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Dear All,

Today is September 1st and we all know that according to english calendar bhagavan ramana came to the holy feet of arunachala.

Also this year coincidently it is Sri Krishna Janmastami birth of Lord Sri Krishna.

Also  coincidently today is our forum member Nagraj garu birthday.Wish you many happy returns of the day sir.



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Re: Sep1st 2010 Sri krishna Janmastami + Guru Ramana Came to Arunachala
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2010, 12:51:24 PM »
Some great photos from Sri Krishna Mutt,Udipi.

http://udupishiroormutt.in/shiroor/?p=4730

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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2010, 01:03:43 PM »
Krishna: History or Myth

A unique documentary which proves the existence of Krishna and shows the scientific proof of Mahabharata with exact year of Kurukshetra war.

http://vimeo.com/14466776

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 03:08:06 PM »


Dear prasanth,

First:-  Nagaraj, I wish you many happy returns of the day.

Regarding Arunai Vijayam Day, that falls on 1st September 2010,
this year, it coincides with Gokulashtami.  But during Bhagavan
Ramana's advent, the Gokulashtami was observed one day before,
on 31st August 1896.  On this day, Muthukrishna Bhagavatar's sister
was preparing delicacies for the festival and Bhagavan after taking food from that illustrious lady, desired to pawn his ear stud with
Bhagavatar.  Bhagavatar found that the ear studs would cost more
than Rs 30/- and he offered about Rs 3 or so.  Then the lady gave
Him a packet of sweets and murukkus even before the naivedyam
was offered to Krishna.  Such was her great fortune to give food
to the living Krishna even before the god could be offered.  Bhagavan Ramana spent some money for His further travel to Tiruvannamalai.
After return from Arunachaleswara Temple, Bhagavan threw away the sweet packets, remaining money, and the part of dhoti that had remained after tearing off a codpiece from it!  I think that was the
last occasion when He handled money and was wearing dhoti.

Muthukrishna Bhagavatar and his sister met Bhagavan Ramana in
Virupaksha Cave after some years.
 


Arunachala Siva.
   

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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2010, 04:00:57 PM »
Thanks all for your wishes... it's a pleasant surprise actually!

I had visited Kerala along with my family. I had very good darshan of Guruvayoor in Koupinam and now, I feel blessed after looking at the pictures of Udupi Krishna as well. Wonderful, thanks for the link Prashant!

All members who have not visited a Kerala Temple, really you are missing something! Please try and make it to have darshan of God in Kerala. Splendid. Absolutely Splendid. No words to describe. I have visited temples in Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra, Andhra. But the temples in Kerala is very unique and I guess no changes have been made since the days of yore. It is as it is unlike most of our places. Each temple is beyond experience.

I visited Kalady, the birth place of Adi Shankaracharya. This is a unique place. If at all there is any place other than Ramanashramam (that quietness, stillness, Peace) it is only this place. This place had more vibrations than the Maths itself.
It was the agraharam where Adi Shankrara grew and there is one Krishna temple which is Kula Deivam of Adi Shankara. Absolutely Divine! Behind this there is the famous Purna River which Adi Shankara got it closer to his mother who found it difficult to walk a long distance for her daily bath.

We then visited Chottanikara Bhagavati Amman temple. and just behind there is Bhadra Kali temple. Absolutely ancient. Felt as though I traveled backwards to some 7th or 8th Century!

Then we went to Guruvayoor and about 1 minute darshan of Krishna in Koupinam stilled me, transfixed! I was not bothered to take the prasad or theertham etc... the darshan was more than enough! Krishna is really there! its definitely not just a stone vigraham. I remembered Bhagavan Ramana. Small Krishna reminded me of our very beloved Bhagavan in Koupinam. He is Him! Also it occurred to me that not only Murugan wears Koupinam(from Saivaite) but also Krishna too (for Vaishavites)

We then made it to Vadakkunnathan Temple, this is the temple where Shivaguru is said to have prayed and observed Vratham along with Aaryamaba which led to the birth of Adi Shankara.

This is also the temple, where Adi shankaracharya is said to have been fed with the divine milk (just like Jnana Sambandhar) and composed Soundarya Lahiri at the age of about 3 or 4 or 5 (don't know)

This is one of the biggest temples in south India. This place also troubled me a lot from being normal. They had captured me too much.

Actually I have not been able to still come out of the impact that I had in this visit. Please excuse my very vague description of my travel. Very happy to share it with you all.

Other states and temples also have great temples, but most Kerala temples don't make much noise like others. They are silent, the temple practices are not at all compromised. The traditions are at its best. You will really travel back wards to few hundred years back.

