feel it is a status :-)

In Telugu there is a proverb "Poriginti Pulla Kura Ruchi"  means the horrible sour curry which is made in our neighbour's house will be more delicious for us than nice curry prepared in our home  :)

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 10:08:36 AM »


When Akhilandamma was hesitantly asking Bhagavan Ramana
for an Upadesa, He said:  "What Upadesa?  Unnaiye unakku kodu"
- Give yourself to your-Self.

All Upadesas are only giving oneself [the ego] to the Self within.


Arunachala Siva.