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ramana_maharshi

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Talk 79.

An engineer asked: “The animals seem to conform to their own natural laws in spite of their environment and changes. Whereas man flouts social law and is not bound by any definite system. He seems to be degenerating whereas the animals are steady. Is it not so?”

M.: (After a long time). The Upanishads and scriptures say that human beings are only animals unless they are realised beings. Possibly they are worse also.

Source: TALKS WITH SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI Book

Subramanian.R

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Yes.  We are all animals, more diabolic than the animals.
A tiger pounces on a deer only when it is hungry.  Not otherwise.
Whereas we shall eat some pakoras and vadas even if we are
not hungry and our stomach is full, because it is within our reach!

A realized person is beyond an animal and an ordinary man.
He is the Self, the Spirit, the Being.

Arunachala Siva.

ramana_maharshi

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HaHaHa that's true Subramanian garu.


ramana_maharshi

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well said udai garu.

Swami Vivekananda says,

What is the difference between men and animals? ... "Food and [sleep], procreation of the species, and fear exist in common with the animals.

One is the master of nature, the other the slave of nature. What is nature? The five senses....

Subramanian.R

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1. Bhagavan Ramana did not take any food for 27 days inside Patala
Lingam.  When He was in Virupaksha Cave, He had taken food  (what food, cold rice mixed in water!) only once on a day for about 1 year.

2.  He did not sleep inside Patala Lingam.  He slept for only three
hours, whenever in the previous evening, He went for cirucumambulation. 

3. He was an ati-varnasrami, without wedding and procreation.

So He lived a life beyond animals and men.  He is therefore a
Brahma Jnani and most of us are only in the stage of animals.

Arunachala Siva. 

Nagaraj

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But, I really feel, these days, animals are much better... :)

Infact, we all should learn to love each other like Dog. What compassion and faith does a dog have to its people. We humans are lesser to animals these days...

॥ शांतमात्मनि तिष्ट ॥
Remain quietly in the Self.
~ Vasishta

Subramanian.R

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Yes. Dogs are in a way better.  They are noted for their intense
fidelity towards their Masters.  They can trace their Masters, with
the high sense of smell. Bhagavan Ramana says in Verse
39 of Sri Arunachala Akshara Mana Maalai:

I am worse than a dog.  With what strength, can I trace you and reach you, O Arunachala? 

OR

Am I worse than a dog?  Certainly not.  By my own strength I shall
trace you and reach you, O Arunachala!

(Tr. Prof. K. Swaminathan)

Arunachala Siva.