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Ramana Maharshi's Gospel: Sadhana and Grace
« on: June 22, 2010, 10:10:51 AM »
Disciple: God is described as manifest and unmanifest. As the former He is said to include the world as a part of His Being. If that is so, we as part of that world should have easily known Him in the manifested form.

Maharshi: Know yourself before you seek to decide about the nature of God and the world.

Disciple: Does knowing myself imply knowing God?

Maharshi: Yes. God is within you.

D: Then what stands in the way of my knowing myself or God?

M: Your wandering mind and perverted ways.

D: I am a weak creature. But why does not the superior power of the Lord within remove the obstacles?

M: Yes, He will if you have the aspiration.

D: Why should he not create the aspiration in me?

M: Then surrender yourself.

D: If I surrender myself, is no prayer to God necessary?

M: Surrender is itself a mighty prayer.

D: But is it not necessary to understand His nature before one surrenders oneself?

M: If you believe that God will do for you all the things that you want Him to do, then surrender yourself to Him. Otherwise let God alone, and know yourself.

(From Maharshi's Gospel, published by Sri Ramanasramam and available for download from http://www.ramana-maharshi.org/ )

Subramanian.R

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Re: Ramana Maharshi's Gospel: Sadhana and Grace
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2010, 10:20:19 AM »

Dear prasanth,

Yes.  Siva asks you to surrender.  But even for that surrender, you
seek his grace, Siva will keep mum.  Start the surrender, make it
mature enough, then the final push will be given by Siva.  Bhagavan
Ramana always referred to the monkey-way and not the cat-way.
He mentions it in Who am I? also.

Arunachala Siva.

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Re: Ramana Maharshi's Gospel: Sadhana and Grace
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 12:32:23 PM »
well said Subramanian garu.