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Joey_

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Beyond sat-chit-ananda?
« on: July 18, 2010, 01:02:50 AM »
I remember reading that Bhagavan said that there is something beyond sat-chit-ananda. And He also said:

"The final stage of samadhi has to be reached in which one becomes ananda or one with reality. In this state the duality of enjoyer and enjoyment ceases in the ocean of sat-chit-ananda or the Self."

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Re: Beyond sat-chit-ananda?
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 10:09:18 AM »

Dear Joey,

The Self is Sat, ULLadu in Tamil.  It is the seat of all knowledge.
So it is also Chit [some say Chit is Sakti, the power of the Sat,
the female principle].  Ananda is again the characteristic of the
Sat Vastu, ULLa PoruL.  The three are an separate.  The three
is the One, Sat Chit Ananda.

Jnanis who have attained the Sat, they are ever ebullient and
blissful.  They are knowledgeable without any formal reading
of scriptures.  In fact all the scriptural readings are not the real
knowledge.  Bhagavan Ramana says this in Upadesa Saram,
Verses 23, 26, 27 and 28.

Bhagavan Ramana's 108 Holy Names include:

Om Sat Chitananda Swarupaya Namah:

Arunachala Siva.   

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Re: Beyond sat-chit-ananda?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 10:18:58 AM »

Dear Joey,

See also Letters from Sri Ramanasramam, by Suri Nagamma,
letter dated, 185.1947:



Question:  Brahman is said to be sat-chit-ananda swarupa
[the true nature of being consciousness bliss.]  What does
it mean?

Bhagavan:  Yes. That is so.  That which is, is only Sat.  This
is called Brahman.  The lustre of Sat is Chit and its nature is
Ananda.  They are not different from Sat.  All the three together
are known as Sat Chit Ananda.  It is the same in regard to attributes of the Jiva. Sattvam, Ghoram and Jadam.  Ghoram
means the quality of rajas, and Jadam means the quality of tamas.  Both these are parts of sattvam.  If these two are removed, what remains only is sattvam.  That is he Truth which
is eternal and pure.  Call it Atman, Brahman, Sakti or anything
you like.  If you know that That is yourself, everything is lustrous.  Everything is Ananada. 



Arunachala Siva.       

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Re: Beyond sat-chit-ananda?
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 10:29:29 AM »

Dear Joey,

Padamalai Verse 494 says:

Except in one's imagination [bhavana], there is no attainment
of liberation from bondage in the ultimate state of supreme
truth.

The Power of the Presence, Part III says:

Bhagavan:  All questions relating to mukti [liberation] are inadmissible because mukti means release from bondage,
which implies the present existence of bondage.  There is
no bondage and therefore no mukti either.

Question:  The sastras speak of it and its grades.

Bhagavan:  The sastras are not meant for the wise because they
do not need them.  The ignorant do not want them.  Only the
mumukshus [those aspiring for liberation] look up to the scriptures.
The means that the sastras are neither for wisdom nor for ignorance.

Day by Day dated 22.11.1945:

Bhagavan:  We are all in reality, Sat Chit Ananda.  But we imagine
we are bound and are having all these pains.

Questioner:  Why do we imagine so?  Why does this ignorance or ajnana come to us?

Bhagavan:  Enquire to whom has this ignorance come and you
will find it never came to you and that you have always been
that Sat-Chit-Ananda.  One performs all sorts of penances to become what one already is.  All effort is simply to get rid of this viparita buddhi [unusual understanding], this mistaken impression that one is limited and bound by the woes of samsara.

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Re: Beyond sat-chit-ananda?
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 10:36:48 AM »

Dear Joey,

Padamalai Verse 2144 says:

Instead of merging without thought as That, why do you repeatedly
think, like a mantra, 'I am That' and get fatigued?



David Godman adds here:

Bhagavan distinguished between meditation, which He defined
as meditating or concentrating on an object, and self enquiry,
which is defines as the source of the I-thought, or abiding as that source.  He would say that thinking about the Self - for example
repeating 'I am Siva' or 'I am Brahman' or 'I am That' - was an
intellectual activity that kept the mind busy instead of taking it
back to its Source.  As He explained in Who am I?:-

Keeping the mind fixed in the Self at all times is called Self-
Enquiry, whereas thinking oneself to be Brahman, which is Sat-
Chit-Ananda [being consciousness bliss], is meditation.  Eventually, all that one has learnt will have to be forgotten.



Arunachala Siva.     

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Re: Beyond sat-chit-ananda?
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 11:28:04 AM »
Bandha Bhranthi,Moksha Bhranthi.
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Re: Beyond sat-chit-ananda?
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2010, 01:26:44 PM »

Dear Dr. Raju,

I love your single line post.


Essentially Bhagavan Ramana says this in ULLadu Narpadu,
Verse 39:

Only so long as one thinks like a mad man 'I am a bound one'
will thoughts of bondage and liberation remain.  But, seeing
oneself, 'Who is this bound one?' the eternally liberated and
ever attained Self alone will exist.  When the thought of bondage
cannot remain, can the thought of liberation still remain?'

Padamalai Verse 610:

Thoughts such as bondage and liberation, which are essentially
non-existent, appear in the state of pramada, [forgetfulness of
the Self].

Padamalai Verse 2205 says:

The origin of the concepts of bondage and liberation is in the
ego, the deception that is the cause of the pairs of opposites.

Verse 2405 says:  It is because the mind, the vain ego, is habituated to the thought of bondage that enthusiastic efforts
to attain liberation arise.


Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Beyond sat-chit-ananda?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2010, 05:45:29 PM »
Sat - Father
Chit - Son
Ananda - Holy Spirit

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Re: Beyond sat-chit-ananda?
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010, 06:48:32 PM »
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Re: Beyond sat-chit-ananda?
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2010, 09:01:57 AM »

Siva (Father)  = Skanda. (Son).

Siva is called five faced Siva and Skanda is called Six faced Siva.
Skanda is really the male child.  He was born from Siva's third
eye, without a female union!  Siva and Skanda both are Consciousness, Paramam.

Arunachala Siva.