Salutations to Sri Ramana
॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2010, 04:44:10 PM »


Dear Nagaraj,

I thank you for taking us all to the Kerala Temples, particularly
Guruvayoor Temple and Vadakkunathan Temple.  I have visited
several years back Guruvayoor, when I was in Coimbatore.  My
wife is a great Krishna Bhaktai and she reads Narayaneeyam every
day in her bhajan classes.  I read Narayaneeyam for some months
at the rate of about 10 dasakams everyday.  One important fact is
that there is only advaitam in Kerala and Melpatthur Bhattadri composed Narayaneeyam on the basis of advaitic teachings only.

Vadakku Nathan Temple is one where Sivaguru and Aryambika prayed
to Siva and wanted a male child.  It appears, a divine light went into her womb and Sri Sankara was born from an immaculate conception.

Sri Sankara's life is a wondrous story.  At the age of 8 when he went
to Govinda Bhagavad Pada, and when the guru asked him 'Who are
you?' he answered him in a typical Ramana style, with his famous
Dasa Sloki.  Somewhat a similar reply was given to him, later by
Hastamalaka.

Brahmasri Nochur Venkataraman says:  Whether you understand or not, please read Dasa Sloki and Naan Yaar everyday!

Thank you for your graphic writings on Kerala Temple.  In Kerala,
they call the temples as Kottaram.  The structures are kept as they
were with some minor repairs.  There are no high towers for temples.

Bilvamangala and Ezhutachhan are other two great personalities of
Kerala. The first one wrote Sri Krishna Karnamrutam and the second
one is the author of Ramayanam in Malayalam.  The communists who are ruling for years the state of Kerala, never interfere with temples.



Arunachala Siva.   

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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 04:52:57 PM »
Thanks a lot Nagraj garu for your description of few kerala temples you visited.

Subramanian garu thanks for your additional information.

Your description of your visit is making me also to visit these great ancient temples.

May guru bhagavan ramana bless me and fulfill my desire.

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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2010, 07:30:02 PM »

Dear Nagaraj, prasanth,

There is a story relating to Bhattadri and Ezhuthacchan.  While the
former was a brahmin, erudite in Sankskrit and got cured of his
paralysis with Narayaneeyam, he still had pride as a brahmin.  Once
Ezhutthacchan came to the temple and was allowed to stand only
at the outer portal and prey, he being a non brahmin.  But his love
for Narayana is purely for love's sake and not for curing any disease.

Bhattadri made fun of him when Ezhuthachan pronounced Sri
Vishnu Sahasranamam wrongly.  He said:  O Padmanabho, mara
prabhu and not as O Padmanabho amara prabhu.  Bhattadri made
fun of him and asked him to read correctly.  Both parted and Bhattadri went to his choultry and lied down for sleep.  Suddenly
his paralytic attack got relapsed.  He prayed to Krishna:  Why all this?  Krishna said:  Why did you make fun of that poor ezhava
-down caste?  His devotion is thousand times better than yours!
Now see, I am also mara prabho and not only amara prabho.  There appeared immeditately a vison, where Krishna is surrounded by all
trees showering flowers on him!  Bhattadri became astonished.  He
rushed to the temple next day and then prostrated before Ezhuttachan.  Ezhuttachan is the author of a simple Malayalam book,
"Jnana Paanai"  [The pot of Jnana].

Verse 232 of Guru Vachhaka Kovai:

Those who do not realize that the body is the fundamental disease,
that gives birth to all other diseases will, instead of fearing the disease, actively desire it and will take great pains to perpetuate the
form of the body.  This is like someone who uses well water, pulled up with great effort, only to cultivate weeds.

The diseases, wax and wane till it is completely cured or cause death when there is no waning.  Atma Jnana waxes more and more, without any boundary.  Since liberation, whose form is Atma Jnana, is alone
permanent, it is termed as true Atma Jnana.

Muruganar quotes here a beautiful verse of Tiru Kovaiyar, [Verse 9]:-

It is as if the divine nature
Of the unique Lord of Thillai's Golden Hall,
He who remains unknown
Even to those who have known HIm,
were clearly manifest
in the bosom of this slender-waist one,
whose lips are red like the kovvai fruit.
For though I have embraced her,
each time I embrace her once more,
bliss waxes more and more, fresh as before,
like the loins of her in whose curling tresses
a fragrance lingers.

Tirukovaiyar is a poem of 400 verses, showing the bliss of Siva through male-female union, by Saint Manikkavachagar.  It is
tougher than Tiruvachakam.  Both constitute Book 8 of Saiva Canons.


Arunachala Siva.           
   
 

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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2010, 07:41:39 PM »
Dear I,

A very touching story indeed. I am reminded about Sir Rajagopalachari, who composed the famous song "Kurai ondrum illai marai murthy Kanna". Sri. Rajagopalachari was in distress due to some personal family problems, he came to Tirupathy to blurt all his pains and problems to the Lord and when he stood there, miraculously his glance turned towards the entry door (perhaps this was the leela of Venkateshwara, that he look at the door) He saw an outcaste, who stood outside at considerable distance and praying with great devotion to Perumaal(Temple entry was still practiced then). Tears rolled over Sri Rajagopalachari's eyes and he was so embarrassed about himself, and he composed this song looking at that outcaste and as though that outcaste is singing this great song, who cannot even look at the Lord inside -

kuRai onRum illai maRaimoorthy kaNNA!
kuRai onRum illai kaNNA!
kuRai onRum illai GOvindhA

kaNNukkut theriyaamal niRkinRaai kaNNA
kaNNukkut theriyaamal ninRaalum enakku
kuRai onRum illai maRaimoorthy kaNNA!

vENdiyadhait thandhida vEnkatEsan enRirukka
vEndiyadhu vERonRum enakkillai kaNNA
maNivaNNA, malaiappA! GOvindhA, GovindhA
GovindhA! GovindhA!

Thiraiyinpin niRkinRaai kaNNA! -kaNNA!
Thiraiyinpin niRkinRaai kaNNA!- unnai
maraiyOdum gnAniar mattumE kANbAr - enRaalum
kuRaionRum enakkilai kaNNA! - enRaalum
kuRaionRum enakkilai kaNNA!
kunRin mEl kallaagi miRkinRa varadhA!
kunRin mEl kallaagi miRkinRa varadhA!
kuRai onRum illai maRai moorthy kaNNA!
kuRai onRum illai maRai moorthy kaNNA!
maNivaNNA, malaiappA! GOvindhA, GovindhA
GovindhA! GovindhA! GovindhA! GovindhA!

kalinaaLuk iRangi kallilE iRangi
silaiyaaga kOilil niRkinRaay kEsavA!
yaarum maRukkaadha malai appA!
yaarum maRukkaadha malai appA!- un maarbil
yenRum yezhundharuLum karuNai kadal annai
yenRum irundhida yEdhu kuRai enakku?
yenRum irundhida yEdhu kuRai enakku?

kuRai onRum illai maRai moorthy kaNNA!
kuRai onRum illai maRai moorthy kaNNA!
maNivaNNA, malaiappA! GOvindhA, GovindhA
GovindhA! GovindhA! GovindhA! GovindhA!

Meaning: "I have no grievances at all absolutely, vEdha nayakA! kaNNA! You
are not seen by mt eyes; Even though You are not seen by my naked eyes, I
have no grievances! (implies; I have, because I am not able to see you)

Whatever I wish, You are able to give me, Then, whatelse do I need? (except
You); Hence, I have no grievances; maNivaNNA! malai appA! GovindhA!

You are standing behind the curtain (imples stage; You are a soothra
dhaari); Only vEdic scholars and gnAnis can see You; Even then, I have no
grievances (implies, I have because I am not able to see You);

During these "kali" yugam, You have come and entered and stayed as an archA
form at TirumalA, kEsavA! No one can deny Your Existence, GovindhA!
When the Merciful, Goddess stays in Your chest all the time, why should I
have any "kuRai"? GovindhA!"

Salutations to Sri Ramana
« Last Edit: September 01, 2010, 07:43:31 PM by Nagaraj »
॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2010, 08:38:51 PM »
Dear Nagaraj ji,


Thank you for taking me to Guruvayur on Janmashtami day. And giving the story behind Rajaji's song Kurai onrum illai.

In south due to Anantha rama Dhikshidar people started reading Narayaneeyam. I heard that Dhikshidar also had some
health problems. He started reading Narayaneeyam daily because Bhattathri was cusred his paralysis by Krishna after he wrote Narayaneeyam.  As Dhikshidar started spreading upanyasam on Narayaneeyam, his health problem also was cured. In later age he took sanyasa and remained out side of the house (THINNAI) and passed away. They had samadhi in Sengalipuram.
When people are suffering in death bed, people say, it is better to read "Gajendra Moksham" chapter in Narayaneeyam.

For kerala people it is like veda. In all Guruvayur temple kerala people read, sampoorna narayaneeyam from morning 6 to evening 6.


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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2010, 09:39:20 AM »


Dear ramanaduli,

Yes.  Srimad Narayaneeyam is chanted either at home or in Vishnu
Temples or in Guruvayoor itself either once or for many days, to
get cured from illness.  Both Melpathur Narayana Bhattadri and
Anantarama Dikshitar were chanting Narayaneeyam for curing their
ailments.  The ghee given in Guruvayoor as prasadam is taken as
prasad for getting cured of illnesses. The Kerala type of plantains
and ghee or Nei Appam, a sweet dish made of ghee and dhal are
also offered to Guruvauyurappan as naivedyam.


Arunachala Siva.